He wasn't next to the raikage when he tried speed blitz was he?
We know such tag team moves require equal speed from Lariat, so trends say they're equal (V1 to Darui). You could argue Raikage didn't move at full V1 speed, but he was definitely above base.
Sword play has never equalled speed, where did you get that from? That is unless he used it to overcome Suigetsu's monstrous executioner blade, like Sasuke does to cut him down.
I said it includes speed, not that it completely and utterly depends on it.
It requires dodging, reacting and swinging. All those are speed-based and speed-dependant movements. Why do I have to explain this basic stuff?
Kinkaku didn't embarrass Tobirama, Tobirama went and fought an entire unit dying in the process. How are you comparing that to using ninja tools
Twice over
Firstly duringthe kage summit witg Raikage, where Tobirama was left on the brink of death. It was an ambush, but we'd have to believe that a hyper-cautious Tobirama and a Raikagewho knew his own internal politics were completely knowledgeless on the Bros in order to not have anticipated that attack.
Even then, Tobirama being cuatious would've prepped FTG for counterattacking.
So if he was even tagged, he has to have been blitzed because anything less than a blitz, then FTG would've been used to escape the first hit and then counter attack.
Then during the death battle. Its understandable for Tobirama to have taken a few hits for a few minutes in order for Hiruzen and Danzo to escape, but actually it isn't.
Hiruzen was already Hokage level (which, in-verse, is scaled above lage level) so he wouldn't have needed much time to escape.
Secondly, if Tobirama felt three (Tobirama, Hiruzen, Danzo) Hokage level fighters with backup couldn't win aganst Gin and s Kin with fodder backup, that says Kin and Gin are super powerful compared to the trio.
Thirdly, Danzo is also Hokage level by virtue of parallelling Hiruzen. So that makes three guys (Tobirama, Hiruzen, Danzo) who are Hokage level that Tobirama felt wouldn't make a difference . . . Probably based on experience against the Gold and Silver Brothers. This lends credence to the idea that Tobirama was truly outmatched during the previous clash (where he had Raikage as ally, Raikage normally being speedsters who are difficult to ambush in their own right).
Fourthly, GSB have no special attacks, so if they killed Tobirama it has to be classic beatdown that relies on base stats.
Fianlly, 20 fodder backup should he nothing to a FTG user of even jonin level. FTG specialises in avoiding attacks then blindsiding. It literally turns an ambush against itself. Remember Minato? He's famous for fodderising 50 JOUNIN instantly because FTG.
So its only possible if Tobirama was genuinely blitzed by the GSB.
What about Ninja Tools? I didn't say anything about them?
The aliens were actually fodder, Naruto and Sasuke were nerfed for the fights. The fact a couple of Kage level ninja can match them should tell you how inferior they actually are
Someone who beats, cleanly, Sasuke in bukijutsu is not fodder. Please!
Kinkaku has no speed feats so.
Say what?
Even his ET starts off by fodderising the division before Darui and co arrive. Then there's the above.
Please get your info straight