Did Hashirama show Madara mercy?

[ReapTermin]

I think that Hashirama and Madara were the way Naruto and Sasuke are right now. Hashirama probably defeated him, but never found the courage to kill his best friend. I think this will happen with Naruto and Sasuke. They will probably fight in the future, but if Naruto does defeat Sasuke, I don't think he'll want to kill his best friend. "Hashirama also seemed to have a sense of honour regarding his opponents and, despite their rivalry, possessed great respect for Madara Uchiha". And Madara did have respect for Hashirama.

 

[Mayhem]

And how should I be able to see that over internet?

I'm guessing this reply is for me.

By sign i meant typing.

 

[warawar]

Hashirama showed Madara what happens to people who mess with the Senju's. He let Madara live so that he would live in fear of the Senju's. ( Though all Madara was trying was to get his DNA )

this

 

[OWanime]

yeah it's like naruto who wanted sasuke to change by beating him senseless but it turns out that hashi actually went through with the final blow xd

 

[kellzfresh]

If hashirama showed mercy, then madara is a weak ass guy U_U

 

[Aze]

They where Rivals , Madara considered Hashirama to be the best.

Hashirama considered Madara too be the best.

Both knew...that their fight would be a stalemate or someone will die.

 

[Uchiha Riyo]

Madara wanted Hashirama's cells, it's possible that Madara didn't go all out.

 

[silmarill]

no they were equal in a similar way to naruto and sasuke but hashirama just won the last fight between them. i am sure madara has beaten hashirama also on a few occasions also.

Didnt realise fanboys were this far in their illusion lol:|

 

[Tsuki]

I dunno why but i still dont believe hashirama killed madara... and just a question for my own curiosity, we learn that madara activated rinnegan lately just before he died. Wasn't Rinnegan something an Uchiha could achieve only by having some Senju dna?

 

[Owarij]

Nope, Tobi said "Everyone thought i was dead... even Hashirama.."

seeing that tobi has accurate memories of Madara's past, i believe him.. In that case it wasn't anything to do with mercy, though it is possible

Hashirama simply thought he died

 

[uchiha defender]

Didnt realise fanboys were this far in their illusion lol:|

why is it now an illusion? do you have anything saying that madara didnt win any of the fights they had? or do you just assume that the last one equals all the rest before that.

 

[Rot]

Nope, Tobi said "Everyone thought i was dead... even Hashirama.."

seeing that tobi has accurate memories of Madara's past, i believe him.. In that case it wasn't anything to do with mercy, though it is possible

Hashirama simply thought he died

You didn't even read it, if you had you would of known I wasn't speaking of VOTE fight, I was speaking of the fights between the two that occurred before village's even existed, you know Senju and Uchiha's call for peace is what gave birth to Konoha and eventually all villages

I don't know how to put this any clearer for derps who tldr; This has nothing to do with VOTE battle, I am speaking of the constant battles between the two before the era of villages

Considering how many times they allegedly met in battle, why is it that Hashirama couldn't kill Madara before? Obviously VoTE was the hardest fight between the two considering Kyuubi was involved..so all the fights without Kyuubi and Madara living makes no sense unless Hashirama never had killing intent toward Madara to begin with..Hashirama needed Madara alive during this era because if Madara had died the Uchiha would of been targeted by other clans, or Hashirama kept him alive because without Madara the Senju would of been the top clan without a doubt and Hashirama wanted to keep balance between Senju and Uchiha because it kept the rest of the clans in balance and only decided to kill Madara at VoTE because with him able to control Kyuubi it put the Village at HIGH RISK if Madara was allowed to live..but Hashirama never wanted to kill him (even tho he didn't die anyway..but thats not the point..Hashirama was under the impression Madara was dead after VoTE)


In other words Hashirama had plenty of opportunity to kill Madara in the clan era..considering they "met in battle a number of times" and Madara without Kyuubi during these battles..Hashirama chose to not kill Madara out of respect for his rival and was forced to "kill" him because of the Village's sake @ VoTE..but never wanted to..similar to Naruto/Sasuke only they weren't childhood friends..just rivals

 

[Owarij]

You didn't even read it, if you had you would of known I wasn't speaking of VOTE fight, I was speaking of the fights between the two that occurred before village's even existed, you know Senju and Uchiha's call for peace is what gave birth to Konoha and eventually all villages

I don't know how to put this any clearer for derps who tldr; This has nothing to do with VOTE battle, I am speaking of the constant battles between the two before the era of villages

Considering how many times they allegedly met in battle, why is it that Hashirama couldn't kill Madara before? Obviously VoTE was the hardest fight between the two considering Kyuubi was involved..so all the fights without Kyuubi and Madara living makes no sense unless Hashirama never had killing intent toward Madara to begin with..Hashirama needed Madara alive during this era because if Madara had died the Uchiha would of been targeted by other clans, or Hashirama kept him alive because without Madara the Senju would of been the top clan without a doubt and Hashirama wanted to keep balance between Senju and Uchiha because it kept the rest of the clans in balance and only decided to kill Madara at VoTE because with him able to control Kyuubi it put the Village at HIGH RISK if Madara was allowed to live..but Hashirama never wanted to kill him (even tho he didn't die anyway..but thats not the point..Hashirama was under the impression Madara was dead after VoTE)

because netiher went all out or could go all out...

yes they clashed before many times, but there were also two entire clans with them as well as their brothers... a full out fight without help could never have occurred...

when it did, hashirama won

 

[Rot]

because netiher went all out or could go all out...

yes they clashed before many times, but there were also two entire clans with them as well as their brothers... a full out fight without help could never have occurred...

when it did, hashirama won

So you are saying they ignored each other during all these fights and just targeted fodder? You do realize both of them are legendary and that its extremely rare for anyone from either clan to reach the power level they both had right ? So considering how "fairy tale" they are compared to the rest what makes you believe that fodder worried either of them during these clashes to the point they never fought each other one on one? Pretty sure in the flashbacks of clan era Izuna was never shown but once on his deathbed and Madara had EMS when confronting Hashirama in the forest scene..so thats one brother gone and Tobirama may of had Edo Tensei then but I doubt it..I don't think he created ET until the Nation wars started between Villages

I can't see the clans clashing so much and the two LEGENDARY people never fought one vs one..Hashirama was the only one who could take Madara and Madara was the only one who could take Hashirama..if what you said is the case then they may as well stood back to back and slaughtered fodder from each other's clan:sy:

 

[Owarij]

So you are saying they ignored each other during all these fights and just targeted fodder? You do realize both of them are legendary and that its extremely rare for anyone from either clan to reach the power level they both had right ? So considering how "fairy tale" they are compared to the rest what makes you believe that fodder worried either of them during these clashes to the point they never fought each other one on one? Pretty sure in the flashbacks of clan era Izuna was never shown but once on his deathbed and Madara had EMS when confronting Hashirama in the forest scene..so thats one brother gone and Tobirama may of had Edo Tensei then but I doubt it..I don't think he created ET until the Nation wars started between Villages

I can't see the clans clashing so much and the two LEGENDARY people never fought one vs one..Hashirama was the only one who could take Madara and Madara was the only one who could take Hashirama..if what you said is the case then they may as well stood back to back and slaughtered fodder from each other's clan:sy:

WTF? did i say they never fought?
i said other people would have gotten involved , clan retreats etc..

picture izuna about to get killed, would madara not defend him ? this is what i mean.. on a clan war battlefield, it would have been IMPOSSIBLE for them to have a serious all out fight....

 

[Rot]

WTF? did i say they never fought?
i said other people would have gotten involved , clan retreats etc..

picture izuna about to get killed, would madara not defend him ? this is what i mean.. on a clan war battlefield, it would have been IMPOSSIBLE for them to have a serious all out fight....

Maybe they couldn't of had an all out fight..but if thats the case they never did..Madara even stated he wasn't trying to kill Hashirama at VoTE..just steal his DNA (this is why i say Madara didn't know about Rinnegan until after village days, he would of had alot of chances to steal DNA in the pasT)and Kyuubi was involved..from what Madara said he lost on purpose once he obtained the DNA and faked his death..so if this was the end all battle it wasn't all out either considering the goal was obtaining DNA and fleeing..

It doesn't change my opinion that neither Madara or Hashirama wanted to really kill one another out of respect for each other..(well maybe Madara had killing intent until he hatched the whole DNA plan)

 

[MadaraHashirama]

Hashirama was a very kind and caring person, he's the descendant of the Younger Son of Rikudo Sennin, he believed "love" could be the key for peace.
I believe Hashirama somehow just didn't finish him off, I guess Madara was kinda jealous of Hashirama just the way the Older Brother was jealous of the Younger brother and how Sasuke was jealous of Naruto becoming so strong back in Part 1 if I remember correctly.

 

[Owarij]

Maybe they couldn't of had an all out fight..but if thats the case they never did..Madara even stated he wasn't trying to kill Hashirama at VoTE..just steal his DNA (this is why i say Madara didn't know about Rinnegan until after village days, he would of had alot of chances to steal DNA in the pasT)and Kyuubi was involved..from what Madara said he lost on purpose once he obtained the DNA and faked his death..so if this was the end all battle it wasn't all out either considering the goal was obtaining DNA and fleeing..

It doesn't change my opinion that neither Madara or Hashirama wanted to really kill one another out of respect for each other..(well maybe Madara had killing intent until he hatched the whole DNA plan)

Madara never stated he didn't try to kill hashirama at vote..

Madara went all out and lost.. though he had two goals that day.. beat him and get his dna.. He lost.. he admitted that.. and he respects Hashirama to this day for that.... But even in that fight Madara looked at the bigger picture.. that's all

Hashirama was > Ems madara

 

[MrLukyso]

Well, I think it's more possible that Madara spared him, because we know that he was trying to obtain his DNA :?

But you kinda give wrong facts.. For example you say that Hashirama spared Madara, but what the heck is this ? Madara was beaten, but was still enable to trick Hashirama, and make him think that he's dead, Madara and Hashirama were and is legends, Madara had his own intentions, Hashi had his own. .. No need to tell nonsenses. "Everyone fought I was dead, even Hashirama was convinced" It was said, Peace.

 

[TobisPawn]

Well, I think it's more possible that Madara spared him, because we know that he was trying to obtain his DNA :?

But you kinda give wrong facts.. For example you say that Hashirama spared Madara, but what the heck is this ? Madara was beaten, but was still enable to trick Hashirama, and make him think that he's dead, Madara and Hashirama were and is legends, Madara had his own intentions, Hashi had his own. .. No need to tell nonsenses. "Everyone fought I was dead, even Hashirama was convinced" It was said, Peace.

I doubt Madara spared him. He could have killed Hashi and stolen his DNA.