Defending Naruto's Own Power (Dedicated thread)

[Jimihendrix]

the alternating colors and different fonts are really easy on the eyes. Great job on making a user friendly format!

 

[9tailsJinchuuriki]

NO sense being made in this thread. Obviously Naruto is using the 9 bijuu chakra mode. You try to claim otherwise but it makes no sense. Naruto has chakra from the other beasts not their actual bodies. He has the kyuubi in him physically, so of course his kyuubi mode would be dominant, thats why he has those eyes. Are you forgetting the black balls he has floating behind him, which is from having the ten tails chakra. If you were to strip him of all his bijuu chakra, he wouldn't have the cloak.

What he is trying to say is that Obito and Madara gained the black balls and markings on their backs because they had the Juubi inside them, which is a massive amount of natural energy.

Naruto couldn't have gained the markings and black balls from the nine bijuu, because individually their chakra doesn't =senjutsu. But Naruto gained senjutsu from the sage, which means the balls and markings is due to the senjutsu he received from the sage.

If that mode was due to the bijuu power, he wouldn't have had to ask them for chakra individually.

Also, he said that the reason Naruto's eyes became like the kyuubi's in that mode is because Naruto was influenced by Kurama's chakra during the time he was inside his mother and that the eyes and thick whiskers appearing right now isn't due to Kurama's chakra, but because of the massive amount of senjutsu chakra enhancement inside of him.

 

[NaruSasuRival]

What he is trying to say is that Obito and Madara gained the black balls and markings on their backs because they had the Juubi inside them, which is a massive amount of natural energy.

Naruto couldn't have gained the markings and black balls from the nine bijuu, because individually their chakra doesn't =senjutsu. But Naruto gained senjutsu from the sage, which means the balls and markings is due to the senjutsu he received from the sage.

If that mode was due to the bijuu power, he wouldn't have had to ask them for chakra individually.

Also, he said that the reason Naruto's eyes became like the kyuubi's in that mode is because Naruto was influenced by Kurama's chakra during the time he was inside his mother and that the eyes and thick whiskers appearing right now isn't due to Kurama's chakra, but because of the massive amount of senjutsu chakra enhancement inside of him.

There is someone who is actually reading my argument, and chewing it. I read all the feedback, and as always, those who are against the ideas in the thread have no argumentation. They are not even seeing the meaning of the appearance of Madara, Juubito and Naruto.

In order to look like Naruto, Madara and Hagoromo with a perfect cloaking, you need to meet two requirements: (1) Have the body of Hagoromo and (2) absorb a large amount of natural energy. We all know that Naruto has achieved these two because he was born with the body of Hagoromo and he has mastered Senjutsu of Hagoromo, which is nothing but toad Senjutsu.

Some people are saying Naruto was a no talent. Actually, those people don't even know the meaning of the word talent. Being born with the strongest body, stamina, amount of chakra is a talent that has been shown to be equal to having EMS.
Contrary to what people are thinking, hard work did not give Naruto his body, or his chakra. Rather, hard work allowed him to use them.

Question: What is the effect of Ashura's chakra that was activated?

If anyone can answer that, the discussion would become interesting. The reason is that everyone even forgotten that Naruto was born with Ashura's chakra.

 

[Jarex]

Very nice thread. I too believe is only using the power of ashura and not the Power of the bijuus combined.