Did Naruto and Sasuke surpass thier predecessors?

[KingHashirama]

Madara's second life time doesn't count, for Sasuke to surpass him....

Naruto > Hashirama
SAsuke > Madara (EMS prime)

 

[QdonEms]

With sage power up? Yes.

Without sage power up? No.

 

[VongolaX]

They easily surpassed Hashirama below neg diff.

But Madara exceeded both incarnates by a lot.

On top of that, Sasuke is yet to master the rinnegan.

 

[Mike D Roberts]

Sasuke surpassed Indra, but Hashirama is still stronger then Naruto.

Hashi can use Mokuton to control the beasts, and absorb Naruto's chakra.

 

[Ansatsuken]

I think you fail to realize that OP asked about current Sasuke and Naruto. Nobody is arguing that without the powerups they still surpassed them, that's obviously not the case. Can you even understand what we were asked?

I know it, but it not fair to comparing them like that where kishi give nachos and sausage the best thing nv can offered and put them side by side to hashi and madara.

The point is this thread for if all members here knew that current nachos and sausage is like sky to earth compared to sm hashi and ems madara.

Even there are many thing that kishi dont told us like the limit of hashi and madara true power. What shinsuusenju can do more, what with hashi countless large scroll, what madara ems potential or specialty. Etc

 

[EPICMenma]

Sasuke surpassed any versions of Madara except 2 Rinnegan Juubi Madara and 3 eyes Madara.
Naruto had surpassed Hashirama long time ago.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

Only naruto as what kakashi said.

look at my sig

 

[KcMSean]

I know it, but it not fair to comparing them like that where kishi give nachos and sausage the best thing nv can offered and put them side by side to hashi and madara.

The point is this thread for if all members here knew that current nachos and sausage is like sky to earth compared to sm hashi and ems madara.

Even there are many thing that kishi dont told us like the limit of hashi and madara true power. What shinsuusenju can do more, what with hashi countless large scroll, what madara ems potential or specialty. Etc

I think all members that aren't delusional realize that Current Sasuke, Naruto>>>>>SM Hashi and EMS Madara>>>>BSM Naruto and EMS Sasuke. Fair or not, that's the truth. I only answered the question..besides, it's only natural to compare them.

 

[KidGamer65]

Sasuke was on EMS Madara's level and Naruto was on Hashirama's level before Rikudo's power up, now they are far above that level.

 

[V h o]

It's questionable if they did before the sage power ups, although after the sage power ups they both surpassed Hashirama and Madara.

 

[Xlad]

They literally ascended above them.

 

[IceSlayer]

Theres no such thing as one of them surpassing their predecessors, didn't Kishi say both Naruto and Sasuke progress as a pair?