Did you really expect Sarada to be this buff?

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Why waiting, ok

Yes I’m generalizing based on the fact of them being canon and how each of them connect to the manga/overall plot. You selectively read a lot, I never just referenced one novel but instead more then one.
It needs to be selected because not all novels are canon.

In our previous debate I never considered Boruto filler anime as part of canon story. But I changed my stance over anime after reading and understand many informations and explanation given by people.

To my understanding All Boruto Novels are the adaptation of anime story and not starting as stand alone novel first.




Light Novels

Novels in the and series are officially published short stories either by the author or a third party, with Kishimoto's supervision.


Boruto: Naruto Next Generations

Parts of the Boruto: Naruto Next Generations anime have been been adapted into a novel series titled Boruto: Naruto Next Generations Novel (BORUTO -ボルト- -NARUTO NEXT GENERATIONS- NOVEL, Boruto: Naruto Nekusuto Jenerēshonzu Noberu). The first novel was released on May 2, 2017 and covers episodes 1 to 6. The second novel was released on July 4, a third novel was released on September 4, and a fourth novel in November 2017. The fifth novel was released on January 4, 2018.

So they are clearly in different position compared to Naruto era Novels and Retsudens.


But your questions about the validity of the novels doesn’t reflect you having gathered information about them. Your very much all over the place honestly, you’ve dead ass said that you would accepted Sarada’s novel development but not Sakura’s when both are written in the same pretense.
Please understand my point and line of thinking first Rasta. This is where you always failed. You don't understand my subject, objective and line of thought. I understand you but can't say the same for you.

I accepted Sarada feat in Sasuke Shinden because manga finally addressed it and my acceptance of Anime story.

Only Novel I'm opposed now except the confirmed one.


No.. Sasuke Retsuden takes place during two time periods, after the 4th shinobi war and during The Brouto Generations eras. The book jumps between time periods and you would know that if actually read the novels instead of relying on second hand information.
Already touched and addressed that Retsuden. I see you didn't addressed the whole post hahaha...

It because I've read the Retsuden that's why I know when it happened.


My previous post already mentioned it;
And then we have Retsuden. 2 Novels. Taking place long after the ending of 4th Shinobi World war. The strange one's Sasuke Retsuden.

SASUKE RETSUDEN
Why? It because it all happened in Boruto era. Sarada was already born at that time(Iruka watched over her) which means Boruto also. The strange part is when the story told us that Naruto get an illness that not even Kurama can cured. But there is no where in Boruto manga they talked about this illness. Like it never existed at all. And this is the same Novel that talked about Sakura's new sensory ability lol, chapter 3.

I just read until 7 chapters of that novel. Nothing interesting. Just a journey to find a cure of illness that feels like a fanfiction.

How’s that strange?
Because manga never talked about it even a simple flashback or simple body of statement that talking about Naruto's past illness in the Novel. I guess Naruto suffered this illness before Momoshiki arc

An example of simple conversation that you can have in the manga talking about this illness and at the same time inform the reader.

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Naruto:"Thanks again Sasuke for finding the cure of my illness that time"

Sasuke:"It's not a big deal. You're my best friend afterall"

~~~~~

Of course you can be more dramatic than that. But the idea here, this simple conversation is enough to canonized Sasuke Retsuden.

No more excuses.

Do you have imagination Rasta?

Naruto’s illness not being a topic on the manga because it has to reason to be referenced doesn’t mean it’s not cannon. The Boruto manga doesn’t have to squeeze entire cononized events into 40 picture panels for them to be actuality.
READ ABOVE POST YOUNGLING.


How can I say that? Because they were both written by the same an author who’s work was approved by Kishi just as the previous novels. That’s the suggestion your looking for and you know Sasuke Retsuden is possibly being animated right?

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What’s going to be your excuse then? Lol
And rn Kodachi is in charge of writing Boruto m8. Don't be dumb. Kishimoto was focusing on S8. Novel canonicity to manga + anime story is in the hand of Kodachi.

Yeah I'M waiting for the Retsuden to be animated or addressed in manga first, whatever is first. Until then its non canon. Simple

If manga addressed it or Anime animated the Novel that's my entire point.

The problem is, you don't understand me.

I can't say that Ferrari car in the showroom is yours when you not yet buying it. Until you buy the car.


Because the novel in which it takes place is conon.. are you serious right now? Or just blowing hot air? Sasuke teaching Sarada Katon in the novel is cannon; right? Why is that conon and not Sakura’s novel not?
Because Sakura's novel is yet to establish any connection with Boruto manga or Anime. One stayed in the blank period, not moving forward. The other one technically all about her feat stuck inside not yet canon Sasuke Retsuden.

The novel is not an adaptation of Naruto manga story in between the story progression like Boruto Novels. Its all happened after the main story has ended. Blank period is technically is like a great fanfiction section. Made matter worse there's no follow up by Boruto: the next generation. Most of the Novels were left standing alone. Not part of continued story.



No your not being ration or logical.. you just said that you’ll count Sarada’s novel feats but not Sakura’s when both belong to the same series and approved identically.
You sure need to work your brain. Less putting non sense words.

It came from the established fictional series but the medium of writing is not. Manga, novel. Coming from same series not mean much when there's no real connection between the two story from two different medium of writing. Do you already forgot that Naruto entire story is not a planned out story like OP for example. A disconnected story will exist.

There's couple of points from Sakura's hiden that can be use to establish the connection with Boruto storyline;

1) Sasuke imposter(Kaido)
2) Kaido

The manga idea is that Sakura tells Sasuke the brief story how she confronted with Sasuke imposter(Kido) and defeat him and Sasuke compliment her. If not in the manga, do it in anime.

Stop embarrassing yourself. The manga or anime isn’t aware of the novels story telling?

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ALL OF THOSE THINGS IN THE SERIES OF NOVELS HAVE BEEN CONTINGENT WITH THE ANIME.. SO YES, THE ANIME IS AWARE OF THE NOVELS PLOT! ,
As I said before I have started to accept anime as Canon. So why I should feel embarrass. Lol

And your examples here are mostly coming from Boruto era Novels hahaha...


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This is cherry picking.

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But what’s more laughable is how your contradicting yourself and trying to walk back the things you said before lol.. the novels weren’t canon remember?

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But their canon now just for Sarada right?
That was before, in that thread but not today, in this thread.

You couldn't say I'm contradicting myself when I already accepting anime canonity.

In our previous debate I'm still not open to the idea of canon Boruto Anime story.

The connection isn’t lost, you would know that if you read the novels or at least knew what your talking about.
I know what I'm talking about. Sakura hiden and Sasuke Retsuden are not yet canon. Majority of blank period Novels.


Your inability to comprehend the pretext of the novels and validate the novels connected CONSISTENCIES to the manga/anime YOURSELF is what doesn’t make sense. I just gave you over 5 examples above...
All this just a body of Words that had no meaning.
 
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Kishi supervising the novels and approving their plots/release is enough.

/thread.
KISHIMOTO approved or anything is not valid enough.

Tbh this the only thing you used to support yourself in this debate. Because I've shredded every of your points.

Action speaks louder than words.

Action = the Novel and how the Novel would fit well inside the whole story. Which many doesn't fit at all

Words = Kishimoto approval and anything else.


Yes lifting, CES can allow to lift greater mass as Sakura did against Kido in a canon novel.
Non canon feat from non canon novel.


Irrelevant, go explain the various types of strength to someone who doesn’t already know what they are. You aren’t informing me or staying anything I don’t already know, you just like typing endlessly.
You're that someone who doesn't understand anything. Sakura never lift just striking so far.


Nope, she has lifting feats.. go read the novel.
She hasn't. Sakura hiden is non canon.



You tell me.. I never said that LMAO, however the same way Tsunade/Sakura increase their striking power is the same way they increase their ability to lift.

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But for the record... where does it say that Sakura can only enhance punches and only her punches? I swear the databook said strength and never indicated her CES was limited to striking power... I swear it says Sakura has Superhuman strength period.
That Databook mostly used Tsunade for the example, not Sakura. How desperate you can get lol. Yes so far the "strength" for Sakura part always translated to striking. I can show you the canon pictures.

Tsunade is not Sakura. Tsunade's feat is not Sakura's feat. Tsunade is Senju while Sakura is nameless haruno lol.



Yikes! You are embarrassing yourself dude!

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It would seem Tsunade’s “outrageous strength” completely ignores the laws of nature!! The challenge to common sense that is her power is due in no small part to her artful chakra control and fine-tuning. To give things a name, by instantly collecting chakra into her fist and fingers, she obtains a power of destruction bodily strength alone cannot achieve.

-One finger, and Naruto cannot close in on her. And she can handle Gamabunta’s huge dosu** with absurd ease…?!

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-Here’s to a painful and bitter end! Such is Tsunade-hime’s insane, “Legendary”, power!!

This all goes back to chakra control. So yes Sakura can lift huge object such as Gambunta’s sword aswell since she can enhance her strength also.
How I'm embarrassing myself when the one who looks very embarrassing rn is you coming from your sheer desperation to give Sakura a non existence feat to her. Lol.

We play by feat and not imagination.


(1) novels were proven to be cannon, not just in Sarada’s case; as you’ve cherry picked before.

(2) The boruto manga doesn’t have to show a particular technique or feat for it to be true.

(3) Why would Kido be in databook 1? Kido’s information doesn’t need to be in the databook to confirm legitimacy when he’s in canon novel.
(1) Not all

(2) It should be showed. Not the other way around unless it all happened in the same platform(manga/anime)

(3)There are more than 1 Databook out there and Kishimoto can write the new one if he really think that Novel character is real character aka canon chakra. Apparently he's not thinking the new character in the Novel is real character.




Nope! You have no facts or credible sources that says one novel that was approved & supervised by Kishi counts more then the others, you don’t get to pick and choose what’s canon and what’s not to suit your argument.
Yes I still can.

Each novel was approved by Kishi, illustrated by Kishi and supervised by Kishi. Now find me the difference between each of those things in the series of novels.. I’ll wait.
BUT NOT WRITE BY KISHIMOTO. THAT ONE DIFFERENCE.

NOT CONNECTED WITH ONE STORYLINE TO THE NEXT STORYLINE AT ALL. MORE IMPORTANTLY THE NEXT STORYLINE. EXAMPLE: NARUTO HIDEN, SHINDEN(2015) AND RETSUDENS. DIFFERENCE NO. 2

KISHIMOTO APPROVAL MEAN NOTHING

/THREAD.



I did a dozen times over, you couldn’t discredit or disprove Kishi’s given validity of the novels so you went on a tangent and ran away because you were wrong.
Again Kishimoto approval means nothing. Manga, Novel, anime speak for itself. Kishimoto approval won't erase the inconsistency if it there. When inconsistency happened inside other medium that trying to fit inside main storyline the canon continuity cant be establish.

In this case Kishimoto approval means zero shit.


Nope they’re all canon, please provide the facts that says one is canon and one is not. And when I say proof, I mean an official publicized statement that’s says one is canon and the other is not.
THE OFFICIAL PROOF IS MANGA OR ANIME. THAT'S IT.

ACTION = MANGA

WORD = STATEMENT

ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS.

BLANK PERIOD IS EQUAL TO FANFICTION

Not your opinions or interpretations, but facts that can be found in places like the prologue of the novels, interviews or promotional material.
Author never used word non canon or canon. But Boruto manga/anime do the talking which Novel will be part of canon continuity which not yet. Like Boruto Novels for example it has been established that the Novels are the adaptation of ongoing Boruto Anime(Canon). Then I learned about Naruto Shinden(2018). Boruto Anime has come up with anime adaptation of those Novels.

Can't say the same for Hiden, Shinden(2015) and Retsudens.

It's not coming from my interpretation but from established body(anime/manga)


FOR THE LAST TIME, THE BORUTO ANIME OR THE MANGA DOES NOT HAVE TO REGURGITATE AN EVENT THAT HAPPENED IN ORDER FOR THAT EVENT TO BE CANON.

YOU DON’T GET TO CHOOSE WHATS CANON OR NOT; YOUR PERSONALIZED STANDARD OR METRIC OF ACCEPTING THE NOVELS (FACTS) DOESNT MAKE ANYTHING LESS-CANON.
SOMETHING CANT HAPPENED ONLY ONCE AND THEN BEING FORGOTTEN FOR THE REST OF THE STORY. WE'RE TALKING NOT JUST ABOUT FICTIONAL STORY BUT HOW THE STORY IS PRESENTED. MANGA/ANIME/NOVEL.

ITS EASY IF THE FEAT WAS COMING FROM A SINGLE SOURCE, MANGA FOR EXAMPLE. LIKE IZANAMI, IT APPEARED ONLY ONCE IN THE MANGA BUT BECAUSE IT HAPPENED INSIDE THE SAME SOURCE IT AUTOMATICALLY BE A CANON TECHNIQUE. DIFFERENT WITH SAKURA'S LIFTING FEAT OR OTHER SINGLE OCCASION FEAT IN THE NOVEL. AND YOU SHOULD KNOW THE REASON.

TO CANONIZED FICTIONAL FEAT FROM A DIFFERENT SOURCE . YOU NEED TO HAVE THAT FEAT BEING PERFORMED INSIDE THE OTHER SOURCE ALSO.

Doesn’t matter, they both come from the same novel which means the novels plot is directly cannon.. do you honestly expect the manga to squeeze in over 500 pages worth of novel story telling into 40 panels/pages?
I NEVER KNOW YOU'RE THIS SHALLOW AND LESS IMAGINATIVE.

What’s most intricate to the plot is selected out of the novel to advance the story, that doesn’t mean invalidate everything else.
When one aspect/content from Novel get addressed by Manga be it to move plot forward or not it automatically canonized the whole Novel.


You don’t have too on order for it to be canon, the feat doesn’t have to be regurgitated or duplicated in another form of literature to be true when the novel it comes from is canon it’s self.
You still need to perform the same feat inside the main source to canonized the feat.


No not unfortunate at all, it was a great read. Unlike your unrealistic standard/expectation, I don’t expected the manga or anime to capture/illustrate every word in the novel down to the letter.

Lol your prerequisite is laughable.
It not suprise to hear that. You're Sakura fan afterall.


Lmao at least you’ve admitted to trolling but you’ve made yourself look even crazier by saying this. It only goes to prove that your bias and willing to be ignorant of the facts when it comes to Sakura. Do you know how crazy you sound? ”I’ll accept Sarada’s novel feats but I won’t accepted Sakura’s even though I’ve said in the past the novels feats in general and want canon”..
Sure you're one of the most laughable member here.


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You’ve lost the argument already guy.. I understand every single invalid point you’ve made, it’s why I’m so easily countering everything your posting.

IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE ILLUSTRATED IN THE ANIME OR MANGA FOR IT TO HAVE HAPPEN IN THE CANON SPECTRUM.
LOL TO SUM UP IN A SIMPLE WORDS ALL YOUR EFFORTS IN COUNTERING ME IN THIS DEBATE.

YOUR ONLY SUPPORTING STICK

"KISHIMOTO APPROVAL"

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KISHIMOTO approved or anything is not valid enough.

Tbh this the only thing you used to support yourself in this debate. Because I've shredded every of your points.

Action speaks louder than words.

Action = the Novel and how the Novel would fit well inside the whole story. Which many doesn't fit at all

Words = Kishimoto approval and anything else.




Non canon feat from non canon novel.




You're that someone who doesn't understand anything. Sakura never lift just striking so far.




She hasn't. Sakura hiden is non canon.





That Databook mostly used Tsunade for the example, not Sakura. How desperate you can get lol. Yes so far the "strength" for Sakura part always translated to striking. I can show you the canon pictures.

Tsunade is not Sakura. Tsunade's feat is not Sakura's feat. Tsunade is Senju while Sakura is nameless haruno lol.





How I'm embarrassing myself when the one who looks very embarrassing rn is you coming from your sheer desperation to give Sakura a non existence feat to her. Lol.

We play by feat and not imagination.




(1) Not all

(2) It should be showed. Not the other way around unless it all happened in the same platform(manga/anime)

(3)There are more than 1 Databook out there and Kishimoto can write the new one if he really think that Novel character is real character aka canon chakra. Apparently he's not thinking the new character in the Novel is real character.






Yes I still can.



BUT NOT WRITE BY KISHIMOTO. THAT ONE DIFFERENCE.

NOT CONNECTED WITH ONE STORYLINE TO THE NEXT STORYLINE AT ALL. MORE IMPORTANTLY THE NEXT STORYLINE. EXAMPLE: NARUTO HIDEN, SHINDEN(2015) AND RETSUDENS. DIFFERENCE NO. 2

KISHIMOTO APPROVAL MEAN NOTHING

/THREAD.





Again Kishimoto approval means nothing. Manga, Novel, anime speak for itself. Kishimoto approval won't erase the inconsistency if it there. When inconsistency happened inside other medium that trying to fit inside main storyline the canon continuity cant be establish.

In this case Kishimoto approval means zero shit.




THE OFFICIAL PROOF IS MANGA OR ANIME. THAT'S IT.

ACTION = MANGA

WORD = STATEMENT

ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS.

BLANK PERIOD IS EQUAL TO FANFICTION



Author never used word non canon or canon. But Boruto manga/anime do the talking which Novel will be part of canon continuity which not yet. Like Boruto Novels for example it has been established that the Novels are the adaptation of ongoing Boruto Anime(Canon). Then I learned about Naruto Shinden(2018). Boruto Anime has come up with anime adaptation of those Novels.

Can't say the same for Hiden, Shinden(2015) and Retsudens.

It's not coming from my interpretation but from established body(anime/manga)




SOMETHING CANT HAPPENED ONLY ONCE AND THEN BEING FORGOTTEN FOR THE REST OF THE STORY. WE'RE TALKING NOT JUST ABOUT FICTIONAL STORY BUT HOW THE STORY IS PRESENTED. MANGA/ANIME/NOVEL.

ITS EASY IF THE FEAT WAS COMING FROM A SINGLE SOURCE, MANGA FOR EXAMPLE. LIKE IZANAMI, IT APPEARED ONLY ONCE IN THE MANGA BUT BECAUSE IT HAPPENED INSIDE THE SAME SOURCE IT AUTOMATICALLY BE A CANON TECHNIQUE. DIFFERENT WITH SAKURA'S LIFTING FEAT OR OTHER SINGLE OCCASION FEAT IN THE NOVEL. AND YOU SHOULD KNOW THE REASON.

TO CANONIZED FICTIONAL FEAT FROM A DIFFERENT SOURCE . YOU NEED TO HAVE THAT FEAT BEING PERFORMED INSIDE THE OTHER SOURCE ALSO.



I NEVER KNOW YOU'RE THIS SHALLOW AND LESS IMAGINATIVE.



When one aspect/content from Novel get addressed by Manga be it to move plot forward or not it automatically canonized the whole Novel.




You still need to perform the same feat inside the main source to canonized the feat.



It not suprise to hear that. You're Sakura fan afterall.



Sure you're one of the most laughable member here.


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LOL TO SUM UP IN A SIMPLE WORDS ALL YOUR EFFORTS IN COUNTERING ME IN THIS DEBATE.

YOUR ONLY SUPPORTING STICK

"KISHIMOTO APPROVAL"

:sick::sick::sick::sick::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::lmao::lmao:
And Kishimoto is the one making money off this shit so zip it

He sold the copyrights deemed Canon
 

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"You" are "obviously" a "minor"

Sakura fans have freedom of speech and the free will to say whatever I don't care if they lie about living in India it works that way
"You" are "obviously" a "kid"

I like your game

Of course they have freedom of speech just like everyone here. I don't know what is your point. But you can't say the desperation doesn't exist. And I also have my own freedom. Freedom to oppose. You don't have right to stop me
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And this is the first time someone told me to relax. I've debate seriously like this before, full of TLDR posts with other members like Animegoin, Lukecetion and many people before them on various issues or topics be it about Naruto or religion but no one gives a fuk told me to relax/stop.
 
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"You" are "obviously" a "kid"

I like your game

Of course they have freedom of speech just like everyone here. I don't know what is your point. But you can't say the desperation doesn't exist. And I also have my own freedom. Freedom to oppose. You don't have right to stop me
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And this is the first time someone told me to relax. I've debate seriously like this before, full of TLDR posts with other members like Animegoin, Lukecetion and many people before them on various issues or topics be it about Naruto or religion but no one gives a fuk told me to relax/stop.
Then do it in style
 

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Why waiting, ok

It needs to be selected because not all novels are canon.
Every novel that was supervised and approved by Kishimoto is canon, the prerequisite to a novel being canon is Kishimoto’s involvement. No where in these novels can you find a disclaimer that establishes what your implying but let’s get specific.. the two novels I’ve referenced or the focus of what I’m saying is canon.
Show me the factual written/illustrated proof that defenerates what’s canon and what’s not out the novels. Not your opinion, your subjective rambling or how you think the novels should be weaved into the anime or manga.

In our previous debate I never considered Boruto filler anime as part of canon story.
I never accused you of that.

To my understanding All Boruto Novels are the adaptation of anime story and not starting as stand alone novel first.
I never said the boruto novels were stand alone projects, that would be moronic for me to say when I’ve said word for word that the boruto novels tied into the plot.




Light Novels

Novels in the and series are officially published short stories either by the author or a third party, with Kishimoto's supervision.


Boruto: Naruto Next Generations
Parts of the Boruto: Naruto Next Generations anime have been been adapted into a novel series titled Boruto: Naruto Next Generations Novel (BORUTO -ボルト- -NARUTO NEXT GENERATIONS- NOVEL, Boruto: Naruto Nekusuto Jenerēshonzu Noberu). The first novel was released on May 2, 2017 and covers episodes 1 to 6. The second novel was released on July 4, a third novel was released on September 4, and a fourth novel in November 2017. The fifth novel was released on January 4, 2018.[/SPOILER]

So they are clearly in different position compared to Naruto era Novels and Retsudens.
No they are not, they are in the same position.. each novel was created, approved and released all alike.


Please understand my point and line of thinking first Rasta. This is where you always failed. You don't understand my subject, objective and line of thought. I understand you but can't say the same for you.
I understand what your saying, I’m saying it’s wrong and you’ve failed each time to rebut facts.

The subject: Novels being canon

Objective: Proving that they are

Your line of thought: Sarada’s novel feats count but Sakura’s does not because they are not in the boruto manga.

Your failing to comprehend and understand me because if you did, you wouldn’t be replying back.

I accepted Sarada feat in Sasuke Shinden because manga finally addressed it and my acceptance of Anime story.
Doesn’t matter, you don’t get to set the prerequisite on what’s acceptable or not. The novels are canon and the things that happen in them do not have to be animated for them to be factual because the already are without the Boruto anime referencing them.


Already touched and addressed that Retsuden. I see you didn't addressed the whole post hahaha...
You addressed them incorrectly haha haha but I addressed the facts correctly. Lol

I just read until 7 chapters of that novel. Nothing interesting. Just a journey to find a cure of illness that feels like a fanfiction.
Which is why your not qualified to debate the substance of the novels being canon because you don’t know for yourself. All you can rely on is 2nd hand information that you take out of context to make a point that you don’t have.

How the read feels to you is irrelevant.


Because manga never talked about it even a simple flashback or simple body of statement that talking about Naruto's past illness in the Novel. I guess Naruto suffered this illness before Momoshiki arc
AGAIN!!

Just because the manga has not brought up or touched on an event doesn’t mean the event didn’t happen or isn’t canon. The boruto manga hasn’t talked about a lot of things but those things still happened.


An example of simple conversation that you can have in the manga talking about this illness and at the same time inform the reader.
Again, it appearing in the manga or anime isn’t not the prerequisite of proving it happened. Your preferred way or suggestion of how the novels should be translated into the manga/anime is a criticism of the writing not the facts.



Naruto:"Thanks again Sasuke for finding the cure of my illness that time"

Sasuke:"It's not a big deal. You're my best friend afterall"

~~~~~

Of course you can be more dramatic than that. But the idea here, this simple conversation is enough to canonized Sasuke Retsuden.
Again, how you think the manga should be written is irrelevant to me and this discussion. What you want see or the method of writing you’d prefer has nothing to do with the novels not being canon.

These are suggestions you should take up with the author, send him your criticism and not me.

Do you have imagination Rasta?
Did you read the novels?




And rn Kodachi is in charge of writing Boruto m8. Don't be dumb. Kishimoto was focusing on S8. Novel canonicity to manga + anime story is in the hand of Kodachi.
Your done here!!!

Who said Kodachi wasn’t gripping the pin for boruto? I think what’s being said is that the material in the anime/manga are mentioning are/were supervised by Kishimoto, you don’t be dumb kid. Are you playing or nah? lol

Yeah I'M waiting for the Retsuden to be animated
I can’t wait to see how salty you are when that happens. Would love to see you moonwalk out of claiming it was never canon.

or addressed in manga first
Nope! It doesn’t have to happen in the manga first for it to be canon. Sarada using Katon was in the novels first just as her 3t upgrade was in the novel first, both were canon.

[QIOTE]whatever is first. Until then its non canon. Simple
Nope, your metric or preferable method of the story telling is not the prerequisite for anything to be factual. You should get over yourself honestly, what you think or prefer doesn’t dictate facts.


If manga addressed it or Anime animated the Novel that's my entire point.
And your entire point isn’t flawed, the anime/manga doesn’t have to address an event verbatim in order for it to be canon.

The problem is, you don't understand me.
No the problem is your discrediting actuality based on things that don’t involve facts but instead your criticism of the sequence of events in the novels and how their translated into the manga/anime.

I can't say that Ferrari car in the showroom is yours when you not yet buying it. Until you buy the car.
Bad analogy but watch me reverse it.. you can’t say that the Ferrari in the showroom isn’t an actual Ferrari just because you never drove it. ————->>>>>>You can’t say canon facts are not facts just because you don’t like how the appear or their lack of appearance where you prefer them.

Because Sakura's novel is yet to establish any connection with Boruto manga or Anime.
That doesn’t matter! Once again, the event or feat does not have to happen in the boruto manga for it to be canon. Sakura’s novel took place almost 20+ years before the boruto era (anime/novel), why would it would it be animated or conjoined into Borutos focus? Is the plot suppose to randomly go back in time?

One stayed in the blank period, not moving forward.
Doesn’t matter.

The time in which it takes place isn’t a requirement for it being canon.

The novel is not an adaptation of Naruto manga story in between the story progression like Boruto Novels.
No the novel is a continuation of the naruto manga, the boruto novels particularly in fact adaptations of the the boruto manga/anime.

Its all happened after the main story has ended. Blank period is technically is like a great fanfiction section.
It doesn’t matter if it happened in the blank era, nothing suggest that the novels have no validity because of the time it took place. These novel your calling fan fiction WERE APPROVED BY KISHIMOTO HIMSELF AFTER BEING COMPLETED UNDER HIS SUPERVISION.

Kishimotos direct involvement is fan fiction how? He guides the the development of these novels first hand. Hahahah...

It came from the established fictional series but the medium of writing is not. Manga, novel. Coming from same series not mean much when there's no real connection between the two story from two different medium of writing.
You just blowing hot air at this point...

THEY COMW FROM THE SAME WRITING MEDIUM, HOW YOU MIGHT SAY? BECAUSE THEY EACH WERE SUPERVISED AND APPROVED BY THE ORIGINAL AUTHOR OF THE STORY.

YOU ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE GUY; twisted up like a pretzel. The NOVELS, ANIME & MANGA are all canon. Their different classifications or implements doesn’t make one less then the other because their all canon just the same.

There's couple of points from Sakura's hiden that can be use to establish the connection with Boruto storyline;

1) Sasuke imposter(Kaido)
2) Kaido

The manga idea is that Sakura tells Sasuke the brief story how she confronted with Sasuke imposter(Kido) and defeat him and Sasuke compliment her. If not in the manga, do it in anime.
HOW YOU WOULD WRITE THE MANGA IS IRRELEVANT AND HAS ZERO TO DO WITH THE VALIDITY OF ANYTHING CANON.
THIS IS SIMPLY HOW YOU WOULD LIKE THE STORY TOLD AND ITS A CRITICISM YOU SHOULD TAKE UP WITH THE AUTHOR.
YOUR VIEW DOWSNT EQUATE TO SOMETHING BEING FACTUAL OR NOT POINT, BLANK, PERIOD.


As I said before I have started to accept anime as Canon. So why I should feel embarrass. Lol
Because the novels are canon too not matter how hard your mental gymnastics gets. Lol

And your examples here are mostly coming from Boruto era Novels hahaha...
But don’t the boruto novels prove a connection to the confirmed canon anime? You said nothing consistently connects them and I gave you 5 facts that prove the opposite.

You lost dude!! Say this has no connection to the canon anime please so I can get a good laugh. Hahaha

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In our previous debate I'm still not open to the idea of canon Boruto Anime story.
You being open to accepting facts doesn’t make anything more or less canon. Your presences or ideas are irrelevant to you disproving anything is canon, your opinion means nothing to facts.
 

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KISHIMOTO approved or anything is not valid enough.
Yes it is!! His approval and SUPERVISION means that the story is in conjunction with his own work. He’s monitoring the writing about the characters her created and is approving their betrayal. Kishi’s approval & supervision means a lot but mostly their cannon. You have no counter

Tbh this the only thing you used to support yourself in this debate. Because I've shredded every of your points.
Your delusional.. you have no points, I’ve countered them all with actual facts, all your posting is your opinion about portrayals and how you don’t agree with the writing. No actual counters just that..

Action speaks louder than words.

Action = the Novel and how the Novel would fit well inside the whole story. Which many doesn't fit at all
The novels are full of actions!

And those actions are canon

Words = Kishimoto approval and anything else.
Words that are facts are all I need.


Non canon feat from non canon novel.
Any feat in the novel is canon because the novels are canon themselves according to Kishi.




You're that someone who doesn't understand anything. Sakura never lift just striking so far.
Yes she did life things, go read her novel and then go back to the databook and read how CES allows you to lift greater mass, Sakura is listed as a user under the translation.


She hasn't. Sakura hiden is non canon.
Yes it is. Whether you want to accept that or not they are.

[QOUTE]That Databook mostly used Tsunade for the example, not Sakura. How desperate you can get lol.[/QUOTE]

And? It doesn’t matter is the databook is using Tsunade as it example because the the technique is used by both characters. The data books explanation of mystical palm has no mention of Tsunade but she can use it right?

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So it would be desperate to say Tsunade can use the medical technique the say was Kabuto is doing? Your the only one desperate, Sakura is listed as a user of CES so the mechanics of CES apply to her as well. Hahahah..

Yes so far the "strength" for Sakura part always translated to striking. I can show you the canon pictures.
No, Sakura has only demonstrated the amplification of her punches. The databook/manga says CES does more then that. Sakura has been credited in the databook (which is life canon) as a proctor of CES entire potential. Nothing stipulates her word for word or factually.


Tsunade is not Sakura. Tsunade's feat is not Sakura's feat. Tsunade is Senju while Sakura is nameless haruno lol.
Sakura has all of Tsunades techniques or can use all of her techniques, just as she can. Being a Senju has nothing to do with anything here, she doesn’t have to come from a clan to be her discipleZ

Lol your trolling!!!


How I'm embarrassing myself when the one who looks very embarrassing rn is you coming from your sheer desperation to give Sakura a non existence feat to her. Lol.
What sheer desperation? SAKURA CAN USE CES THE SAME WAY TSUNADE CAN CES AND THE DATABOOK SAYS SO. THE FEAT DOESNT HAVE TO BE IN THE MANGA FOR SAKURA TO BE CAPABLE OF USING BECAUSE SHE IS LISTED AS A USER!!!!!!!

Lol trolling. Can Tsunade is chakra staple? Because she never has used it in manga, by your logic she can’t right? It’s not a feat in the manga. Lol

[QOUTE]We play by feat and not imagination.[/QUOTE]

No, capability by databook.

It should be showed.
But it came be confirmed via databook, of the databook says she can do it.

Not the other way around unless it all happened in the same platform(manga/anime)
Nope, the data books are canon.
The data book is a platform attached to both the anime & manga directly, it’s the basis of the explanation of a technique.

There are more than 1 Databook out there and Kishimoto can write the new one if he really think that Novel character is real character aka canon chakra.
Irrelevant!!! The data books are canon, every single one. Lol

Apparently he's not thinking the new character in the Novel is real character.
Irrelevant!!!

The real characters use/technique is still canon.

BUT NOT WRITE BY KISHIMOTO. THAT ONE DIFFERENCE.
The differences are Equal in value.. Kishi supervises then writing just as he supervised his own writing.. Kishi also approves the writing just as he approved his own.

Both include Kishi’s involvement.


KISHIMOTO APPROVAL MEAN NOTHING
His SUPERVISION AND APPROVAL MEANS EVERYTHING! IT MEANS HIS VISION OF THE MATERIAL BEING DEVELOPED IS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE BODY OF WORK.

/THREAD.


Again Kishimoto approval means nothing. Manga, Novel, anime speak for itself. Kishimoto approval won't erase the inconsistency if it there. When inconsistency happened inside other medium that trying to fit inside main storyline the canon continuity cant be establish.
WOMP WOMP!!

Kishimoto’s supervision and approval means the writing is in conjunction with what he would write. Kishimoto’s Major involvement makes it canonZ

In this case Kishimoto approval means zero shit.
You opinion, doesn’t change the fact that he partook in the novels creation. You not liking that factor and have a tantrum like a child doesn’t change that.


THE OFFICIAL PROOF IS MANGA OR ANIME. THAT'S IT.
No that’s not it!! The proof is in the canon development or all things canon which the novel is.

You don’t get to make up your own fact finding metric. Lol

ACTION = MANGA

WORD = STATEMENT

ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS.
Kishi monitoring, supervising, approving are all actions.. lol

BLANK PERIOD IS EQUAL TO FANFICTION
Why? Because you say it is? Lol that’s not how it works.

Naruto & Hinata got married during the blank period, is that fanfiction?

Sakura gave birth to Sarada during the blank period, is that fanfiction?

Sakura/Shikamaru became Jonin during the blank period, is that fanfiction?

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With my education screw everyone y'all take this stuff too seriously
Just accept the facts or leave the thread.
 
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Yes they are that is why Naruto succeeded 😁

But these people get so biased and forget she is supposed to be strong. She was trained by one of the three Sannin, which is a pattern of Team 7. Tsunade is my favorite one of the three, so I expect her to be a really good ninja.

But this new generation, the Boruto fans don't understand she settled down as a mother. That is normal, she blends in perfectly to the story as expected.
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Every novel that was supervised and approved by Kishimoto is canon, the prerequisite to a novel being canon is Kishimoto’s involvement. No where in these novels can you find a disclaimer that establishes what your implying but let’s get specific.. the two novels I’ve referenced or the focus of what I’m saying is canon.
Show me the factual written/illustrated proof that defenerates what’s canon and what’s not out the novels. Not your opinion, your subjective rambling or how you think the novels should be weaved into the anime or manga.
THE PROOF IS THE MANGA OR ANIME ITSELF. UNTIL MANGA OR ANIME ADDRESSED NOVEL'S CONTENT, NON CONFIRMED NOVELS AREN'T CANON. EXAMPLE: SAKURA HIDEN, SASUKE RETSUDEN.

SIMPLE AS THAT

KISHI STATEMENT MEANS NOTHING. LET THE MANGA/ANIME DO THE JOB ON CANONITY APPROVING.

SINCE WHEN SUPERVISED AND APPROVAL MEAN CANON. IT JUST MEAN KISHIMOTO ALLOWED THE STORY TO BE PUBLISH AND NOT BECAUSE TO ESTABLISH CANON STORY. SHOW ME AN EXAMPLE WHERE SOME WORK FROM NOVEL WRITER NOT APPROVED OR DISCARDED BY KISHIMOTO BECAUSE IT'S AGAINST CANON MANGA FACT. I BELIEVE YOU COULDN'T.


I never accused you of that.
Good to know


I never said the boruto novels were stand alone projects, that would be moronic for me to say when I’ve said word for word that the boruto novels tied into the plot.
I never accused you of saying that lol




Nope, your metric or preferable method of the story telling is not the prerequisite for anything to be factual. You should get over yourself honestly, what you think or prefer doesn’t dictate facts.
Says who? Manga community? Every manga author?? Who?

It came from you, a nobody.

so my idea or method still relevant




And your entire point isn’t flawed, the anime/manga doesn’t have to address an event verbatim in order for it to be canon.
FLAWED?? Only applies for you.

And you're using your own idea and not words of consensus to invalidated my method or idea of canon establishment. So you're no different.


We're both applying our own system in this discussion and not any official system. But my system or method is making more sense than yours who said one feat from a different source that only used once is enough to canonized that feat, whether or not it appears in other sources is irrelevant lol

such a bs.



No the problem is your discrediting actuality based on things that don’t involve facts but instead your criticism of the sequence of events in the novels and how their translated into the manga/anime.
And since when human started giving credit to a non factual things Rasta?

Sakura never lift in the manga is the actuality and fact. Her hiden is non canon.

There is no sequence or part of event in hiden novels can be found in Boruto for a simple manga reference. That's my criticism.



Bad analogy but watch me reverse it.. you can’t say that the Ferrari in the showroom isn’t an actual Ferrari just because you never drove it. ————->>>>>>You can’t say canon facts are not facts just because you don’t like how the appear or their lack of appearance where you prefer them.
And your analogy here is broken, worse. Lol

Ferrari car have distinction or its own unique style to make it different to the other car. In the official showroom all the Ferrari car is the real. I can touch, explore the car from its exterior to its interior to it engine. I don't need to drive it to know its a Ferrari car. I don't need to look for Enzo Ferrari(Ferrari founder) sign or stamp of approval on the car to know its a real Ferrari car.

All Ferrari car is the same, A Car. A Ferrari branded car.

what a failed reverse analogy haha...

while Manga =//= Novel

Novel - 90%/99% writing
Manga - 99% drawing

Because Novel is not manga and more importantly it is not the main storyline's platform(manga) so novel is in different situation. Novel contents/feats can't be deemed canon unless it addressed by Manga. Simple





That doesn’t matter! Once again, the event or feat does not have to happen in the boruto manga for it to be canon. Sakura’s novel took place almost 20+ years before the boruto era (anime/novel), why would it would it be animated or conjoined into Borutos focus? Is the plot suppose to randomly go back in time?
Just simply addressed small part of event from Novel in the Manga is enough.

Like how Kodachi put Sumire in the manga just for the sake of being there in the manga has automatically makes Sumire canon to manga.

Simple

Doesn’t matter.

The time in which it takes place isn’t a requirement for it being canon.
The time of the Novels happened is not the reason Novels are not canon but blank period is a massive fanfiction period where the writers can write anything disregard the next continuation story.


No the novel is a continuation of the naruto manga, the boruto novels particularly in fact adaptations of the the boruto manga/anime.
AND BORUTO MANGA IS THE CONTINUATION OF NARUTO
MANGA. SO THE BLANK PERIOD NOVELS NEED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF FORESHADOWING IN THE WRITING.



It doesn’t matter if it happened in the blank era, nothing suggest that the novels have no validity because of the time it took place. These novel your calling fan fiction WERE APPROVED BY KISHIMOTO HIMSELF AFTER BEING COMPLETED UNDER HIS SUPERVISION.

Kishimotos direct involvement is fan fiction how? He guides the the development of these novels first hand. Hahahah...
Just the same statement again and again

But Novels of blank period still not canon.

You just blowing hot air at this point...

THEY COMW FROM THE SAME WRITING MEDIUM, HOW YOU MIGHT SAY? BECAUSE THEY EACH WERE SUPERVISED AND APPROVED BY THE ORIGINAL AUTHOR OF THE STORY.
Irrelevent until proven otherwise.

YOU ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE GUY; twisted up like a pretzel. The NOVELS, ANIME & MANGA are all canon. Their different classifications or implements doesn’t make one less then the other because their all canon just the same.
The twisted one is you.

Only Boruto Anime is canon to manga. Which means filler or anime only story in Boruto Anime is canon. Boruto Novels are canon confirmed. Some Naruto Shinden(2018) that getting anime adaptation is canon.

Blank Period is not canon and Retsudens not yet.



HOW YOU WOULD WRITE THE MANGA IS IRRELEVANT AND HAS ZERO TO DO WITH THE VALIDITY OF ANYTHING CANON.
THIS IS SIMPLY HOW YOU WOULD LIKE THE STORY TOLD AND ITS A CRITICISM YOU SHOULD TAKE UP WITH THE AUTHOR.
YOUR VIEW DOWSNT EQUATE TO SOMETHING BEING FACTUAL OR NOT POINT, BLANK, PERIOD.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WRITERS OR KISHIMOTO BECAUSE THEY NEVER STATED THIS NOVEL IS CANON OR THAT NOVEL IS CANON.

MY PROBLEM IS WITH NOBODY PERSON LIKE YOU. A FAN.







Because the novels are canon too not matter how hard your mental gymnastics gets. Lol
Itsnt.


But don’t the boruto novels prove a connection to the confirmed canon anime? You said nothing consistently connects them and I gave you 5 facts that prove the opposite.

You lost dude!! Say this has no connection to the canon anime please so I can get a good laugh. Hahaha
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when I said some Novels presented inconsistency or not connected I'm not talking or referring to Boruto Novels or Shinden(2018) but blank period and Retsudens.

Find me where I said Boruto Novels is not connected to Boruto Anime in this thread.

way to misinterpreted or wrongly countered my actual point. Lol

The desperation hahaha......
 

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Yes it is!! His approval and SUPERVISION means that the story is in conjunction with his own work. He’s monitoring the writing about the characters her created and is approving their betrayal. Kishi’s approval & supervision means a lot but mostly their cannon. You have no counter
Irrelevant. The approval means nothing. Kishimoto just approved the writing idea and not canonicity of the writing.


Your delusional.. you have no points, I’ve countered them all with actual facts, all your posting is your opinion about portrayals and how you don’t agree with the writing. No actual counters just that..
You never presented any facts apart from the confirmed one.


The novels are full of actions!

And those actions are canon
Way to misinterpreted the actual point. Shameful.

Words that are facts are all I need.
And there's none.



Any feat in the novel is canon because the novels are canon themselves according to Kishi.
He never said that. Its all coming from your own interpretation.





Yes she did life things, go read her novel and then go back to the databook and read how CES allows you to lift greater mass, Sakura is listed as a user under the translation.
Sakura hiden is not canon.




Yes it is. Whether you want to accept that or not they are.
NO IT ISN'T.


[QOUTE]That Databook mostly used Tsunade for the example, not Sakura. How desperate you can get lol.[/QUOTE]

And? It doesn’t matter is the databook is using Tsunade as it example because the the technique is used by both characters. The data books explanation of mystical palm has no mention of Tsunade but she can use it right?
If she has feat of performing that jutsu in the Manga she should be the canon user of that jutsu. If she never performed it she can't be one of the user.

Sakura never lift anything in the manga but Tsunade has.

Its very easy to understand.

Manga feat matter.

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So it would be desperate to say Tsunade can use the medical technique the say was Kabuto is doing? Your the only one desperate, Sakura is listed as a user of CES so the mechanics of CES apply to her as well. Hahahah..
I only go with Manga feat not fuking statement.

Madara and Sasuke have Rinnegan but I can't say Sasuke can use limbo because there's no such manga feat for him, Same with Amenotejikara to Madara. Madara doesn't have.

No manga feat, no jutsu


No, Sakura has only demonstrated the amplification of her punches. The databook/manga says CES does more then that. Sakura has been credited in the databook (which is life canon) as a proctor of CES entire potential. Nothing stipulates her word for word or factually.
YOUR POINT AGAIN?

Sakura has all of Tsunades techniques or can use all of her techniques, just as she can. Being a Senju has nothing to do with anything here, she doesn’t have to come from a clan to be her discipleZ
But Not lifting. I said feat not technique.





What sheer desperation? SAKURA CAN USE CES THE SAME WAY TSUNADE CAN CES AND THE DATABOOK SAYS SO. THE FEAT DOESNT HAVE TO BE IN THE MANGA FOR SAKURA TO BE CAPABLE OF USING BECAUSE SHE IS LISTED AS A USER!!!!!!!
NEED A MANGA PROOF OF A LIFTING FEAT FOR SAKURA.

YOU STILL FAILED TO PROVIDE ONE.

Lol trolling. Can Tsunade is chakra staple? Because she never has used it in manga, by your logic she can’t right? It’s not a feat in the manga. Lol
UNTIL TSUNADE SHOWED IT. MY LINE OF LOGIC IS ALL ABOUT FEAT NOT POTENTIAL.

[QOUTE]We play by feat and not imagination.[/QUOTE]

No, capability by databook.
Manga feat matter the most.


But it came be confirmed via databook, of the databook says she can do it.
Doing what??

Nope, the data books are canon.
The data book is a platform attached to both the anime & manga directly, it’s the basis of the explanation of a technique.
Since when we're talking about Databook there. You couldn't QUOTED and address the post properly.

I never said DB is not canon source lol

Irrelevant!!! The data books are canon, every single one. Lol
Of course DB is canon. But not Kido.


The real characters use/technique is still canon.
The difference here it not happening inside canon sources.


The differences are Equal in value.. Kishi supervises then writing just as he supervised his own writing.. Kishi also approves the writing just as he approved his own.
Not enough.

Both include Kishi’s involvement.
Irrelevant!!
















Why? Because you say it is? Lol that’s not how it works.

Naruto & Hinata got married during the blank period, is that fanfiction?
Everyone knows that. If not, how they have 2 kids in the Chapter 700?? It's not fanfiction bcuz logically it should happened inside that period. Even without reading the non canon novel.

Sakura gave birth to Sarada during the blank period, is that fanfiction?
Same as above.

Sakura/Shikamaru became Jonin during the blank period, is that fanfiction?
Same as above.


Easy counter.


Unless you're looking for an explanation so non canon novel served it for you. The last movie is canon(chapter 699.5) Everything in chapter 700 have them like that. So we readers just except it even without an explanation

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Irrelevant. The approval means nothing. Kishimoto just approved the writing idea and not canonicity of the writing.
False! Kishi approved the novels in their entirety as a continuation of the naruto series and adaptations to the boruto series. Their is no individual part of the novel that Kishi’s involvement was stipulated limited.

Your making shit up at this point and not bringing any facts, prove that Kishimoto didn’t approve the the novels in their entirety. No where in these novels with his name associated in them can you find “Kishimoto supervised this part and not that part” lol your a troll!!


You never presented any facts apart from the confirmed one.
Your a troll.

Presenter confirmed facts is posting facts, something you’ve yet do. I’ve posted nothing but references from the novels and the only response you have is... “it’s not in the anime or manga”.

Way to misinterpreted the actual point. Shameful.
Actions just don’t come in the form of pictures (manga panels) they also come from written literature too, interpret that.

He never said that. Its all coming from your own interpretation.
Lmao context please.
Kishi approving and supervising the novels themselves means that they are canon or a reliable source.

Sakura hiden is not canon.
Yes it is canon.

✔ Officially published
✔Under Kishi's supervision
✔Illustrated by Kishi
✔Part of Naruto Project
✔Part of Canon continuity

SAKURA HIDEN IS EVEN APART OF THE OFFICIAL NOVEL TIMELINE.

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IT DEAD ASS DISPLAYS EVERY NOVEL IN CHRONOLOGICAL UP UNTIL CHAPTER 700 (BORUTO ERA), SAKURA HIDEN DIRECTLY COMES IN AFTER THE NOVEL VERSION OF THE LAST WHICH IS KISHI’S OWN WORK.

^^^I posted a fact! So when you reply don’t say I haven’t.

If she has feat of performing that jutsu in the Manga she should be the canon user of that jutsu. If she never performed it she can't be one of the user.
Sakura is a canon user of CES which ENHANCES the users own physical strength entirely. Just as it engages striking power via the operation of chakra control it enhances the ability to lift greater mass the same exact way. The databook says Sakura can do it so she can, not having an example doesn’t make it any less factual.

Sakura never lift anything in the manga but Tsunade has.
But the databook that explains the techniques in the manga says she can lift just like Tsunade or use CES to enhance her strength period.

Its very easy to understand.
So using your logic Tsunade doesn’t know how to extract poisons or counter poisons because she has no feat in the manga doing so right? Tsunade isn’t capable of this? Please say no so I can laugh harder at you.

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Manga feats matter right?


I only go with Manga feat not fuking statement.
And that’s why your losing the argument! Statements or words from canon material can be fucking factual dumb ass. The statement of “Sakura can use CES” is a factually statement idiot.

Madara and Sasuke have Rinnegan but I can't say Sasuke can use limbo because there's no such manga feat for him, Same with Amenotejikara to Madara. Madara doesn't have.
Not the same as the manga/databook literally saying Sakura & Tsunade can both use the same technique.
BOTH TSUNADE & SAKURA ARE CONFIRMED USERS OF CHAKRA ENHANCED STRENGTH AT ITS FULL POTENTIAL.


But Not lifting. I said feat not technique.
The same way the CES user increases their striking power is the say it grants the user the ability to lift. Both are are demonstrates of physical strength and CES increases it overall.

NEED A MANGA PROOF OF A LIFTING FEAT FOR SAKURA.

YOU STILL FAILED TO PROVIDE ONE.
YOU NEED A LOT MORE!!!

DATABOOK SAYS SAKURA CAN DO IT SO SHE CAN DO IT. PROVIDING OR NOT PROVIDING ANYTHING DOESNR CHANGE THAT FACT.
YOU’VE FAILED TO DISPROVE THE DATABOOK, NOVELS OR ANYTHING IVE POSTED. YOUR ON A ROLL HAHAHAHA...

Manga feat matter the most.
No being listed as a user of the technique matters equally. If the facts says she can do it then she can do it period.

Since when we're talking about Databook there. You couldn't QUOTED and address the post properly.

I never said DB is not canon source lol
I never said you said it wasn’t canon, I said it’s canon source your trying your best to undermine lol

Of course DB is canon. But not Kido.
Kido is canon, just as Sakura’s novel is canon. Just as the databook that says Sakura can use CES to lift greater mass is canon.

The difference here it not happening inside canon sources.
THE DATABOOK IS A CANON SOURCE. SAKURA HAVING THE ABILITY TO CES TO LIFT GREATER MASS IS INSIDE THE DATABOOK.


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