What are you saying? Ohnoki DID take to the skies and was unaffected by the Genjutsu
Lol nah. C4 nanobombs would act in a similar sense to what Gaara's sand did to uncover the clam. hundreds of thousands - millions of nano bombs hugging the clam then exploding take it out.
Zexion can you please just read the very scan you post, for context instead of just looking at pictures, coming up with random assumptions?
Its a wide field jutsu that outreaches anything Deidara explosion can cover and its constantly being produce. So no its not working.
Then you are assuming he gets lucky to so happen to put a mine under the Clam itself lol which is a far fetch argument. Yet alone me already explaining that Joki easily diverts Deidara to aim and box him in else where.
Already addressed this:
Deidara isnt stopping Gengetsu set up the Clam since it, achieving C2 set is will take the same amount of time as setting up the Clam's genjutsu. And C1 can be dealt with by shooting it down with Water Guns, or Water Clones blocking and diverting the attention.
Is that an argument? :lol point stands that Ohnoki went into the air and wasn't affected by the genjutsu, and with the help of Gaara's sand could tell where the clam was.
Clearly doesn't reach the air as I just showed you or Ohnoki would have still been fooled, and no the mist can be pushed away before new mist is created allowing Deidara to see just fine not to mention his eye is also trained to see through genjutsu. Get the scan of him saying "sharingan genjutsu" doesn't matter as false images are all the same.
Who said anything about under? Literally if he drops them out of the mouth slowly while gliding over the battlefield one will land on the clam and explode it, or at least reveal its location so Deidara can nuke it with the missile since he's conveniently already on the dragon here. Joki boy is useless as after falling for it once its not happening again, and Deidara has more than enough clay to finish this here. Not to mention C4 Garuda ends this as Trollkage can neither sense it nor avoid it.
Are you good? Why would Onoki need Gaara's sand if he isnt effected by the genjutsu to begin with. Why the hell would Gaara need to guide Onoki towards the Clam to begin with?
Manga literally disagrees disputable. No the mist isnt being blown away it will only maybe vaporize the area that explodes which is irrelevant because you are still inside the genjutsu. I No no no no no Zex. I dont need a scan of Deidara countering sharingan genjutsu because the only way to counter Gengetsu genjutsu was stated in the manga already[
I literally just said this:
BECAUSE MIST IS STILL MIST YOU FUCK :lol you still can't see through it regardless of if he's effected by the genjutsu, the mist shoots up and falls down because it too is effected by gravity and atmospheric pressure.
He's not inside the genjutsu if he's above and that still produced enough time for Deidara to see the area the explosion creates, those scans mean nothing he simply said destroy the clam to break the genjutsu. Deidara was unique in that he could see through Genjutsu even though even if he couldn't he still wins this match, as I said dropping the mines hits the clam anyways.
He can't see the Joki Boy either though, again there is still mist covering the ground which is exactly why he'd simply bombard the entire battlefield :lol its literally not debatable.
Someones frustrated lmao. You are still my dude tho, but I still need to educate you boy:
What the Clam produces is steam jets not mist:
Mist is heavier (very small) water droplets, while Steam still more closer to vapor/ invisible gas. Steam can go higher and stay further in the atmosphere then Mist/Fog can. This is why you never see the actual "mist" of Gengetsu's Clam because it isnt MIST.
Addressed he isnt escaping the wide range steam, much like Gaara, Onoki, and Muu (flying characters) couldnt do in canon to counter it. Indisputable.
What in the world you talking about? The Mizukage commands the Clam what or what not to reveal and makes as many mirages as needed. Since it can use Water Particle membrane reflecting light and block out light(which is why Gaara used the same counter to reveal the Clam the same way he did against Muu's
Personality doesn't matter. Especially in a MU intent on killing. I auto set the mindset to out of character, because regardless debaters always seem to puppeteer how their character would do such, and such even if it goes against their personalities. Mindsets should always just be set to out of character.
If thats true should that means every person in these forum should just argue the character your aruging with should just their strongest technique straight off the bat?
Hurricane Watch is killing me. Nothing is open that I'm in the mood to get
