Did madara have amatseru

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I'm pretty sure Tobirama has said before that he's seen amatseru used before so he could of only possibly of either seen it from izuna or madara.

Also we know if your a indra transmigrant you specialize in lightning techniques as seen by sasuke and madaras storm release.

We seen ashura has a chakra avatar similar to naruto, point being transmigrants have same abilities so it stands right reasons indra transmigrants have the same eye abilities.

Just in advance for any of those who say hashi doesn't fit the pattern and your right, that's why I theorized he was tampered with to get his abilities.

 

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Well when they showed Ashura there was that wooden dragon. So Hashi belong to the pattern.
 

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Well when they showed Ashura there was that wooden dragon. So Hashi belong to the pattern.

That was anime only, but ashura was depicted with a chakra avatar similar to naruto in the manga
 

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Kagutsuchi is more like an explosion. I don't believe Tobirama was referring to Amaterasu in specific.

The name Kagutsuchi was originally a compound phrase, consisting of kagu, an Old Japanese root verb meaning "to shine"; tsu, the Old Japanese possessive particle; and chi, an Old Japanese root meaning "force, power".
 

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I think at the MS level there are some jutsu that are just inherent:

Amateratsu
Susanoo
Tsukuyomi
Izanagi
Iganami

I think all MS users have the capability of using any of these as most of the doujutsu I just mentioned have been seen used by multiple Uchiha.

I believe the abilities start to become unique and exclusive at the EMS level (with the exception of Kamui)

Sasuke- Enton
Madara- Perfect Susanoo

Had Itachi or Obito obtained EMS They would probably have some jutsu unique to them as well.
 

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Tobirama was talking about Kagutsuchi, which manipulates flames by applying a shape transformation. Sasuke uses it with his Amaterasu.

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I think at the MS level there are some jutsu that are just inherent:

Amateratsu
Susanoo
Tsukuyomi
Izanagi
Iganami

I think all MS users have the capability of using any of these as most of the doujutsu I just mentioned have been seen used by multiple Uchiha.

I believe the abilities start to become unique and exclusive at the EMS level (with the exception of Kamui)

Sasuke- Enton
Madara- Perfect Susanoo

Had Itachi or Obito obtained EMS They would probably have some jutsu unique to them as well.

EMS doesn't add unique jutsu. Sasuke had Enton before EMS, because he used it vs Raikage.

Amaterasu is unique to Sasuke and Itachi
Susano'o is "rare" to Uchiha who have both Mangekyo powers
Tsukuyomi is unique to Itachi
Izanagi and Izanami aren't Mangekyo abilities. Danzo, Itachi, and Madara used them with 3 tomoe Sharingan.
 

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Tobirama has never seen Amaterasu:Kagatsuchi before. However, fighting the Uchiha may have exposed him to Katon: Kagatsuchis like the ones Shisui uses in Storm 4.

Tobiramas states he never seen a kagatsuchi like Sasukes before and how flawless the ratio was when Sasuke/Narutos techniques combined.

But its still up in the air if he ever did see Amayerasu through Izuna since we know Madara doesnt have it.
 

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Tobirama has never seen Amaterasu:Kagatsuchi before. However, fighting the Uchiha may have exposed him to Katon: Kagatsuchis like the ones Shisui uses in Storm 4.

Tobiramas states he never seen a kagatsuchi like Sasukes before and how flawless the ratio was when Sasuke/Narutos techniques combined.

But its still up in the air if he ever did see Amayerasu through Izuna since we know Madara doesnt have it.

How do you know madara doesn't have it
 

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EMS doesn't add unique jutsu. Sasuke had Enton before EMS, because he used it vs Raikage.

Amaterasu is unique to Sasuke and Itachi
Susano'o is "rare" to Uchiha who have both Mangekyo powers
Tsukuyomi is unique to Itachi
Izanagi and Izanami aren't Mangekyo abilities. Danzo, Itachi, and Madara used them with 3 tomoe Sharingan.

Wait did not Itachi implant Amaterasu to Sasuke eyes ? Maybe that is reason why he have it ?
 

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Itachi implanted a one-shot Amaterasu in Sasuke, that would activate when he saw Tobi's Sharingan.

Yeah i know but maybe it was reason why it awakened in Sasuke. Or maybe because they are brothers ?
 

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I wonder if Madara's temporary SM made him figure out(by sensing) what kind of jutsu Amaterasu was, before countering it.
 

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I wonder if Madara's temporary SM made him figure out(by sensing) what kind of jutsu Amaterasu was, before countering it.

Is that how it went I really don't remember
 

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Im sure he needs to have 2 more techniques from MS/EMS - I guess cause of the nerf
 
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