[VS] Deidara and Hidan Vs Sasori and Zabuza

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Deidara canonically admitted inferiority to Sasori. Zabuza should be able to take on Hidan, or at least stall long enough.

Team 2 takes this.
 

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And he can't do that. His iron sand is stopping a village buster now?
why can't he? Never said Sasori is going to pull out as much sand as gaara did because he doesn't need to. Gaara only used that much sand so he can save himself and the village. If Gaara only wanted to save himself from c3 then he wouldn't have used as much sand. Iron sand doesn't have to complete negate c3 from causing any damage to the surroundings, sasori doesn't have a whole village to care about.

Think of it like this, if sasuke wants to survive a nuke he only needs to summon Manda/susanoo because it'll protect him. He doesn't need to summon a mountain sized snake/susanoo to survive beause he doesn't have to worry about saving anybody else but himself. Besides manda protected sasuke from c0, iron sand isn't less durable than manda...... plus C0>C3.
 

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I got no issue other than it being an off panel feat but most likely was dodged since they can't block it or change its trajectory after it's been thrown. I just found it funny you're using an argument from someone whose arguments you usually find to be fan fiction.
He took notes from the sage nuff said.

Yeha, usually. lmao. Not 100% of his arguments 100% of the time.
smh! and what speed feat does FRS have that phuck lol no one ever mentioned it being fast like ever.

Sasori sand is not 360 so he gets blown away he never even touches deidara who's speed shits on his attack speed C3 clears them nb4 Iron sand tanks ill ask what's its best feat?
 

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So basically "Linear attacks can't hit him because he's in the air". lmao. What weak evidence. Your argument is basically "he dodges it because he can fly" and that's a retarded argument. Chiyo dodged FRS. Whether it was off panel or not is irrelevant, and it's faster than most jutsu used in this Manga. Iron Sand at it's fastest is far faster as Chiyo can dodge it but not dodge Iron Sand spikes. Combine that with the number he can make and the other Iron Sand Jutsu he can make and Deidara doesn't win, especially since the best he can do

And of course you've yet to explain how Deidara actually wins.



He proved his argument was right so I have no reason not to re use it. :lol Got an issue?



Chiyo dodged an FRS from like 20 meters away and couldn't avoid IS that was around 3 meters above her? That's a terrible comparative argument, the paths of pain were able to react (not Deva) and Deva was able to flat out avoid it lol.

It being linear is a perfect argument as he can't change his trajectory mid flight so if he fires one way (from much farther than 3 meters like in canon) it gets avoided by Deidara who has four ways of avoiding.

Deidara wins with C2 based on the feats Sasori have shown (no defensive IS orb) but even with that feat he has creative strategies to win with ease if you really need me to elaborate.
 

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Chiyo dodged an FRS from like 20 meters away and couldn't avoid IS that was around 3 meters above her? That's a terrible comparative argument, the paths of pain were able to react (not Deva) and Deva was able to flat out avoid it lol.

It being linear is a perfect argument as he can't change his trajectory mid flight so if he fires one way (from much farther than 3 meters like in canon) it gets avoided by Deidara who has four ways of avoiding.

Deidara wins with C2 based on the feats Sasori have shown (no defensive IS orb) but even with that feat he has creative strategies to win with ease if you really need me to elaborate.
20 meters is something you pulled from nowhere. 3 meters is a blatant lie. [ ] Pain being able to evade it is irrelevant because Pain is not Deidara. Pain is Pain. Deidara is Deidara. It being linear is a weak argument, because unless you can actually show he's fast enough to avoid a barrage of these jutsu your argument is bad.

"Susanoo Arrow is linear so Deidara easily dodges it".

-Yet people faster than him in air can't.

Iron Sand can be made into any shape as per DB. :lol Why are you ready to give Kakuzu feats he hasn't shown based on DB but when it comes to Sasori "he hasn't shown it thus he can't do it". Iron Sand tanks C2 with zero damage.
 

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why can't he? Never said Sasori is going to pull out as much sand as gaara did because he doesn't need to. Gaara only used that much sand so he can save himself and the village. If Gaara only wanted to save himself from c3 then he wouldn't have used as much sand. Iron sand doesn't have to complete negate c3 from causing any damage to the surroundings, sasori doesn't have a whole village to care about.

Think of it like this, if sasuke wants to survive a nuke he only needs to summon Manda/susanoo because it'll protect him. He doesn't need to summon a mountain sized snake/susanoo to survive beause he doesn't have to worry about saving anybody else but himself. Besides manda protected sasuke from c0, iron sand isn't less durable than manda...... plus C0>C3.
Irrelevant when Deidara can keep c3 small and use it as a sneak attack against Sasori he would never just drop it down so recklessly like he did against Gaara.
 

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EDIT- It is definitely less than 5 meters ------>

20 meters is something you pulled from nowhere. 3 meters is a blatant lie. [ ] Pain being able to evade it is irrelevant because Pain is not Deidara. Pain is Pain. Deidara is Deidara. It being linear is a weak argument, because unless you can actually show he's fast enough to avoid a barrage of these jutsu your argument is bad.
That looks barely more than 3 meters (which is a human and a half) and how is it something I pulled from no where when Deidara is an aerial character with knowledge on Sasori's abilities? Pain isn't Deidara but is he really faster than Ohnoki in flight? Would he have fared THAT much better than Deidara when being blitzed by Hebi? (Pure reactions) doubtful.

It being linear isn't a trash argument when the opponent is in flight a good distance away from the opponent that simple, if you think a jutsu that Chiyo COULD STILL REACT TO AS WELL AS HAVE HER PUPPETS REACT TO from point blank range is hitting someone 20 meters away than that is BS and if it wasn't you posting this you'd have pure dislikes lol.

"Susanoo Arrow is linear so Deidara easily dodges it".
lol garbage since its much faster than IS but being in the air and farther away obviously makes it easier to dodge does it not?? Are you arguing that distance has nothing to do with if a jutsu lands or not lol?

-Yet people faster than him in air can't.
IS isn't anywhere near Susano'o arrow so don't start arguing this lol

Iron Sand can be made into any shape as per DB. :lol Why are you ready to give Kakuzu feats he hasn't shown based on DB but when it comes to Sasori "he hasn't shown it thus he can't do it". Iron Sand tanks C2 with zero damage.
Why you always gota come at me instead of just arguing? When have I been willing to give Kakuzu feats, over VM's I clearly say "if we could use hype from data book" for the Gian, and the raiton streaming was only in retort to you giving Hiruzen streaming that he has never shown lol otherwise I use strictly feats (I don't go around using every jutsu despite him having mastery)

So no thats BS he can't form whatever he wants just like Deidara can't with his bombs, (C4 variants of his normal bombs would be very useful). Take my man Gremmy and using that as arguments in the VS section means he solo's everyone as he has everything in his arsenal, yet we only use the feats he's shown.

But again even with the dome he gets solo'd, he needs sight so he has to have a hole at all times and Deidara simply has to place spiders crawling on the dome into the hole and Sasori loses lol, he can't just form the dome every time an attacks coming because his formation with the IS is not that fast.
 
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