[Discussion] Dedicated to our dear fellow theorist minamoto - Tobidara's theory revealed

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Dear minamoto,

With the revealing information of the fourth Databook (check onemanga), we know at least that half of your theory was proven to be truth.

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Tobi's goofy persona was Spiral Zetsu. This is the great surprise. With this, half of your Tobidara's theory was proven to be true.

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The problem is that the second part which speaks as Madara being the one creating SZ was already proven false in chapter 681. Ergo, Tobidara isn't Tobidara, but more likely SpiralTobi.



The other thing that was proven kind of true is that Obito was being controlled by Madara. But this was proven being a seal put in the heart to control Obito/Rin physically.



...as puppets (for Obito to use Rinne Tensei - The Trump Card, and for Rin to be impaled - Obito/Kakashi's MS Awakening). It was not created to control emotions/mind, only for restraint. This is the manga fact.

This said, it is virtually impossible to imply that Madara controlled Obito, using either a Zetsu or a Seal. Spiral Zetsu never controlled Obito against Obito's will, and the Seal was only used before Obito turned into a Jinchuuriki.

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So, dude, I shall congratulate you. From all these years we waited for the shocking Tobidara's reveal, half of this theory was proven true (and the other half was proven false).

A lot of people mocked you and your theory, I did a lot of debate and tried to prove you wrong.

In the end, you had a shed of truth. Nobody can say you were completely wrong.

Tonight, you're the man dude.

Thanks for everything!

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you did it wrong

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We already know that goofy Tobi was spiral zetsu even before the 4th data book is released. So there is no point in telling that now.
 

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Dude no offense but everytime I see you make a thread it's talking about Minamoto. Are you two the same person? Or are you infatuated with him?

No offense though cause I think you're a pretty cool dude.
 

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What the blue hell did you say?
 

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thx for this thread i apreciatte....Mr Hiru one of the best NB members who i debated with but plzzzz plzz wait untill the last chapters get released....DONT BE HASTY PLZ....
 

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thx for this thread i apreciatte....Mr Hiru one of the best NB members who i debated with but plzzzz plzz wait untill the last chapters get released....DONT BE HASTY PLZ....

Am I still under your Infinite Tsukuyomi list?
 

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What the blue hell did you say?

Well, only the truth.

As you can't counterattack my statements...

You're a ****ing idiot.

You attack my person. That is called Argumentum ad Hominem. A pitiful fallacy.

Anyways... if you don't like it or you don't like neg rep, then don't do to others what you don't want to be done to you.

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minamoto, I did what I did due to this:

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He neg repped me first without any reason.
 

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i dont think rin was forced to die. she did it herself knowing she was a weapon.

no way obito ever had blackouts for something to take over. it could be brainwashing from the inside instead.
 

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i dont think rin was forced to die. she did it herself knowing she was a weapon.

no way obito ever had blackouts for something to take over. it could be brainwashing from the inside instead.



Fourth panel. There's the manga fact.

Two shinobi had a seal in the heart. Both of them removed it through the same mean.

Obito and Rin removed the seal with Kakashi's raikiri.
 

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he said it was funny it happened that way. madara wanted her to die to awaken obitos power, but he didnt want obito becoming the jin.

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he said it was funny it happened that way. madara wanted her to die to awaken obitos power, but he didnt want obito becoming the jin.

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Well, that's the irony. Madara didn't see it coming haha
 

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So, does this mean the Tobidara plague is finally over ? Lol
 

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So, does this mean the Tobidara plague is finally over ? Lol

Under my eyes, Tobidara's theory is over. It was not a failure, nor a complete success. But I wouldn't call it a plague... this thread was dedicated to minamoto after all, a recognition for his hard work.

At least I'm humble enough to accept that I couldn't completely prove it wrong. I don't know about other users... I only speak for myself.
 

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Please don't make topics like this.. it only adds fuel to the fire lol
 

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Please don't make topics like this.. it only adds fuel to the fire lol

I do whatever I like since I'm not doing anything against the rules. If you don't like it, it's okay... you can turn your back and go the way you came from.

I won't hate you ;)
 

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new theory: tobidara put a seal on sasuke during the eye transplant or when madara stabbed him in the heart. sasukedara fv.
 
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