Did Madara just confirm that Gai matches SM Hashirama?

[Osagyefo]

1. Reaper Death Seal
2. 8th Gate
3. C0

U_U

 

[KingHashirama]

Lol 8th gates is part of Gai's arsenal..whether he dies or not..if it's capable of making him above an opponent is what matters..RDS?..pleasee...let's talk about how MS users are supposed to be blind with continuous use of their eyes

Which kakashi is already..

 

[3MESSIAH]

But everyone is exhausted after a fight like that. While you do realize Hashirama had no intentions of killing Madara until the very end, while the later had intentions of killing Hashirama throughout the whole fight..

But nowhere is it stated he would have died lol. Obito simply wanted to get to him before Naruto and Kakashi could. And also, its more like Itachi let him win. However, Sasuke was the winner and the one who forced Itachi's death.

You seem to believe collapsing = dieing.. while that is against any fighting logic.

And you do understand that Gai's opponent is the one who caused Gai to use the gate of suicide right? Gai didn't plain out say hey i can beat this guy without suiciding, but i'm still gonna commit suicide just to take him down.

Also, for Itachi.. people can say he had a disease thats why he died and so on. But Sasuke is the reason Itachi died at that time. Otherwise Itachi would still be alive, though in a bad state.

i agree...itachi let him win..i was just trying to clarify my example.i think if obito hadnt recovered sasuke from that fight he would have most likely die....remember he had no chakra left and he even pushed further...once you lose all the chakra you can die....so in some cases you could say exhaustion-death...of course not in all of them.....plus there`s no telling how long sasuke was recovering...if it was for some days that could definitely signify his death if obito hadnt recovered him

the bold one--->but he would take him down! defeat him,be the victor! he would die afterwards but he would take down his opponent! that`s the whole point i am trying to make....even if he dies later he is the victor(in my eyes)....in your way of thinking it`s a draw....which basically also makes sense because he dies....but i only proclaim gai the winner because my way of analyising the result and the fight itself is different......i see it as a staged fight in an arena where guy defeats his opponent first(meaning he won...)but gets rejuvenated before he dies for the sake of knowing how to declare a clear winner...otherwise it would really be a draw if i was thinking like you....the difference is i think of it as an imaginary versus arena staged-like fight and you think of it as a real world fight where gai would die afterwards and the fight would be a draw...i understand your thinking,just try to understand mine Lol

 

[Touken]

Except we aren't talking about battle wounds, We are talking about Suicide techniques , Abilities that specifically kill the user once executed.

It's a hypothetical battle. It's exactly the same how we don't factor in battle wounds after a battle ends. After one's dead, the other's declared a winner.

Ftg is an ability that doesn't require seals. You can use two abilities at the same time, we 've seen Sasuke using Susanno and amaterasu, as well as many other ninjas doing similar things

And that's a completely separate case. Minato using FTG and RDS at the same time is like a person using Katon and Suiton at the same time.

Once again, ridiculous, The death god is a spiritual entity, according to the databook, not made of chakra. Like dan's soul, it would be able to easily go through physical objects

Holy crap, I wasn't talking about how Madara would survive RDS. I was talking about how Madara ends Minato before he can finish using RDS.

I really don't think you're getting the point .
I don't care if Minato gets destroyed before he uses rds. As far as i'm concerned, Sure, there might be ninjas who can do that. Just like there might be ninjas who can destroy guy before he enters the Gates. That's not the point. The point is that once you use a suicide technique and it's sucessful in killing your target. It doesn't constitute as a win, It's a draw. Since the postrequisite of the technique itself is DEATH

Except that it's a fate sealed by the user himself. It's completely in his hands, and like I've mentioned before, it's still a hypothetical battle, a battle that doesn't consist of little conversations and all the other things in a battle in Naruto. The winner of the hypothetical battle is decided by who dies first, hence why we don't factor in what happens after the battle.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Imo yes 8th Gated Gai >= SM Hashirama, it simply put Might Guy at his stronest as most powerfull shinobi except Ten tails hosts.

Any Ten tails hosts > 8th Gated Gai

 

[Dr Doom]

I know right? If he could've use this on Blind Madara this war could've been over. And also on Juubi Mode Obito.

 

[Vapid]

A more correct way to ask this question would be: Did Madara just confirm that EIGHT GATES Gai matches SM Hashirama?

I don't think EIGHT GATES Gai is too far from SM Hashirama though.