Danzo vs the Gokage

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Why is KA not being factored?
he could use it once, but that doesnt mean that he is winnig this,
not to mention that it depends on who he uses it on, and you need to state the starting distance
and there are too many variables to consider

either way, thhe gokage would still win this
if its used on Onoki then A and Gaara can take him out
if its used on A, then any 2 kage can take him out
if its used on Gaara, then Onoki and A can take him outt
if its used on Tsunade and Mei, then any single kage can take them out

all of this can be done whilst the other kage take care of danzo
 

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he could use it once, but that doesnt mean that he is winnig this,
not to mention that it depends on who he uses it on, and you need to state the starting distance
and there are too many variables to consider

either way, thhe gokage would still win this
if its used on Onoki then A and Gaara can take him out
if its used on A, then any 2 kage can take him out
if its used on Gaara, then Onoki and A can take him outt
if its used on Tsunade and Mei, then any single kage can take them out

all of this can be done whilst the other kage take care of danzo


@Bold: Lmao XD too bad I can't rep you right now
 

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Tsunade and Mei are individaully inferior to any other kage,
therefore they would lose,

No argument there. It's still a little messed up though lol
 

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he could use it once, but that doesnt mean that he is winnig this,
not to mention that it depends on who he uses it on, and you need to state the starting distance
and there are too many variables to consider

either way, thhe gokage would still win this
if its used on Onoki then A and Gaara can take him out
if its used on A, then any 2 kage can take him out
if its used on Gaara, then Onoki and A can take him outt
if its used on Tsunade and Mei, then any single kage can take them out

all of this can be done whilst the other kage take care of danzo

Starting distance? Close enough so Danzo can use KA but far enough so he doesn't get blitzed by Ay.

I agree with most of what you said, except Onoki. If Danzo KA's Onoki he surely wins. Ay can't do anything considering Onoki is a flying opponent, and Onoki can outfly Gaara's sad (or use Added-weight Rock Technique to make the sand too heavy for Gaara to manipulate.) Plus you have to take into account that Danzo and Onoki are fighting as a team, and the characters won't be matched up just like you put them ideally.

"All this can be done while the other kage take care of Danzo" doesn't make any since because oit takes a minimum of ten minutes to take care of Danzo
 

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Starting distance? Close enough so Danzo can use KA but far enough so he doesn't get blitzed by Ay.
Lol there is no distance such as that,
A can blitz him from a distance further than the range of his KA

I agree with most of what you said, except Onoki. If Danzo KA's Onoki he surely wins. Ay can't do anything considering Onoki is a flying opponent, and Onoki can outfly Gaara's sad (or use Added-weight Rock Technique to make the sand too heavy for Gaara to manipulate.) Plus you have to take into account that Danzo and Onoki are fighting as a team, and the characters won't be matched up just like you put them ideally.
Gaara givves every other kage the flight, as Mei proceeds to overwhelm him through her large scale KKG attacks, whilst gaara constantly puts him on the defensive through his sand based attacks such as sand tsunami,
his sand bullets can also be used to daamage onoki,
Gaara can also get A and Tsuande to close the distance as they proceed to pulverise onoki, and he gets killed,

weighted boulder takes time, and onoki is not making gaaras sand heavier whilst he is in the air, its not happening, and if he does attempt to make the surrounding sand heavier by staying on the groud, then Mei uses hidden mist to weaken his vision as A proceeds to blitz him off, or Tsunade can pulverise him,

"All this can be done while the other kage take care of Danzo" doesn't make any since because oit takes a minimum of ten minutes to take care of Danzo
every indiividual kage at the very least can stall danzo, 2 or more kage can most likely beat him,
his fuutons are countered through meis yoton quite well, and baku gets eliminated as well, and her futton can boil danzo quite well, whlst she uses hidden mist to weaken his vision, tsunade can also use katsuyu, and Gaara can sink him through his sand,
and A and Tsunade to pulverise him in CQC, danzo is not beatin more tthan 2 kage, let alone the gokage
 

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Good lord, this is all out of place :mad:_@:

I never claimed that. I never mentioned flight giving them immunity.

You claimed he can fly, therefore guys like Ay and Tsunade can't touch him. Sounds to me like you're claiming he's immune to 'CQC types'.

I don't...see...why not..? Do you see the scale of that fuuton? Danzo can always use multiple air bullets...And yeah, Baku works too.

Scale? What scale? I think you're a bit lost here. The only thing that Futon packs its power, not AoE. I don't see any wide range there.
Right, now a bunch of small bullets can disperse a blinding amount of mist... Are you trolling? -.-

I was referring to the second time Mu was charging jinton, not the first. Gaara couldn't reach Mu in time with his sand, so he made a sand platform for Naruto instead - who proceeded to use an extended chakra arm to nail Mu with a rasengan.

The objective wasn't Muu. God.
The platform was for Naruto, he was the closest one. Why would he charge recklessly when there was a much more viable option availuable?

Deidara was easily outmaneuvering Gaara's sand attacks on his clay bird over and over again. Deidara on his bird was barely keeping up with Onoki, and even commented on Onoki's speed [x]

Yet this happened to Deidara ( ) And its known that the sand's weight affects Gaara's control over it ( )( ) Plus, bigger moves take more chakra as well (i can't find the viz translation, but quoting from Gaara during the SRA: "I've done too many big moves. Chakra is getting precious.")
These could've easily been a factor against Deidara. He still managed to catch Deidara nonetheless and its not like he'd need to use such a large amount of sand in this match.

Don't go down that route. 'Inconsistencies' like this are everywhere. When a character lacks speed there're other factors to make up for it.

May I ask why not? Baku imprecisely sucks in everything in its path, it will suck up three kage, or twenty, just as easily as one. Mei spitting lava at Baku isn't an option since she will be whirling in the air towards it and in the confusion not be able to make hand seals (her hand seal speed is extremely slow, she couldn't even react to Madara's katon. Twice.) at Katsuyu spitting acid, will Tsunade have time to summon the slug, tell Katsuyu what to do, and have her spit acid while she's whirling and tumbling through the air to her death? What's more, the acid is very slow and couldn't even hit a giant target like Manda.

Now Baku sucks characters alone? Nice joke. How do you explain Danzo walking just fine? Shinobi can adhere to surfaces with chakra you know? His job is to paralyze the enemy and enhance Danzo's Futon, not to eat his opponents.
Its gives Danzo one free shot because that's what happened in canon. He shoots one jutsu and the enemy has the opportunity to counter attack. The kages are not dumb, if there's a counter they'll use it.

Now Mei can't make hand seals because she's confused? Lol
Yeah, she's so slow that when Madara shot one giant Katon jutsu he got blasted with two giant Suiton jutsus. She only failed to counter attack when she was affected by the polen and when she was tired, but of course selective memory and the clear bias ignore all these facts.

Sasuke had time to summon Manda, genjutsu him and hide inside his mouth while wounded and all in the midst of an explosion. This possibility isn't crazier than that.
Danzo is not a machine, in this manga characters don't spam. He sees a giant slug popping in the battlefield and he'll need to be wary of it for the same reason that Sasuke had to be wary of Baku, which is what allowed Danzo to have a free shot and what could allow Tsunade to order Katsuyu to spit some acid.
Wow, Katsuyu failed to hit a summon whose main feature is its agility. What a surprise, so slow. She doesn't even need to aim, the acid will go right into Baku due to his suction. But of course this was ignored by you >_>

Prove to me that he cannot use the seal with izanagi activated. I'm waiting.

He could've spammed all he wanted against Sasuke. It didn't happen. How hard it is to accept this?
I don't need to prove anything. The manga doesn't support that possibility at all. Its utterly absurd.

I DON'T KNOW WHY HE DIDN'T SPAM IT AGAINST SASUKE. THAT DOESN'T MEAN HE CAN'T. I don't consider myself a "hardcore Danzo fan", I like the character but I acknowledge he isn't the smartest when it comes to the intelligence department.

Honestly the real issue for me is that Danzo is probably too dumb to spam his suicide technique. He didn't do it against Sasuke, so he probably won't do it here. Maybe he would be more likely to do it if he was facing multiple opponents? Nonetheless, I'm not basing my argument off the notion that Danzo can be a spamming suicide bomber. He can do it, but most likely he won't. So I'd like to stop arguing over this point.

Great, now Danzo is dumb because you don't get how things work -.-

This is not like claiming the elders can't jump because they never did it. That seal only activates at the time of his death. His real death. Its not meant to be a dueling weapon, its a last ditch effort.
Understand this.
 
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