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My lord there are a slew of idiots in this thread XD
Sasuke only won because of Plot-No-Jutsu.

Danzo > Ms Sasuke

Untill he is shown capable of defeating KA

Danzo > EMS Sasuke
 

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Sure Danzo can One Shot with KA

But that's like saying Itachi One Shots Kabuto with Izanami, again. :snick:

Or Tsukuyomi One Shots Minato. :snick:


Or Totsuka Blade One Shots Orochimaru, again.:snick:
Or that Kabuto one-shotted Itachi with Chakra Scalpel :/

Sorry HiddenSound, but..

Sasuke > Danzo

Just because Tobi and Karin were there doesn't mean Sasuke had an unfair advantage. Had they not been there, you don't know how the battle would have ended, and you can never know.
Danzo was holding back for Tobi. He had to preserve his real strength for that.
No one helped him. Tobi didn't move a muscle until he got to the bridge and all he did was tell Sasuke to move away. Karin said things that Sasuke had already figured out. Danzo lost. Get over it.
So show me the manga page where Obito helped Sasuke besides telling him to move away. And show me the pages where Karin told Sasuke things that he didn't already know. I'll wait.
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Karin helps him
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Danzo says he needs to save his strength
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Karin helps again
After all, Sasuke caught Danzo with very basic Sharingan Genjutsu.
Point?
 

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KA was inactive until 2 seconds before the end of the fight. What was he holding back? He lost every sharingan he had, his arm was ripped off, and he was almost out of chakra. How can you even say he was holding back anything at that point?
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Obito clearly states that Dnzo is conserving his chakra. What do you suppose the reason for that is, if not to spare some energy to face the other dangerous criminal who'll come after you if you win against Sasuke ?

Then of course, if you're not convinced, there's always this page:

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That's what I've been saying since ever. Consider that even though in that situation(Tobi's presence, saving his best tech), he was able to get a give Sasuke a fatal injury. The only reason Sasuke lived is because of Karin. If Tobi wasn't there at all, Sasuke would've probably lost.
 

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Please how KA means sure defeat.
And don't say KA to kill himself, that won't work.
And why wouldn't it? KA plants phantom memories into the target with a very broad order code. For example, "protect Konoha" was the code Itachi put in. "Kill yourself" would be a code Danzo could put in.
 

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Or that Kabuto one-shotted Itachi with Chakra Scalpel :/


Danzo was holding back for Tobi. He had to preserve his real strength for that.


Karin helps him
Danzo says he needs to save his strength

Karin helps again


Point?
Sasuke is watching Danzo in the second picture so she's just reinforcing the fact that Danzo is attacking. And the first page, Sasuke has MS on so he an clearly see that that's the real Danzo at the time. Danzo can't beat Sasuke because he tried to save his strength but ended up using all of it and still lost. Stop trying to use the cop out of Obito to prove that Danzo can win when in the end he lost.
 
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Look at this page

Obito clearly states that Dnzo is conserving his chakra. What do you suppose the reason for that is, if not to spare some energy to face the other dangerous criminal who'll come after you if you win against Sasuke ?
Then of course, if you're not convinced, there's always this page

The first page is disingenuous because Obito was using it in the context of having to fight against Sasuke. Danzo already said that Karin wasn't worth shit at the beginning of the fight. He couldn't release Izanagi because of Sasuke's arrows. No one forced him to use his right eye at the summit so he still would've had that problem if it was just Sasuke there. And even though he said he had to conserve chakra he decided to bet it all on minute.
 

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Sasuke is watching Danzo in the second picture so she's just reinforcing the fact that Danzo is attacking. And the first page, Sasuke has MS on so he an clearly see that that's the real Danzo at the time. Danzo can't beat Sasuke because he tried to save his strength but ended up using all of it and still lost. Stop trying to use the cop out of Obito to prove that Danzo can win when in the end he lost.
Danzo said he had to hold back. I've given proof that Karin was helping Sasuke. I've given proof that his KA started working again but Obito's presence saved Sasuke, and still you deny it? Wow.
Danzo;s KA would beat anyone
The only to people I can see beating KA is Hashirama because he's Hashirama. He managed to resist Edo Tensei through sheer will, I don't see why that wouldn't affect KA, and the Sage because he's the Sage.
 

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I enjoy how everyone acts as if they know everything. If "Madara" wasn't there, how can you be sure that he would've just used KA? Wouldn't he then be thinking to save KA for After he fought Sasuke thus still forcing him to use up Izanagi and all those Sharingan eyes rendering him useless regardless?

No one can say, "Oh well if Tobi wasn't there, Danzo would've just used Shisui's eye." Nah, not too sure about that because he'd of had to wait YET again for that eye to work again and by that time he could've run into Tobi with no working Shisui eye and no extra Sharingans to use Izanagi with.
 

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I don't think Danzo could use KA. I mean, if he could, wouldn't he have used it against Obito when he was cornered? I think he took Karin as a hostage to by time. Either way, it would be a tie for Danzo at best because he was close to death. Obito himself said that.
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I don't think Danzo could use KA. I mean, if he could, wouldn't he have used it against Obito when he was cornered? I think he took Karin as a hostage to by time. Either way, it would be a tie for Danzo at best because he was close to death. Obito himself said that.
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Close to death is not dead. Hashirama was pretty close to death but he still beat Madara. Anyway, he didn't know when Sasuke would strike. KAing Tobi with Sasuke right there would probably not go as planned. Plus it would take Tobi a bit to get to Sasuke and Danzo, it mught have been too late. That, and Karin would have blown the whistle on Tobi, snapping him out of KA.
 

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you assume too much about Danzo's KA. How would you know that Danzo's KA works the same as Shisui's? Kakashi may have Obito's eye, but his Kamui is nowhere near as powerful.
 

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Of course danzo wins with KA. And lol at all these people saying KA might not work on sasuke. It worked on itachi's MS and itachi himself stated it would work on sasuke's EMS.
 

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So now Danzo can use KA at Shisui's level, when this logic has been refuted time and time again through Madara's use of Mokuton, Nagato's Rinnegan, and Kakashi's Sharingan? Nice logic you have there. He used up all his eyes for Izanagi - the technique used by the sage - together with his chakra supply, yet he was holding back? Makes a lot of sense.
 
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