Danzo talked about Hashirama, Hiruzen, Minato and Tsunade but what about Tobirama ?

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Danzo gave his opinion about every Hokage that he knew, except one, Tobirama Senju. Paradoxally it would have been the most interesting Danzo's point of view about a Hokage, because many fans believe Danzo was a follower of Tobirama, but we lack of strong evidences, none words about Tobirama.

There are Danzo's opinions about Hokage :

- Hashirama : Too soft, the creator of the softness ideology from Konoha. But Danzo in the fillers episode considered him as also extremly powerful and military very useful for Konoha. Basically Yamato project was to create another Hashirama, but brainwashed to be a war machine and not as peaceful than the true one.

- Hiruzen : Too soft. Inherited of Hashirama's softness.

- Minato ( fillers ) : He is popular, so his appointment is normal. And when he contradicted Hiruzen about the Hokage choice, he never said Minato was too soft, or too weak, but too young. It was his only counter argument. ( I think here Danzo thought that Minato as popular Hokage was a good thing, while him and Orochimaru could continue their shadow working. Danzo probably thought that he needed a popular official figure, in order to preserve Konoha reputation, while him could continue his dirty job. At this Time, Danzo didn't want to become Hokage, just be the shadow Hokage. )

- Tsunade : Too soft. Inherited of Hashirama's and Hiruzen's softness.

We lacked an opportunity to learn Danzo's opinion about Tobirama. It was when he met Tsunade in his office to talk about Sai as replacement of Sasuke. He talked to Tsunade like " Yes, I hope you won't be like your soft Grand father ". But I would have liked to see him say " instead, you should follow your Grand Uncle ".

Tobirama was the darkest Hokage, the closest Hokage to Danzo in term of policy. The one that Orochimaru himself respected the most. I am very curious to learn his point of view about Tonirama. Naruto lore is very interesting.

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He was a critic, so he wouldn't have much to say about the man who was most similar to him.

Even if he wanted to talk, aligning himself with Tobirama explicitly would create an opening for him to be criticized because of how Tobirama poorly handled the Uchiha and invented techniques that would soon be used against Konoha, such as the Edo Tensei used by Orochimaru.
 
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He was a critic, so he wouldn't have much to say about the man who was most similar to him.

Even if he wanted to talk, aligning himself with Tobirama explicitly would create an opening for him to be criticized because of how Tobirama poorly handled the Uchiha and invented techniques that would soon be used against Konoha, such as the Edo Tensei used by Orochimaru.
" because of how Tobirama poorly handled the Uchiha "

In the fillers episode, when Danzo said that Uchiha special policy was Tobirama's will so no matter if they are isolated from the village center ( Danzo said this in order to justify his plan to relocate the Uchiha ) , Hiruzen answered that Tobirama cared about every clan and not only the Uchiha. So Hiruzen and the elders didn't saw Tobirama as anti Uchiha.

" invented techniques that would soon be used against Konoha, such as the Edo Tensei used by Orochimaru. "

First, Danzo can accuse Hiruzen to be responsible of this. Because actually it's Hiruzen's fault. How the hell a 12 years old genin is able to find and steal the most top secret document of Konoha ? Then, Danzo would say that all forbidden jutsu created by Tobirama benefited to Konoha and are strategic weapon, and again, if guys like Orochimaru or Kabuto use Edo Tensei, it's mainly Hiruzen's fault.
 

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toribama should have let madara become hokage...it's all his fault..
Basically, Madara was the spiritual ancestor of Danzo.

Madara and Danzo are very similar. Both value strong and brutal actions, and their leadership tend to be totalitarian. They also wanted to rule the Shinobi world through Konoha, by making Konoha the first shinobi power.

What Madara did to Mu and Onoki, under Hashirama's back, was exactly the same type of actions Danzo did, like for example his alliance with Hanzo.

Madara as 1st Hokage, would have collected the 9 Bijuu and submitted the entire world under Konoha feet. Madara would have been a violent and totalitarian leader, especially as an Uchiha, because Madara was very affected by the cursed circle ( more hatred, more power, more hatred, more power, more hatred, more power ect... ).

Tobirama was totally right to no let him become Hokage.
 

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" because of how Tobirama poorly handled the Uchiha "

In the fillers episode, when Danzo said that Uchiha special policy was Tobirama's will so no matter if they are isolated from the village center ( Danzo said this in order to justify his plan to relocate the Uchiha ) , Hiruzen answered that Tobirama cared about every clan and not only the Uchiha. So Hiruzen and the elders didn't saw Tobirama as anti Uchiha.

" invented techniques that would soon be used against Konoha, such as the Edo Tensei used by Orochimaru. "

First, Danzo can accuse Hiruzen to be responsible of this. Because actually it's Hiruzen's fault. How the hell a 12 years old genin is able to find and steal the most top secret document of Konoha ? Then, Danzo would say that all forbidden jutsu created by Tobirama benefited to Konoha and are strategic weapon, and again, if guys like Orochimaru or Kabuto use Edo Tensei, it's mainly Hiruzen's fault.
Remember Mizuki?

Apparently, getting secret documents is quite easy.

Otherwise, Hiruzen isn't gonna blame his teacher when he clearly loved him.

They could certainly go back and forth, but the fact remains Tobirama has some black spots on his record.
 
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