Did Hinata surpass part 1 Neji in the manga?

[Tyris]

Dats Part 1 filler

Edited. Meant her best feat period is in p1.

 

[Made in Heaven]

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Dont go full retard while fapping so hard...

Say your going out to eat with a friend and are headed to the car... you "have" the keys but misplaced/left them in the house without noticing. You ask your friend if they've seen your keys... friend replies: "dont you normally have them?" Or something along those lines... as the key and car owner, you simply forgot them no matter the reason and were reminded of the last or usual location of your keys(byakugan) because you cant drive the car(see naruto) when your best equip to know the answer as opposed to those around you

Emmm... nope, that's not called reminding her. Reminding her would be if she forgot to activate them and then Kiba reminded her to do so. She simply asked if Naruto was nearby and Kiba pointed in the direction Naruto's scent was coming from, telling her to activate her Byakugan. Where is the indication that she forgot to activate it?

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And she tripped over 2 rocks all by herself lol

Are you really still going there? I already explained this to you, yet you just went on ignoring it .

A lot of people, often moronic trolls, like yourself, try to use this moment as some sort of valid argument as to Hinata having poor foot work.

However, this was nothing more than a case of Hinata running out of chakra and collapsing form exhaustion. Such things have happened many times with many other character before hand, such as Sasuke after his fight with Itachi, Deidara after his fight with Sasuke, Neji after his fight with Kidomaru, Choji after his Fight with Jirobo, Kakashi after his fight with Deidara’s clone, and so on and so forth.

Likewise, Naruto tripped on the ground in his fight with Sasuke. What is the reason for both of them collapsing in such a manner?

Her excuse is the same as Naruto’s: Running low on chakra.

Hinata was fighting for 2 days, and saying she was unharmed is the dumbest thing you could possibly say, as Hinata was arguably in the most chaotic area of the battle field sans Madara and Obito’s locations.

As Shikamaru said, everyone was pretty much out of chakra sans Edo Hiruzen, yet Hinata tried to force herself to catch up with Naruto despite being so low on chakra.

Both are the same case in that, due to being low on chakra and over exerting themselves, they were unable to carry on.

But stop and at least think a little bit for a second.

Why would someone like Naruto trip over the ground despite how fast he is? Why would Hinata trip over the ground despite having the needed footwork to properly use 64 palms? Obvious answer is obvious: Low chakra leads to your abilities and skills getting weaker, slower and overall diminishing. It’s like that irl as well, if someone is tired, their senses, balance, and motor skills becomes poor.

Now that she has bijuu-level chakra, that won’t happen.

Adding to the notion that she does not have precise aim or fluid movements enough to surpass Neji 1v1 any arc

Nope, the simple fact that she can use 64 palms is enough evidence to show she has all that, as 64 palms requires the user to have fluid foot work and hand work, precise aim and reflexes, and fast movements altogether so as to prevent the opponent from having any chance of escaping the 64 palms combo. Hence why it's said to be unavoidable, as the opponent can not escape it after the first hit lands

as he finds his mark and has had 64 down before adolescence unlike his inferior cousin who barely managed to complete the form and on a fodder mini juubi clone & still struggled.

>Calls a Juubi clone a fodder. what?

Again, I already explained this.

She managed to complete it with barely a flaw. Her split second of hesitation is completely and absolutely insignificant and holds no weight in assessing her skill with the technique.

The fact that the Juubi clone was unable to escape the maneuver despite Hinata's mistake shows just how minuscule and insignificant the mistake was, as 64 palms is a technique that leaves no openings for the enemy to escape if done correctly... and seeing as how the Juubi clone was unable to escape it, what reason do I have to believe her small moment of hesitation means anything in regards to her skill with the technique?

In the end, there is no need to make a big deal out of it. But I'm sure you'll still continue to grasp at straws and do so anyways.

Kaiten>her rotation...

She doesn't have rotation

it can be done in air or with less prep if any besides starting a spin. So who's to say Neji cant and wouldn't counter spin on her and nullify her jutsu while sliding easier and faster into his 64(+) palms and neg tht fodder

I have no idea what you're trying to say here. Clarify.

of a "better" branch family member he trained due to feeling sorry for how badly he destroyed her during the chuunin exams AFTER all the tnj he suffered through.

Scans or it didn't happen.

Her best feat period(edit) was killing bee summons

Nah, that was filler.

while neji had already had kaiten down which mind you, she should have had and still doesn't.. oh wait Can't.

Scan saying she was obligated to have had it by 13

Scan saying she is physically incapable of learning it

Oh wait, there are none.

It's laughable how you and every other imbecile bring up this whole ''Neji has rotation, Hinata doesn't" to somehow [pathetically] argue why P1 Neji is above P2 Hinata, yet P2 Hinata, while not having rotation, still has TLF and Air Palm, while P1 Neji doesn't. So Hinata has two techniques he doesn't have, yet he only has one, but somehow that's supposed to prove P1 Neji is stronger than P2 Hinata?

What's with that?

whilst hinata was getting yelled at by her pops cause she aint shit

Scan plz lol.

and the whole clan knew it.

Scan plz lol.

Hinata NEVER fought actually even fought any real ninjas.

Yeah she has. Neji, Zetsus, Juubi clones and Toneri's puppets. And to say she hasn't fought any ninjas is nonsense, as she has, we've just never seen it on screen.

In any case, how does Hinata not having "fought any real ninjas'' show that she is below P1 Neji??

Hell, all the other girls helped fight akatsuki.. hinata hasnt landed a single blow on a reputable ninja...

And yet she saved the whole alliance and the whole world... twice. M'kay

 

[Da Best Ever]

Neji's skills is better than hers.


He self taught himself the hidden hyuuga jutsu's while she learned from him. Even her father hiashi said neji had the best and purest byakugan.


He's physically better than her even his part 1 self is and rotation along with greater speed and reaction time.Also he as a genin was jonin level which is why despite losing to naruto in the exams he was the only one to make jonin while shikamaru made chuunin and the rest remained genin.


Also kakashi saw himvs hinata and said " I didn't know such a guy exist" and lee said neji is the most powerful genin to ever come out of the leaf.


Not only is his skill greater than hers but he's physically faster stronger and greater reaction.buton top of all that he's significantly smarter than her in part 1 he was possibly as smart as shikamaru.




These are all for his part 1 self vs part 2 hinata.

 

[FunkyFatal]

I feel this is a free world so my voice and opinion deserves to be heard.
Hear me out on this and do not bash me for what I'm about to say....

Obviuosly you people don't understand that Hinata is obviously a girl and has a much kinder heart than Neji who is a guy. Hiashi stated this himself that because of Hinata's kind heart she isn't releasing her full potential. Even with Hanabi, she wasn't able to fully master rotation and never surpassed Neji because she is as kind as Hinata even if she doesn't know it. Hinata's personality is one that doesn't enjoy violence or fighting, but she will fight to protect the things she care about. That is why she was willing to become stronger in order to protect Naruto the person she love and to not live in the dark as a weak shinobi. To me Hinata has the potential to become greatly stronger than Neji, but her personality that's filled with kindness gets in the way causing her to lose the drive to fight or show mercy. She has shown this against her sister Hanabi and others countless times. Also because she is a girl her emotions can get in the way as well, like in the Pain fight. If she had a personality like Temari or more like Neji, she would have demolished Pain the moment the opportunity arised when Nagato lost control of Pain, instead of trying to save Naruto. Saving Naruto could've waited, but her emotions got in the way causing her to lose against Pain.

As I am saying give the woman a break jezz. Most women aren't as aggressive as guys are making Neji easily suited to be a hyuuga and become a powerful as he did. However, this doesn't mean a woman can't fight as strong as any other man could. Erza Scarlet is one for example that can pretty much destroy any guy or girl in a fight. This is because she doesn't let her emotions distract her in battle, unless its something serious like seeing her love one or something get killed ....

*This is not a sexist post so don't even try to claim it to be one okay. Please and thank you.

To me Hinata is on Neji's level or perhaps stronger. She proved to be as strong as he was during the chunnin exams, because if she wasn't he would has taken her down in less than seconds. However, she fought hard and Neji didn't expect her to be as strong as she was, since she didn't show this strength during training. Even in the war she has proven herself to on Neji's level.

Not having a certain ability or skill as another person doesn't mean that you are inferior to that person in battle. Meaning even Hinata has the capability of defeating Neji in a real battle even if she can't do rotation. We seen this a thousand times in this manga/anime how many shinobi with doujutsu or other abilities get destroyed by someone they believe is inferior to them such as someone who doesn't have a kekkai genkai or special ability. Lot's of training and determination pays off in the end and I've seen this countless in real life. A relative of mine is a boxer, mma fighter, and has mastered taekwondo. He's told me many time that he has lost plenty of times, not because of his opponents skills, but because of opponents sheer determination and training. Not only that his fighting experience wasn't as much as those others. However, now he does championship matches around the world as a UFC fighter and has proven himself to defeat bigger and more skilled fighters because he trained his body better than them in the long run. He know's his own weaknesses and strengths. Being able to make your weakness your strength can win you any battle, because your opponent will never be able find that weakness.

Hinata is one of my favorites but I'm not a hinata fanboy/fangirl I'm arguing for all the characters that get disrespected and bashed over mere skill/ability differences.



“Man often becomes what he believes himself to be. If I keep on saying to myself that I cannot do a certain thing, it is possible that I may end by really becoming incapable of doing it. On the contrary, if I have the belief that I can do it, I shall surely acquire the capacity to do it even if I may not have it at the beginning.” ~ Mahatma Gandhi

This Hinata vs. Neji crap is getting very old people lol move on.
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[apple pie of doom]

She might be close to part 1 Neji.
Part 2 Neji is in an entire different league.
All in all I'd say Hinata is slightly inferior to p1 Neji.

Neji was'nt a jounin for nothing.

 

[Char Aznable]

Of course Part 2 Hinata could beat Part 1 Neji in a fight. Hinata's feats fighting in the War prove that alone. Hell Part 1 Hinata wasn't completely blown out of the water by Neji. It was just apparent that between the two of them Neji was the better fighter. Since we don't see much of Hinata or Team 8 during Part 2, her progress from part 1 is up in the air. But I'm confident Part 1 Neji, could not do what Hinata did during the War. Hell Hamabi in Part 1 was stated to be above Hinata, despite the 5 year difference in age, and yet Hanabi was absent from the battlefield.

 

[jsss]

Yea part 1 but not part 2 neji

 

[ghostsoldier3]

Neji knew 128, Hinata finally learned 64 palms at the end of the manga.

I don't get how people foolishly say neji part 1 is better than hinata...my goodness...his fighting skills were excellent and yes he does know the 128...but tell me -- could he do air palm?? no -- hinata can. Also hinata perfected a different form of rotation by releasing her chakra in a different way -- I can't remember if that was filler or actual manga but def. remember that. Air palm trumps 128. In terms of taijutsu skills I'd say they'd be about even now. Also that twin lion fist thing I think she could pretty much wreck him with it...it was strong enough to break the chakra rods that basically people can't seem to touch.

 

[BLAZE]

I don't get how people foolishly say neji part 1 is better than hinata...my goodness...his fighting skills were excellent and yes he does know the 128...but tell me -- could he do air palm?? no -- hinata can. Also hinata perfected a different form of rotation by releasing her chakra in a different way -- I can't remember if that was filler or actual manga but def. remember that. Air palm trumps 128. In terms of taijutsu skills I'd say they'd be about even now. Also that twin lion fist thing I think she could pretty much wreck him with it...it was strong enough to break the chakra rods that basically people can't seem to touch.

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both 128 palms and Hinata rotation is filler
Feats of Twin lion fists r also filler

 

[ghostsoldier3]

Last post I'll be making in regards to this retarded statement of yours.

First Counter: Those white lines are nothing more than dirt being kicked up by Hinata's feet, same way Pain is kicking up dirt in that exact same panel. Can Pain use Twin Lion Fists from his foot ? Lol

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Second Counter: There is no Twin Lion Fist head shrouding her hands.

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And seeing as how the Lion Heads are nearly as large as her own body, I'm 100% justified in saying that we would be able to see them in those panels if they were being used. Which they weren't.

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Third Counter: Even if I were to concede that she was in fact using Twin Lion fists at that moment, she does not need to absorb chakra all the time, she can decide when to do so. And even if she was absorbing chakra, how would you even see it ??

Final Counter: Databook > You

You can kick and scream all you want after this, it isn't gonna be changing reality.

You're not making sense -- why would she use the move and just make it disappear -- it's obviously a move where she shrouds her hand in that chakra and attacks -- its beyond common sense - there have been manga panels where minor things have been omitted or at time it is done lazily -- case in point. What you are suggesting makes completely no sense and I don't see where in the data book states that this move does not continue through. You know very well drawing that 'ish into that fight would have complicated and not shown the type of maneuvers she would be doing.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

You're not making sense -- why would she use the move and just make it disappear -- it's obviously a move where she shrouds her hand in that chakra and attacks -- its beyond common sense - there have been manga panels where minor things have been omitted or at time it is done lazily -- case in point. What you are suggesting makes completely no sense and I don't see where in the data book states that this move does not continue through. You know very well drawing that 'ish into that fight would have complicated and not shown the type of maneuvers she would be doing.

Its a common fact that move never connected in canon.

 

[ghostsoldier3]

Its a common fact that move never connected in canon.

Never said it did - I just said the move isn't one where the chakra lion/dragon things appear and then disappear as his comments implied. I'm just saying it shrouds her hands and she attacks with it...obviously enhancing the damage of her gentle fist...pain was basically annoyed by the attempt and proceeded to toss her away as such.

 

[ghostsoldier3]

@bolded My sides :leaf:

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both 128 palms and Hinata rotation is filler
Feats of Twin lion fists r also filler

So let me get this straight...you used a scan of part 2 Neji using air palm (jonin level) to show that part 1 Neji can do air palm...righttttt...yes I'm fully aware that Neji can do air palm in part 2 -- NOT PART 1.