Defending Naruto's Own Power (Dedicated thread)

[Typhon Uchiha]

Nice thread, I might disagree to some extent but very nice.

However I have to disagree with you completely in regards to having no talent and getting their through hard work. He shadow clone haxxed his way through all his training.

He is the son of the Fourth Hokage and Kushina Uzumaki, that right their is enough to say he is going to be more than just your average ninja, plus on top of that from the moment of his birth he had half of the most powerful Bijuu feeding his already strong chakra.

He was born with all the talent in the world, its just that he never had any one to guide him or teach him how to use his vast potential.
Heck there was even a prophecy about him.

 

[ANiMUS]

why does it matter what kinda power he has? kishi decides the power source of naruto and this what he gave him, this is the power he wants naruto to have, the power of the Bijuu

Ppl care too much about what others think and are insecure about Naruto's having so called "borrowed powers" so they want to put Naruto in a light which his character was never meant to be. Soloing and being born with power is Indra's thing. Naruto has no problem relying on his friends. It makes him stronger (Ashura)

If you are a Naruto fan and believe in his character ideology I don't see any problem as to why you would frown on him getting assistance from the bijuu.

 

[Uchiha Marshmallow]

Bad thread he's using another beings power, it's not his own, which = borrowed power
/threadU_U

 

[nightwolf888]

the sage said that he get didn't get none of his parent's abilitys though, his shadows sucked at the very begaining then after he started training the shadowclones got better and more powerful

 

[Versatile jutsu]

Ppl care too much about what others think and are insecure about Naruto's having so called "borrowed powers" so they want to put Naruto in a light which his character was never meant to be. Soloing and being born with power is Indra's thing. Naruto has no problem relying on his friends. It makes him stronger (Ashura)

If you are a Naruto fan and believe in his character ideology I don't see any problem as to why you would frown on him getting assistance from the bijuu.

ashura not relying on his friends help for awaken his power.

 

[BLAZE]

Ppl care too much about what others think and are insecure about Naruto's having so called "borrowed powers" so they want to put Naruto in a light which his character was never meant to be. Soloing and being born with power is Indra's thing. Naruto has no problem relying on his friends. It makes him stronger (Ashura)

naruto fanbase is downgrading
most r just power bandwagoners and true fans r being overshowed.
Bandwagoners try too make him look like mary sue

 

[Versatile jutsu]

indras reincarnations uses borrowed/taken/given/stolen powers like ashuras reincarnations.

 

[BLAZE]

ashura not relying on his friends help for awaken his power.

and naruto is not Ashura
he is reincarnation meaning he is uzumaku naruto

 

[nightwolf888]

i fllowed naruto from the very begaining and i can assure i'm no bandwager

sounds like ur saying this main charter is not suppose to get strong, what kinda manga is that if he doen't become strong?, how's he suppose to win , youact like hes not suppose to gain any power or anything

 

[ANiMUS]

ashura not relying on his friends help for awaken his power.

indras reincarnations uses borrowed/taken/given/stolen powers like ashuras reincarnations.

Who cares??? Ashura never would have gotten to where he was without others thats his whole character's deal. Whats so wrong with Naruto's power being a form of teamwork? If u wanna say Indra incarnations use stolen powers then thats fine, but it doesn't matter. They have only taken powers from others to make themselves stronger, they still fight alone. Relying solely on their accumulated power thats how Indra works.

If you meant as reference to this thread then no Naruto didn't inherit any of the Sage's Power on his own. He isn't the Sage's son. He is Naruto Uzamaki, son of Minato and Kushina. He wasn't born with special powers, but Minato did give him the Kyuubi to fix that I suppose

 

[BLAZE]

i fllowed naruto from the very begaining and i can assure i'm no bandwager

sounds like ur saying this main charter is not suppose to get strong, what kinda manga is that if he doen't become strong?, how's he suppose to win , youact like hes not suppose to gain any power or anything

i m a naruto fan since day 1
go look at hypocrisy the fanbase makes now a days.
They sasuke fanbase is idiot and then try compete with them
Don't know last time when a thread eas made about naruto's char rather than power

 

[AlastorNazura17]

Bad thread he's using another beings power, it's not his own, which = borrowed power
/threadU_U

You mad cause Sasuke has been spoon fed a lot through the manga also? Stay irate.

OT: This was a great thread, disagreed at some points but overall good job! I'll rep for it.

 

[BLAZE]

You mad cause Sasuke has been spoon fed a lot through the manga also? Stay irate.

OT: This was a great thread, disagreed at some points but overall good job! I'll rep for it.

and u r wanking like naruto isn't smhThis is shonen manga and all MC's r spoon fed

 

[Versatile jutsu]

Who cares??? Ashura never would have gotten to where he was without others thats his whole character's deal. Whats so wrong with Naruto's power being a form of teamwork? If u wanna say Indra incarnations use stolen powers then thats fine, but it doesn't matter. They have only taken powers from others to make themselves stronger, they still fight alone. Relying solely on their accumulated power thats how Indra works.

alone? what happen with madara at VOtE if not kurama? what happen with sasuke at kage summit if not taka and obito ? what happen with sasuke at kabuto fight if not itachi ? they're would be dead if they fought really alone

 

[xcoyote]

He said he can do anything,he aint bluffing.

 

[ANiMUS]

alone? what hapen with at VOtE madara if not kurama? what happen with sasuke at kage summit if not taka and obito ? what's happens with sasuke at kabuto fight if not itachi ? they're would be dead if they fought really alone

TBH, I am kinda wondering what your argument is at this point is, but would you call what Sasuke did teamwork. Taka is a team Sasuke assembled for their usefulness and in the end were disposed of as Sasuke walked down the road of darkness.(Indra's path) I really wouldn't call that teamwork more like Sasuke assembling tools to achieve his goal.

Do you remember Sasuke asking for anyone's help at the Kage summit? At most he ordered Karin to find Danzo the others helped on their own accord. Sasuke was assisting Itachi in his fight to get the info he wanted, but I don't count that as him depending on Itachi to further himself. You really shouldnt take this power thing so seriously.

Also, I don't count the Kyuubi as a companion (it was a slave)

The deeper an Indra incarnation goes the more alone they become.

Oh, well its midnight where I am so i am out. :gn:

 

[Versatile jutsu]

TBH, I am kinda wondering what your argument is at this point is, but would you call what Sasuke did teamwork. Taka is a team Sasuke assembled for their usefulness and in the end were disposed of as Sasuke walked down the road of darkness.(Indra's path) I really wouldn't call that teamwork more like Sasuke assembling tools to achieve his goal.

Do you remember Sasuke asking for anyone's help at the Kage summit? At most he ordered Karin to find Danzo the others helped on their own accord. Sasuke was assisting Itachi in his fight to get the info he wanted, but I don't count that as him depending on Itachi to further himself. You really shouldnt take this power thing so seriously.

Also, I don't count the Kyuubi as a companion (it was a slave)

The deeper an Indra incarnation goes the more alone they become.

great post, but this
doesn't change fact that sasuke not fought alone after itachi death.

 

[ANiMUS]

great post, but this
doesn't change fact that sasuke not fought alone after itachi death.

Itachi's death was Sasuke's turning point. Sasuke has moving away from his path ever since.

 

[Zealous Sparks]

This thread is pretty well put together, but I disagree with some of the points you made.

Naruto's eyes are a result of Kurama's chakra. Naruto's character has always been defined by his role as the nine-tails jinchuuriki. Yin-Kurama is the largest portion of bijuu chakra that Naruto has; the other bijuu being only small pieces. Kurama's chakra would influence him more than that of the other bijuu with the dominant chakra (Kurama) having the most influence on Naruto's appearance.

As for Naruto having to ask for the bijuu to assist him when he requires the need for their chakra, this is simply symbolizing Naruto/Ashura's path of cooperation. We have seen Naruto ask Kurama for chakra before when it was required:

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Plus it's not nice to take something without asking first U_U

 

[Jimihendrix]

or maybe naruto's just being polite like your neighborhood rapist or something