With all the genjutsu talk i was wondering how deidara could train his left eye to counter the sharingan's abilities.He said it took 10 years and he actually dispelled one genjutsu, before he was caught in another.But how?
As far as i could tell he didn't use genjutsu release(kai),no doujustu,and he did not escape the genjutsu through extreme pain.
what do you think?
First, nothing Deidara does is a hoax, it is art. It doesn't matter if it's training his eye for genjutsu or brushing his teeth. lol.
Please cite where he trained that eye for 10 years, because he was young as hell, and really only decided to do it after being awe-inspired by Itachi catching him in genjutsu and releasing it before he blew himself up. That's when he decided to train his eye so it would never happen again; thus it was only a few years, but I don't think that's all that critical to the discussion. It's also possible Kishi made a mistake or he was working on this semi-seriously before Itachi. However, Itachi was the driving force. I believe that the flashback is during the Deidara vs. Sasuke fight, but I don't recall the exact chapters/pages.
he cant use genjutsu but he could see through some pretty strong ones time to time
sasuke used 2 genjutsus during sasuke vs deidara
first one was during the first c4 and deidara saw through it
second one was during the second c4 which deidara didnt use the eye thing cause he was to confident
@deidara senpai. I'm basically elaborating on your words as what you spoke is pretty much how I understood that battle.
The first time in that fight, Deidara used his trained left eye to see through Sasuke's Sharingan genjutsu and hid in his clay bird the first time.
Granted, I'm not sure how this works (it's never explained in the manga), as he seems to have some sort of mechanical augmentation on that left eye that clearly restricts the dilation of his pupil, so maybe it prevents or ameliorates how much chakra flow can pass through the eye preventing an opponent from having enough to control the chakra flow going to the brain and successfully landing a genjutsu up to a certain level/rank, I am just speculating as, again, we're not told. The genjutsu he saw through the first time was a Sharingan genjutsu by Sasuke, which is pretty powerful, but I don't know where to rank it, maybe A- to B or something? It's not like it was Tsukiyomi (S-rank) or anything. But a Sharingan genjutsu of presumably that level took out one of the Raikage's guards (elite jounin rank) pretty easily at the Kage summit.
The second time, Deidara dropped his guard, which is why he was caught in Sasuke's genjutsu, not because they left eye failed. I presume he either used his right eye (which had no protection) and left eye, or didn't use his left eye correctly due to believing the fight was his. As we know, Sasuke cast another genjutsu, which landed, and Deidara didn't know it until it was revealed, costing him the fight essentially.
Deidara's left eye is no more a hoax than Neji's Byakuugan (i.e. not a hoax). Recall in the Chuunin exams after a Kyuubi empowered Naruto smashed into Neji's Heavenly rotation, Neji was exhausted and saw Naruto's body, so he turned off his Byakuugan. However, it was a shadow clone, and the real Naruto was right below him, if he had left it on, he would've seen him and not be upper cut and lost the match quite possibly.
Arrogance is a human fault, not the technique's fault.
We`ll see what leafeater has got to say about all this crap. I amNot The Deidara Fan
he just programmed his chakra to react abnormally in case of a genjutsu, focusing its attenttion on his left eye
Yeah, that's one possibility as genjutsu is all about controlling the opponents chakra flow to their brain. Like I said above, in pictures of Deidara, you can clearly see his left pupil is no where near as dilated as normal, so I think he's restricted it on purpose, thus restricting the chakra flow that comes in. It's never stated exactly how it works to prevent genjutsu my knowledge, just that it does.
Further, I think that there are obvious limitations as to what level/rank of visual genjutsu it would counteract. I doubt it would ever work against Tsukiyomi, not even Kakashi who mastered the 3-tomoe Sharingan without Uchiha blood (a negative) fell immediately to Itachi's. However, how many people have Tsukiyomi? It'd still interesting to see if it would, but it's too late now.
Side note: It's interesting how much trouble some people have gone to in order to try defeat Itachi after swift ass kickings such as Deidara and Orochimaru (trying to inhabit Sasuke for the Sharingan).
Summary:
Anyway, as a Deidara fan that's my best guess at what's going on, but given that it was never explained how exactly his left eye worked to counter visual genjutsu, we can only speculate to limited degree. We can conclude that it was not a "hoax" as the eye has never been shown to fail, and that the reason Deidara was caught in a visual genjutsu was due to him dropping his guard not due to a faulty left eye. This does not mean that the eye has no limits, as I highly suspect it would not stand up to a Tsukiyomi, but we'll never know. Thus the eye is technically undefeated I suppose, lol, but a better explanation of it's mechanics and a greater battery of tests against more genjutsu are warranted for those who truly want to understand it.
I conclude that Deidara's eye is again art, and not a hoax.
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