[Debate] Death Penalty is Fair

[Senju Bean]

In the theoretical sense, assuming methods of procuring evidence is perfect.

Here's why:


The world must be fair at all costs.

If one kills, then they must be killed because it is fair.

It's all about balance.

A right world is a fair world. A fair world is the best world.


If someone steals 5 dollars, then he must return exactly 5 dollars. If someone takes a life, he must give a life. It's the same concept.

 

[TRE MERCER]

No it's not.

 

[Faceplant911]

What? I don't understand this, but I do agree with you.

 

[Zealotic]

"Life isn't fair"

 

[Senju Bean]

What? I don't understand this, but I do agree with you.

Confused?

It's fair because if one kills, they must die.

Just like if one steals 5 dollars, then one must return 5 dollars. It's a simple concept

 

[hixa kuogame]

Ah, so you've been reading Madara's new book, "the world sucks", too?

 

[xPHARAOHx]

The death penalty is not always fair. Many of people have been put to death, who were innocent to begin with. We only found out afterwards due to new forensic evidence.

 

[Senju Bean]

The death penalty is not always fair. Many of people have been put to death, who were innocent to begin with. We only found out afterwards due to new forensic evidence.

I'm talking about it in a theoretical sense. If we can truly determine guilt with perfection, then the death penalty is fair. Because there would be no room for error.

 

[OMGitsShakra]

Ok....I think I see what your trying to say, but thats not necessarily true. It seems fair only to apply the death penalty to someone who was fully aware of what they were doing, admits to doing it, and it wasn't in any form of self defense. Like the lady that admitted to killing her own child. She admitted to doing it because she thought he would be gay. She (strictly my opinion) deserves a punishment equal to the crime she committed.

Now for the slenderman obsessed girls, they are 12 years old. I am glad they are being tried like adults, but because of their young age I would argue that their mental state should be evaluated first, before they decide a punishment. It wouldn't really be ok necessarily to kill them for what they did......but they do need to experience punishment to the fullest extent, if they don't show some type of remorse....and then I personally feel they shouldn't be given a chance for parole. It is horrible for the parents, but this shouldn't go overlooked, and that poor victim should be moved into a different state to recover.

Just like the Boston marathon dude, I do feel like part of what he did and why he helped was due to pressure from his older brother...but I still feel like overall he had a choice to not participate or the choice to let someone know exactly what his older brother was up too if he didn't agree with him. The fact though they he just let it happen, makes him as guilty as the brother in my book. Does he deserve death? Thats hard to say, but he is another individual who should never be allowed to walk the streets again.

 

[-6 Paths-]

I actually feel that in the cases where the death penalty is used, the one being executed normally deserves something far worse than a simple, quick, and in most cases, painless, death.

Take, for example, a child offender. Some guy goes nuts, and goes on a spree, where he murders and rapes a number of young children, shattering the lives of his victims, and their friends and families' lives as well. Later on, he gets caught by the police, where he is put into a cell for a few years, before finally he's moved out to a location where he's injected with a poison designed to make his death as painless as possible.

I honestly don't know. A part of me feels like these kind of guys are getting a fate that is far better than they deserve. As for what they truly do deserve, I'm not sure. But a lifetime in prison without a chance of release certainly sounds like a more suitable punishment, rather than a quick, merciful death, for those who have ruined the lives of so many others.
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[Its sasukebase]

In the theoretical sense, assuming methods of procuring evidence is perfect.

Here's why:


The world must be fair at all costs.

If one kills, then they must be killed because it is fair.

It's all about balance.

A right world is a fair world. A fair world is the best world.


If someone steals 5 dollars, then he must return exactly 5 dollars. If someone takes a life, he must give a life. It's the same concept.

you live by the sword you die by the sword that what i believe

 

[OMGitsShakra]

I actually feel that in the cases where the death penalty is used, the one being executed normally deserves something far worse than a simple, quick, and in most cases, painless, death.

Take, for example, a child offender. Some guy goes nuts, and goes on a spree, where he murders and rapes a number of young children, shattering the lives of his victims, and their friends and families' lives as well. Later on, he gets caught by the police, where he is put into a cell for a few years, before finally he's moved out to a location where he's injected with a poison designed to make his death as painless as possible.

I honestly don't know. A part of me feels like these kind of guys are getting a fate that is far better than they deserve. As for what they truly do deserve, I'm not sure. But a lifetime in prison without a chance of release certainly sounds like a more suitable punishment, rather than a quick, merciful death, for those who have ruined the lives of so many others.
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I will have to agree. When I hear that someone has locked their child up in a basement for instance, and starved them for years...i personally feel like they should experience that same punishment. Just like if someone dismembers someone before or after they have killed their victim, I feel like they should experience the same pain they put their victim through. This gets tricky, but like in Castro's case (the guy who had the 3 women locked up in a basement for years) he got off way too easy. He should have been chained up in a dark room, deprived of food and tortured in some aspect for putting those women through the shit he put them through.

I do also think though the same type of thought should be applied to someone who hurts anything innocent, animal child or person. If they admit they did it, they deserve to get punished in the manner they "tortured" the victim. That much is only fair, and if someone ever hurts my animal or child..well they better hope to God the police get to them first because my punishment will be equal too or greater than what they made my pet or child suffer. I remember reading about a lady that threw a bunch of puppies in a river to drown, tied up in a bag. She deserves that same punishment so she can see how it feels. Those poor babies didn't have any voice or any choice in the matter and they didn't deserve that death. I know its just a dog, and maybe i shouldn't put animals in the same category as people, but they have proven over and over recently that animals feel the same pain and emotions as people and on the same level as people. Obviously though, if a adult or child is involved I completely agree with the idea of "you deserve the punishment you put the victim through"

 

[Uzumaki Menma]

I agree with every single thing you mentioned (except one albeit it's still on the money).

Human life is the greatest gift in the universe. The ability to experience, undergo, and witness all the things remotely possible in this world is such an underrated and under-appreciated blessing that the death penalty actually makes up for it.

How? If an individual is rude and indecent enough to take life away, then it is fair for them to have theirs taken away as well. I'm not talking war (unless heinous crimes are committed) or accidents, but the likes of a serial killer who murders for pleasantries.

 

[Conspirator.]

Well yeah I agree with you in general. There's only ONE problem I have the death penalty. There are occasions, when the justice system errs. In those scenarios, we may end up killing an innocent person. OTOH, with no death penalty, the man or woman would spend a period of time in prison.(not an ideal life, but better than killing the person in my opinion.)

 

[FalconPunch]

Human life IS the universe looking at itself, whether you think thats great or not is an opinion not a fact.

 

[~Sky~]

Quite the corruptible system you've laid out.

 

[Jack Spicer]

I agree. Some monsters need to be put down.

I do agree at trying to reform someone, give them a chance, but if they fail again and take a life or what have you, that's it.

 

[Delcan]

Here, possessing drugs over a certain quantity will give you death sentence.

 

[Goetia]

I do not agree with this, but we're all entitled to an opinion.

 

[FalconPunch]

Why must the world be fair at all costs..... I'm interested to know your reasoning for that. Who decides what's fair?