[Discussion] Diamante Vs Sanji

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Sanji wins by the same difficulty Zoro defeats Pica by
I actually doubt this. Pica would give Zoro more difficulty than Diamante would give Sanji because Sanji's ability to fly would get around Diamante's advantage of fluttering the ground. On the other hand, Zoro can't really get around Pica's powers that easily because of its scale and nature. Even though the power gap would be pretty much the same between Sanji and Diamante and Zoro and Pica, Pica's abilities makes his fights harder
 

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Doubt it matters. Sanji been breaking steel since pre-skip. If a one-legged Kyros can fend him off, imagine what a flying Sanji will do.
Even low class swordsmen can break steel nowadays. Hell even baratie arc Luffy could break it after some attempts. I doubt a master swordsman like Kyros will struggle, like i also doubt Diamante will be so overconfident if it was a simple steel material. Obviously that cape was enhanced with armament haki.
 

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Even low class swordsmen can break steel nowadays. Hell even baratie arc Luffy could break it after some attempts. I doubt a master swordsman like Kyros will struggle, like i also doubt Diamante will be so overconfident if it was a simple steel material. Obviously that cape was enhanced with armament haki.
Good guess, but obviously? I wouldn't say that. We don't know if Diamante can even use Haki. I take back my previous point though, about Sanji breaking steel pre-skip, since you can have some steel constructs that are stronger than others.
 

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Good guess, but obviously? I wouldn't say that. We don't know if Diamante can even use Haki. I take back my previous point though, about Sanji breaking steel pre-skip, since you can have some steel constructs that are stronger than others.
It's pretty stupid to assume Diamante can't use Haki, especially as an experienced pirate and fighter in the New World
 

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It's pretty stupid to assume Diamante can't use Haki, especially as an experienced pirate and fighter in the New World
Caesar is an experienced fighter and lives in the New World. So is Monet. Their Haki is where again? There's also Ace who showed no signs of Haki either. I'm just not into the whole giving abilities we've never seen people use thing unless their portrayal demands it, and Diamante's doesn't.
 

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Good guess, but obviously? I wouldn't say that. We don't know if Diamante can even use Haki. I take back my previous point though, about Sanji breaking steel pre-skip, since you can have some steel constructs that are stronger than others.
Obvious considering Kyros would break normal steel otherwise. The only enhancement that could stop Kyros from breaking his cape is armament. He also recognised Luffy and Chinjao's usage of haki during the tournament, which implies observation. Even someone treated like garbage by the family like Bellamy has armament. It would be stupid to think one of Doflamingo's strongest fighters don't have haki
 

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Obvious considering Kyros would break normal steel otherwise. The only enhancement that could stop Kyros from breaking his cape is armament. He also recognised Luffy and Chinjao's usage of haki during the tournament, which implies observation. Even someone treated like garbage by the family like Bellamy has armament. It would be stupid to think one of Doflamingo's strongest fighters don't have haki
Lots of fodder at MF recognized that Luffy used Conqueror's. Even Hachi was able to recognize Conqueror's from Rayleigh. Diamante was able to recognize it because Doffy has it, and he's probably witnessed Doffy use it before.

Steel comes in varying level of strength. For example, the Seige Wall at MF that could withstand Whitebeard's Quakes, or the walls that lined up underground Enies Lobby that Zoro couldn't cut through. Diamante could simply have a steel that Kyros lacks the ability to cut through.
 
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