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God what a douche.
Try reading the preceding comments before insulting someone. I would never mark up someones sig for the heck of it, it is incredibly rude to do what I just did to someone elses work. But if you read the comments you would see why I did, and why it was necessary for me to do so. It was a last resort and nothing else. If you are incapable of reading the comments, I will give you a summary:

Mihawk: CnC please.

Preta: Nice sig! But your character is not following your lighting.

Mihawk: Whatever bro, there are only 2 light sources.

Preta: There are way more than 2 light sources in your design. Try to work with them.

Mihawk: Only a blind person can see more than 2 light sources in my sig.

Preta: Ok, obviously appeals to common sense are not working, so I better just show him all the sources he is missing. *Picture*
 

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i bet Mihawk dont care if theres some mistakes since it's a boxed signature :) u know what i mean
Yeah, he did really well, there aren't any big and pointy mistakes, not at all.
Considering his style is doing pop-outs, mostly, it's pretty cool. :)
I can't do a single pop out correctly even though I tried 1000 of times, harder than it seems. -_-
 

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Try reading the preceding comments before insulting someone. I would never mark up someones sig for the heck of it, it is incredibly rude to do what I just did to someone elses work. But if you read the comments you would see why I did, and why it was necessary for me to do so. It was a last resort and nothing else. If you are incapable of reading the comments, I will give you a summary:

Mihawk: CnC please.

Preta: Nice sig! But your character is not following your lighting.

Mihawk: Whatever bro, there are only 2 light sources.

Preta: There are way more than 2 light sources in your design. Try to work with them.

Mihawk: Only a blind person can see more than 2 light sources in my sig.

Preta: Ok, obviously appeals to common sense are not working, so I better just show him all the sources he is missing. *Picture*

Actually it really wasn't necessary for you to do so. Using someones sig to make indications of mistakes and errors so you can win a petty argument of light sources.

You didn't design/create the sig, you don't have the knowledge of how many light sources there are. With my sigs I use only 1 light source, but to others that judge, it might seem more. There was really no reason for you to point everything out when you clearly have no idea what steps or what lighting or how much lighting he used.

Plus changing up your comments in this Preta/Mihawk conversation you created, to seem like you were trying to help when the actual conversation isn't the same wont help you out.
 

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Actually it really wasn't necessary for you to do so. Using someones sig to make indications of mistakes and errors so you can win a petty argument of light sources.
I did not create the petty argument, so please do not blame me for doing something that would end it. If you read my first comment you see NOTHING but kindness. I even started off by saying he did a good job, then I pointed out his lighting mistake in a helpful manner.
You didn't design/create the sig, you don't have the knowledge of how many light sources there are. With my sigs I use only 1 light source, but to others that judge, it might seem more. There was really no reason for you to point everything out when you clearly have no idea what steps or what lighting or how much lighting he used.
I think you're confused as to what a light source is in this context. A light source is anything on the viewable image which would give off light and therefore affect anything that light would touch. Flares/suns/sparkles, anything that stands out as radiant, must give off radiance to make a comprehensive image. There are of course exceptions, such as when the light source is in the far away background and would therefore have no effect on the things nearer to the viewer.

One does not get to "choose" how many light sources to work with in a design. If you have 5 light-bulbs hanging near your character, he must be properly reacting with each. you do not get to say "I'm not going to shade him to interact with the first 3 bulbs, only the last 2." If you do that the image has a major flaw. Imagine the oddness of a man standing right behind a lamp and yet being in complete shadow. That is something you want to avoid.
Plus changing up your comments in this Preta/Mihawk conversation you created, to seem like you were trying to help when the actual conversation isn't the same wont help you out.
My changes were for the sake of brevity. I did not in any way change the context of the conversation.

This all comes down to one simple thing. If you cannot take CnC, do not ask for it. I was polite, I was honest, and now I'm the bad guy because I corrected his mistake.:hug:
 
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I would take Preta's side , even though I am not a GFX-er and I really like Mihawks works, but Preta did what was necessary to prove the point.

@ Gamahiro: Dude, your flaming is Fun when its done on right people and on right time , but saying douche without explanation is lame. you wasted your time and 2 posts on posting same flame when you could have explained the reasons.

Peace out.
 

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I did not create the petty argument, so please do not blame me for doing something that would end it. If you read my first comment you see NOTHING but kindness. I even started off by saying he did a good job, then I pointed out his lighting mistake in a helpful manner.

I think you're confused as to what a light source is in this context. A light source is anything on the viewable image which would give off light and therefore affect anything that light would touch. Flares/suns/sparkles, anything that stands out as radiant, must give off radiance to make a comprehensive image. There are of course exceptions, such as when the light source is in the far away background and would therefore have no effect on the things nearer to the viewer.

One does not get to "choose" how many light sources to work with in a design. If you have 5 light-bulbs hanging near your character, he must be properly reacting with each. you do not get to say "I'm not going to shade him to interact with the first 3 bulbs, only the last 2." If you do that the image has a major flaw. Imagine the oddness of a man standing right behind a lamp and yet being in complete shadow. That is something you want to avoid.


My changes were for the sake of brevity. I did not in any way change the context of the conversation.

This all comes down to one simple thing. If you cannot take CnC, do not ask for it. I was polite, I was honest, and now I'm the bad guy because I corrected his mistake.:hug:
Dude, chill. -_-
You said what you needed to say. You pointed out your own opinion.
Kisame and Mihawk are awesome gfxers, they know what a light source is.
You just came one day and started giving cnc to everyone after seeing one or two of their works. Even though you're trying to help, you're not doing it correctly. It just looks like you're trying to point out how much you know or w/e. The light is alright in the sig. Everyone has their view of the sig.
And there I thought design hall was a peaceful place. x)
 

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Dude.. if you think that those 7 sparkles are the source of light... just close the browser, uninstall Photoshop, turn off your PC, think about answering me, turn it on again, then understand that you're not right, turn it off and throw out it in the window :/
if you want to start making good signatures or will that be anything other in photoshop, just understand properly what's the light source, and i'll tell you there's always 1 or MAX 2 main light sources on the render (Yeah they depend on render dude, not the whole sig) like these:
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Dude.. if you think that those 7 sparkles are the source of light... just close the browser, uninstall Photoshop, turn off your PC, think about answering me, turn it on again, then understand that you're not right, turn it off and throw out it in the window :/
if you want to start making good signatures or will that be anything other in photoshop, just understand properly what's the light source, and i'll tell you there's always 1 or MAX 2 main light sources on the render (Yeah they depend on render dude, not the whole sig) like these:
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best gfx tutorial made so far :eek: about light source i see only 2... others on the BG should light up his ass not moar :D
 

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Dude.. if you think that those 7 sparkles are the source of light... just close the browser, uninstall Photoshop, turn off your PC, think about answering me, turn it on again, then understand that you're not right, turn it off and throw out it in the window :/
if you want to start making good signatures or will that be anything other in photoshop, just understand properly what's the light source, and i'll tell you there's always 1 or MAX 2 main light sources on the render (Yeah they depend on render dude, not the whole sig) like these:
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remove those lines and gib me da render D:
 

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Dude.. if you think that those 7 sparkles are the source of light... just close the browser, uninstall Photoshop, turn off your PC, think about answering me, turn it on again, then understand that you're not right, turn it off and throw out it in the window :/
if you want to start making good signatures or will that be anything other in photoshop, just understand properly what's the light source, and i'll tell you there's always 1 or MAX 2 main light sources on the render (Yeah they depend on render dude, not the whole sig) like these:
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LOL

This is the single most amazing post I have ever read on the internet, and for that I thank you.:hug:

I have read silly things before in terms of design, but the silly thing is usually coming from someone who knows themselves to be new and so doesn't speak with much surety. You have have done the impossible, you have blended arrogance and ignorance in absolute perfection! Now THAT is proper blending.:kiss:

Wait till I tell everyone I know who I have been designing with for years now, wait till I tell them all that we had it wrong all along! You're character is your light source...brilliant! I have heard of placing your light sources in a way that matches your characters natural lighting, to save time on fixing him. But until now I had never heard of not only placing your lights wherever you wanted...but not changing your characters lighting even after doing so!

Little did I know you could scatter, suns/stars/flares/flames/street lamps/rocket fuel, wherever you wanted, and still not change your characters lighting! Brilliant! So if your character is light right to left, and your sig has all its light sources on the left, surely this means you must change your characters shading in order to match...right? No! Brilliant! In Mihawks world the sun does not light you...you light the sun! Brilliant! This will make everything so much less time consuming. Thank you Mihawk!O.OO.OO.O



^^^Now that is some nice and logical blending!^^^^
 

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This is the single most amazing post I have ever read on the internet, and for that I thank you.:hug:

I have read silly things before in terms of design, but the silly thing is usually coming from someone who knows themselves to be new and so doesn't speak with much surety. You have have done the impossible, you have blended arrogance and ignorance in absolute perfection! Now THAT is proper blending.:kiss:

Wait till I tell everyone I know who I have been designing with for years now, wait till I tell them all that we had it wrong all along! You're character is your light source...brilliant! I have heard of placing your light sources in a way that matches your characters natural lighting, to save time on fixing him. But until now I had never heard of not only placing your lights wherever you wanted...but not changing your characters lighting even after doing so!

Little did I know you could scatter, suns/stars/flares/flames/street lamps/rocket fuel, wherever you wanted, and still not change your characters lighting! Brilliant! So if your character is light right to left, and your sig has all its light sources on the left, surely this means you must change your characters shading in order to match...right? No! Brilliant! In Mihawks world the sun does not light you...you light the sun! Brilliant! This will make everything so much less time consuming. Thank you Mihawk!O.OO.OO.O



^^^Now that is some nice and logical blending!^^^^
hahaha :D For years you say ? tell that to ur friends dude, maybe they will trust it... and btw you did not understand ANYTHING from what i've told above, re-read it and edit your post plz so you don't look stupid <3 if you still dont understand, go to some dark palce with your girlfriend (if u have one :/) and a lantern...
 
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if i see light source right, it comes from back, if it comes from back Mihawk wins



ohh wait wut :D those are 5 lights from bg? they dont do shitt
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This is the single most amazing post I have ever read on the internet, and for that I thank you.:hug:

I have read silly things before in terms of design, but the silly thing is usually coming from someone who knows themselves to be new and so doesn't speak with much surety. You have have done the impossible, you have blended arrogance and ignorance in absolute perfection! Now THAT is proper blending.:kiss:

Wait till I tell everyone I know who I have been designing with for years now, wait till I tell them all that we had it wrong all along! You're character is your light source...brilliant! I have heard of placing your light sources in a way that matches your characters natural lighting, to save time on fixing him. But until now I had never heard of not only placing your lights wherever you wanted...but not changing your characters lighting even after doing so!

Little did I know you could scatter, suns/stars/flares/flames/street lamps/rocket fuel, wherever you wanted, and still not change your characters lighting! Brilliant! So if your character is light right to left, and your sig has all its light sources on the left, surely this means you must change your characters shading in order to match...right? No! Brilliant! In Mihawks world the sun does not light you...you light the sun! Brilliant! This will make everything so much less time consuming. Thank you Mihawk!O.OO.OO.O



^^^Now that is some nice and logical blending!^^^^
YOU officially failed..
Dam, gfxing for years? i bet ur friends suck as well ..
 

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What an embarrassing cabal. It's so easy to find the little clicks on any forum and watch as they defend each other endlessly whether or not their friend is correct. Preta has critiqued all our sigs, we must band against this foul beast! Go super friends! :rolleyes:

Google "herd mentality" and I think we've summarized you.:eek:

I must say though, your logical arguments against my rather obvious point of lighting was courageous. Who can argue with "you fail," and "douche." Truly the precipice of design wisdom. Now I'm gonna go light up a room because, I AM THE LIGHT...source.

I think you all just need a hug. :hug::hug::hug::hug::hug:
 

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you just dont get it..READ the text Mihawk wrote 100x times..maybe then u will get it .
Honestly. This is the internet. Try to be more original with your cop outs...

You can read what he wrote 70000 times for all I care, the meaning remains the same. He said his seven flares were not light sources (even though they are clearly radiant objects), and he said he counts light sources based upon the render. There is nothing more to read, it explains why his lighting was so backwards. In his universe, people light the sun, the sun has no effect on people. Such a philosophy is simply embarrassing from a design standpoint and it is not even a beginners mistake, I think even beginners understand how light effects objects. Yet none of it is as embarrassing as watching you and yours defending him and his outlandish statements because you don't like me. Have a little dignity. Do your friend a favor and be honest with him.

Do you not understand that the silly sig I posted with all the flares on one side is "correct" according to him, because that is how the render is lit? This is not even about design anymore, this is common sense; this is seeing a light bulb in front of someone and realizing it has an effect on them.
 
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Honestly. This is the internet. Try to be more original with your cop outs...

You can read what he wrote 70000 times for all I care, the meaning remains the same. He said his seven flares were not light sources (even though they are clearly radiant objects), and he said he counts light sources based upon the render. There is nothing more to read, it explains why his lighting was so backwards. In his universe, people light the sun, the sun has no effect on people. Such a philosophy is simply embarrassing from a design standpoint and it is not even a beginners mistake, I think even beginners understand how light effects objects. Yet none of it is as embarrassing as watching you and yours defending him and his outlandish statements because you don't like me. Have a little dignity. Do your friend a favor and be honest with him.

Do you not understand that the silly sig I posted with all the flares on one side is "correct" according to him, because that is how the render is lit? This is not even about design anymore, this is common sense; this is seeing a light bulb in front of someone and realizing it has an effect on them.
THE render isnt lighting the flares goddammit..
You moron..some of the flares are just behind of him and there are ONLY 2 main light sources. The flares behind him dont do shit..
 
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