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While I don't disagree that Naruto has RSM and can create Gudodama on his own, I don't understand why he didn't use them against Toneri in The Last or Momoshiki in the Boruto movie. The excuse that "Kishi didn't want him to one-shot villains" doesn't satisfy me at all. That sounds like a fanboy excuse with no facts behind it.
 

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Can you show a scan of them creating Truth-Seeking Spheres? Kaguya's does not count because it's ever-expanding and not a regular one.



1. Besides Kaguya's expanding one that is not regular, can you show this?
2. My logic? I believe you're the one talking out of your ass here. At no time did I restrict Naruto because we haven't seen any of his techniques. I restricted him because we've been suggested Truth-Seeking Spheres cannot be created.
3. I was talking about the adding of the other tailed beasts, because that's the only time he gets the full benefits of the Six Paths Sage Mode like the hosts of the ten-tails.
4. That's speculation. It doesn't matter to me anyways because I believe he has it.
Here is both Naruto and Obito creating gudodama, mangafact. :sigar:

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While I don't disagree that Naruto has RSM and can create Gudodama on his own, I don't understand why he didn't use them against Toneri in The Last or Momoshiki in the Boruto movie. The excuse that "Kishi didn't want him to one-shot villains" doesn't satisfy me at all. That sounds like a fanboy excuse with no facts behind it.
Well its true lol, same reason why sasuke didn't use Chibaku Tensei or preta path, kishi had to nerf them for plot. :sigar:
 

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Well its true lol, same reason why sasuke didn't use Chibaku Tensei or preta path, kishi had to nerf them for plot. :sigar:
I think Chibaku Tensei would have been pointless in VoTE 2 because Sasuke himself witnessed Naruto easily destroy several Chibaku Tensei meteors. The chakra cost would have made it counterproductive and he would have left himself open to attack while casting the jutsu.

Wasn't Naruto mixing Senjutsu with his Ninjutsu since he was in RSM? Preta Path wouldn't have worked against jutsus laced with natural energy like that.
 

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Here is both Naruto and Obito creating gudodama, mangafact. :sigar:

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Obito never lost his staff Truth-Seeking Sphere if I can recall therefore he gained access to it as soon as he recovered the sage chakra, and it is unknown if Naruto created that or used one he already had, which is the more likely case. Not to mention that it could just be a Tailed Beast Bomb as well.
 

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Obito never lost his staff Truth-Seeking Sphere if I can recall therefore he gained access to it as soon as he recovered the sage chakra, and it is unknown if Naruto created that or used one he already had, which is the more likely case. Not to mention that it could just be a Tailed Beast Bomb as well.
Are you serious? Obito lost his gudodama the moment the juubi was extracted from him, the manga scan literally shows him creating another after absorbing madara's Rikudou Senjutsu.

Also Naruto created that TBBSR from nothing after absorbing natural energy, tailed beast bombs don't work/look like gudodama. Bijuu Bombs are formed at the mouth and you can see negative/positive energy gather. The technique Naruto used utilize a gudodama as the core of the shuriken. :sigar:
 

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I think Chibaku Tensei would have been pointless in VoTE 2 because Sasuke himself witnessed Naruto easily destroy several Chibaku Tensei meteors. The chakra cost would have made it counterproductive and he would have left himself open to attack while casting the jutsu.

Wasn't Naruto mixing Senjutsu with his Ninjutsu since he was in RSM? Preta Path wouldn't have worked against jutsus laced with natural energy like that.
I meant after vote, like during gaiden and boruto movie. :sigar:
 

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Are you serious? Obito lost his gudodama the moment the juubi was extracted from him, the manga scan literally shows him creating another after absorbing madara's Rikudou Senjutsu.

Also Naruto created that TBBSR from nothing after absorbing natural energy, tailed beast bombs don't work/look like gudodama. Bijuu Bombs are formed at the mouth and you can see negative/positive energy gather. The technique Naruto used utilize a gudodama as the core of the shuriken. :sigar:
Yes I am serious. Truth-Seeking Spheres only activate when the Six Paths Sage Mode is activated, therefore Obito never lost his, they simply deactivated because he no longer had the mode. As for Naruto, Tailed Beast Bombs do look like that (pure black balls) and we've seen Naruto attempt to create one with his bare hands and almost complete it, except then he was much weaker/inexperienced than at his last battled with Sasuke. I'll give you that there was no indication of it being made, which is why I suggested the more likely event that Naruto used one of the Truth-Seeking Spheres he already had, and you can't prove either side of that.
 

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Yes I am serious. Truth-Seeking Spheres only activate when the Six Paths Sage Mode is activated, therefore Obito never lost his, they simply deactivated because he no longer had the mode. As for Naruto, Tailed Beast Bombs do look like that (pure black balls) and we've seen Naruto attempt to create one with his bare hands and almost complete it, except then he was much weaker/inexperienced than at his last battled with Sasuke. I'll give you that there was no indication of it being made, which is why I suggested the more likely event that Naruto used one of the Truth-Seeking Spheres he already had, and you can't prove either side of that.
Naruto formed both his rasenshuriken in kurama's arms, read the manga. Denial is a terrible thing. :sigar:
 

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Naruto formed both his rasenshuriken in kurama's arms, read the manga. Denial is a terrible thing. :sigar:
You skipped all my other points, so I'll assume you agree with them. In terms of Naruto, it doesn't matter whose arms it is. If he can create a Rasengan with his regular hands, he can do it with his avatar. The same goes for a Tailed Beast Bomb, which he had actually used chakra arms in the process of attempting it without an avatar already. To say I'm in denial is quite hypocritical. There is no solid proof of Naruto having a full set of Truth-Seeking Spheres, if any at all in his adulthood. You're in the same position.
 

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You skipped all my other points, so I'll assume you agree with them. In terms of Naruto, it doesn't matter whose arms it is. If he can create a Rasengan with his regular hands, he can do it with his avatar. The same goes for a Tailed Beast Bomb, which he had actually used chakra arms in the process of attempting it without an avatar already. To say I'm in denial is quite hypocritical. There is no solid proof of Naruto having a full set of Truth-Seeking Spheres, if any at all in his adulthood. You're in the same position.
I skipped your other remarks because they fail and aren't worth my response. You are a waste of time, obviously you can't comprehend the manga. I'm done here, believe what you want. :sigar:
 

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I skipped your other remarks because they fail and aren't worth my response. You are a waste of time, obviously you can't comprehend the manga. I'm done here, believe what you want. :sigar:
Feel free to fall back, but you could have at least used a better method of leaving. The manga doesn't prove anything you're saying because even if Naruto was using a Truth-Seeking Sphere, it does not mean he didn't use one he already had.
 
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