Did Naruto(kishi) basically confirmed Itachi's tsukuyomi > jinks?

[LoZelda101]

Here's generic sharingan genjutsu that KB breaks out of.

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then right after that, Here's naruto statement about Itachi's Tsukuyomi = GG!

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Before people bring up sasuke references. 1. sasuke has the correct genes and eyes to stop it.

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i think the Time manipulation plays a key role into it's OPness, not that it's neccesary "unbreakable" but rather the time manipulation doesn't give the victim or outside support enough time to actually counter it hence why it's "unbeatable". (my opinion)

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as for how hebi sasuke broke it, itachi states the requirements to stop it, but not exactly "why" it stops it. i understand uchiha's with sharingan can use it to it's full potential but i don't see how that counters the time manipulation. but hey whatever. like sasuke said in his own words......... in dojutsu battle. uchiha + sharingan = Don't fcuk with them.

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[KidGamer65]

Congrats. You can read the Manga.

 

[Dantee]

Genjutsu should be used for openings. Like when Sasuke outsmarted Danzo with it at the last moment. It can also be used to end fights quickly and so it makes pretty strong technique.

 

[LoZelda101]

Congrats. You can read the Manga.

What are you trying to imply? you know how many people believe tsukuyomi(in general) can be broken by jinks? a lot.

 

[The Necromancer]

Tsukuyomi was already able to beat perfect Jinchuriki.

Yes, a Bijuu can break their Jinchuriki out of a genjutsu, but they couldn't react fast enough to break Tsukuyomi, even if they were physically able.

 

[Illuminater]

No perfect jinchuuriki are immune to genjutsu, simple as that.

 

[Dantee]

Yeah, that's basically what i wrote more or less. just find it confusing how it's "not react fast enough" not apply to sasuke as well just because "he's of the same blood"

Tsyukomi alters time perception and since Sasuke and Narutos methods are different from breaking out of genjutsu. Sasuke would break out quicker since he wields the sharingan. Kurama would have to realize Naruto is in a genjutsu and snap him out of it since Naruto is relying solely on Kurama here. Add the fact Tsyukomi can turn a moment into 3 days

 

[LoZelda101]

No perfect jinchuuriki are immune to genjutsu, simple as that.

if they were immune, they wouldn't had been caught inside it in the first place

Tsukuyomi was already able to beat perfect Jinchuriki.

Yes, a Bijuu can break their Jinchuriki out of a genjutsu, but they couldn't react fast enough to break Tsukuyomi, even if they were physically able.

Yeah, that's basically what i wrote more or less. just find it confusing how it's "not react fast enough" not apply to sasuke as well just because "he's of the same blood"

 

[LoZelda101]

Tsyukomi alters time perception and since Sasuke and Narutos methods are different from breaking out of genjutsu. Sasuke would break out quicker since he wields the sharingan. Kurama would have to realize Naruto is in a genjutsu and snap him out of it since Naruto is relying solely on Kurama here. Add the fact Tsyukomi can turn a moment into 3 days

Yeah...but that's just it. kakashi also has sharingan and itachi said he cannot stop tsukuyomi, only those of the "same blood" can. that's the confusion i'm having.

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[6thHokage]

No perfect jinchuuriki are immune to genjutsu, simple as that.

Lord Sasuke>IT>Naruto

 

[Bimbonium]

Yeah, that's basically what i wrote more or less. just find it confusing how it's "not react fast enough" not apply to sasuke as well just because "he's of the same blood"

Sasuke's case is a special case, I'm leaning towards Itachi let him break it, iirc BZ and White zetsu were talking about Itachi and Sasuke staying still for a while, which kinda means the genjutsu wasn't one sec when he used it against Sasuke.

 

[Urda]

No one can break out of Tsukuyomi besides Sasuke.

Each case you presented was Generic Sharingan Genjutsu, which mostly everyone was shown to release from.

 

[Dantee]

Yeah...but that's just it. kakashi also has sharingan and itachi said he cannot stop tsukuyomi, only those of the "same blood" can. that's the confusion i'm having.

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For some reason that is the requirement for beating Tsukuyomi. Maybe it's because UChihas have a high yin power that enables to fight off genjutsu better than others. Sasuke could defend himself from IT but Naruto could not despite having all the bijuu.

 

[LoZelda101]

No one can break out of Tsukuyomi besides Sasuke.

Each case you presented was Generic Sharingan Genjutsu, which mostly everyone was shown to release from.

The scans was not to show the genjutsu, it was to read naruto's, obito and danzo's statement about itachi's tsukuyomi.

For some reason that is the requirement for beating Tsukuyomi. Maybe it's because UChihas have a high yin power that enables to fight off genjutsu better than others. Sasuke could defend himself from IT but Naruto could not despite having all the bijuu.

Yeah probably.. if not that, then it's probably just a lie to get sasuke to end up facing itachi like he wanted so he can hold back and die by his hand. but till that's confirmed, i'm just going to believe only sasuke can beat time manipulation tsukuyomi and no other uchiha, jink, non uchiha can.

 

[Urda]

The scans was not to show the genjutsu, it was to read naruto's, obito and danzo's statement about itachi's tsukuyomi.



Yeah probably.. if not that, then it's probably just a lie to get sasuke to end up facing itachi like he wanted so he can hold back and die by his hand. but till that's confirmed, i'm just going to believe only sasuke can beat time manipulation tsukuyomi and no other uchiha, jink, non uchiha can.

So we just discussing how powerful it is.... Then it's nothing more for me to discuss. :/

 

[LoZelda101]

So we just discussing how powerful it is.... Then it's nothing more for me to discuss. :/

Well, originally that was the topic, but somehow near the bottom i became confused to how sasuke can neg the time manipulation Tsuku. i'm perfectly find that my boy has an out to it, i just don't understand why he does. lmao, for all i know that's the true reason he can block the light out infinite tsukuyomi and less to do with the rinnegan susanoo cloak.

 

[Urda]

Well, originally that was the topic, but somehow near the bottom i became confused to how sasuke can neg the time manipulation Tsuku. i'm perfectly find that my boy has an out to it, i just don't understand why he does. lmao, for all i know that's the true reason he can block the light out infinite tsukuyomi and less to do with the rinnegan susanoo cloak.

Nevermind, I found the scan:

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[Styles]

Tsukuyomi > perfect jins. Been facts already.

 

[TenseiganFTW]

For some reason that is the requirement for beating Tsukuyomi. Maybe it's because UChihas have a high yin power that enables to fight off genjutsu better than others. Sasuke could defend himself from IT but Naruto could not despite having all the bijuu.

Naruto couldn't becuase Rinnegan is required...

 

[LoZelda101]

Nevermind, I found the scan:

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Hm, didn't notice that quote from kakashi. Thanks