Danzo is not Dead!

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I really don't believe this but um... I've read this from another forum and this guy giving this theory somehow gives good points so I want to know what people in NB think!

Here is the Theory (its a bit long as you can see!)
In the manga where Sasuke fights Danzo, we see that Danzo keeps preserving his chakra. It can be presumed that he just did not want to waste even a teeny bit on Karin, but Madara who has been observing quietly comments that he must be preserving it for "something".



That "something" is revealed to be the intention to deal with Madara.



Now, isn't it strange that he keeps thinking about Shisui's eyes, telling himself that it is the only way he can fight Madara, and then dies without giving anyone as much as a glimpse of its powers. It is unlikely that a shinobi relies on a super haxxed jutsu and dies not even making an attempt to use it as a last resort.

Later we see Madara over Danzo's body saying that he destroyed Shisui's eye while trying to Suicide bomb him and Sasuke. A possible theory is that Danzou used his trump card, some kind of uber-genjutsu like Koto Amatsumi to fool two top class uchiha's of his death.

In this panel, when all is lost, Danzo opens his right eye.



I suspect around this time he cast his Genjutsu on the two ninja and one kunoichi present. There is some kind of confusion in the page above, and the one next to it. As soon as Danzo uses Shisui's eye, Madara comments that he used it to make a shunshin-like move, thus wasting it, like all the Izanagis he wasted.



But I think at this moment. The genjutsu had already been cast. Remembers that Shisui's Genjutsu is so powerful that its victims aren't even aware that they are being victimized.

Two issues remain to be addressed.

1. Madara standing over Danzo's corpse and saying he destroyed Shisui's eye.

Medical experts of the Hidden Cloud, including their Kage and best sensor (as he is "C", I presume he is tops after "A" and "B(ee)"), were fooled by Kisame's "death" which turned out to be just an ordinary decapitated Zetsu. Since Danzo had Shodai's cells, and had experimented and transplanted his body to such an extent that he could perform rare and forbidden sharingan techniques, I presume, he should be capable of pulling off the Zetsu trick as well.

2. Root members find out that their curse mark has disappeared.

Shisui's genjutsu is powerful enough to fool a high ranking forbidden curse/jutsu as the Edo Tensei. I assume it might be pwoerful enough to erase any evidence of his life (i.e without him actually dying) and even "fool" the tongue curse marks into disappearing.
We are finally done, if you read it now please give you views and thoughts.
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the curse mark disappearance cannot be explained by shisui's technique....but i do believ that shisui's eyes are not destroyed^^
 

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originally posted by Shisuisama:good points but he died, hints the reason his seal activated, it only activates upon the users death
also once you use that seal you are done for (it is almost guaranteed that you will die)
 

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2. Root members find out that their curse mark has disappeared.

Shisui's genjutsu is powerful enough to fool a high ranking forbidden curse/jutsu as the Edo Tensei. I assume it might be pwoerful enough to erase any evidence of his life (i.e without him actually dying) and even "fool" the tongue curse marks into disappearing.
what should have been said here is that danzo delibratly released the curse mark to make his death more believable. lolz

to bad that i dont believe that danzo is alive, coz what would be the point of showing danzo's life flashing before his eyes before his death? i would say that'll be a waste of time and money. and plus, what would danzo do if he were still alive? he'll probebly die for real!
 

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It's just wishful thinking. The person who made that theory is just searching for things to back his theory up and as a result is interpreting things in his favour.

Danzo is dead and that's 99% sure, that 1% is just because you can never be sure till the manga is finished.

1: Why would Danzo fake his own death? To escape from Madara and Sasuke? Very unlikely but still possible, however why is he faking his own death for everyone else too? This is a humongous plothole in his theory. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Where is he now then? On vacation? On top of that why would Kishi have given him a flashback about him and Hiruzen, a fitting last panel before his death, to let him eventually survive then? Makes no sense. That person makes an analogy with Kisame, however when Kisame "died" the first time he just shmirked. When Kisame died for real then he too was given a flashback as a last panel and then died.

2: He makes a complete incorrect analysis of Shisui's powers. Shisui's powers are very "popular" with the ninja's, Danzo rated it higher than Izanagi, however the maker is just assuming a lot of things that are not proven nor are there even hints that it could be like that. He says that Danzo didn't try it, well it was clearly stated that he needed it for Madara, if he actually would have been able to cast it on multiple persons, he would have done it instantly. But you can't do something you just can't do, especially not because it was already stated that it's not a jutsu that can be used often nor very long. Danzo didn't expect of Sasuke to pierce Karin, so there was no reason for to already to use Shisui's eye completely "as a last resort". On top of that Madara was far away from Danzo. How the hell are you going to place a Sharingan master, along side two other people, under a genjutsu while he's standing so far away.

3: His issues are also useless and utter BS. Yamato has also the Shodai's cell's, but he can't start using Zetsu clones now can he. Also Yamato has way better control over his powers than Danzo, so how would Danzo be able to use it? Not to mention that Zetsu can copy people's chakra by absorbing it and then make a special clone out of it. When would Danzo have done that while Madara was continously watching along side Sasuke, also a Sharingan master and Karin who's a master sensor. It's not possible, on top of that he should also have placed that sealing jutsu on the clone. His arguments are not cohesive. Because he has the shodai's cells he must be able to use that trick? That's nothing more than a gamble, especially because Danzo doesn't have much power of the Shodai's cells.

4: Erase his existence of life? Once again that's BS as why is he trying to make him appear death towards the entire world, even his subordinates? On top of that a genjutsu can't remove the seals, whether you see them or not they're still there and they're still active. It's nearly impossible that no one noticed that, also how is it possible, Shusui's eyes or not, to affect countless of people who are miles away with a genjutsu o_o that's just bull, that's what Madara is trying to do and for that he needs the Juubi =/

Danzo is dead, that entire theory makes no sense, is full of plotholes, gambles and wrong assumptions. The reason as why Shusui's eyes are so powerful is because it fools the person mind, which is different from a normal genjutsu, which fools the sense. However as a result you need to continously change the way it is used as for instance to fool Karin's mind you need to make it so that her sensoring skills would not notice it, while for Sasuke and Madara it would require a differetn approach. This is beyond Danzo's skill, if Danzo was able to do that, he would have tried it instantly and he wouldn't need to fake his own death. That's the largest contradiction in that entire theory. He's saying Danzo faked his own death because he tried to use Shusui's eye so hard and then apparantly failed, so his theory is then that he succeeded, but if that eye was so strong, why would he fake his own death while he could kill Madara and Sasuke?

This theory is bull, it contradicts itself.
 

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It's just wishful thinking. The person who made that theory is just searching for things to back his theory up and as a result is interpreting things in his favour.

Danzo is dead and that's 99% sure, that 1% is just because you can never be sure till the manga is finished.

1: Why would Danzo fake his own death? To escape from Madara and Sasuke? Very unlikely but still possible, however why is he faking his own death for everyone else too? This is a humongous plothole in his theory. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Where is he now then? On vacation? On top of that why would Kishi have given him a flashback about him and Hiruzen, a fitting last panel before his death, to let him eventually survive then? Makes no sense. That person makes an analogy with Kisame, however when Kisame "died" the first time he just shmirked. When Kisame died for real then he too was given a flashback as a last panel and then died.

2: He makes a complete incorrect analysis of Shisui's powers. Shisui's powers are very "popular" with the ninja's, Danzo rated it higher than Izanagi, however the maker is just assuming a lot of things that are not proven nor are there even hints that it could be like that. He says that Danzo didn't try it, well it was clearly stated that he needed it for Madara, if he actually would have been able to cast it on multiple persons, he would have done it instantly. But you can't do something you just can't do, especially not because it was already stated that it's not a jutsu that can be used often nor very long. Danzo didn't expect of Sasuke to pierce Karin, so there was no reason for to already to use Shisui's eye completely "as a last resort". On top of that Madara was far away from Danzo. How the hell are you going to place a Sharingan master, along side two other people, under a genjutsu while he's standing so far away.

3: His issues are also useless and utter BS. Yamato has also the Shodai's cell's, but he can't start using Zetsu clones now can he. Also Yamato has way better control over his powers than Danzo, so how would Danzo be able to use it? Not to mention that Zetsu can copy people's chakra by absorbing it and then make a special clone out of it. When would Danzo have done that while Madara was continously watching along side Sasuke, also a Sharingan master and Karin who's a master sensor. It's not possible, on top of that he should also have placed that sealing jutsu on the clone. His arguments are not cohesive. Because he has the shodai's cells he must be able to use that trick? That's nothing more than a gamble, especially because Danzo doesn't have much power of the Shodai's cells.

4: Erase his existence of life? Once again that's BS as why is he trying to make him appear death towards the entire world, even his subordinates? On top of that a genjutsu can't remove the seals, whether you see them or not they're still there and they're still active. It's nearly impossible that no one noticed that, also how is it possible, Shusui's eyes or not, to affect countless of people who are miles away with a genjutsu o_o that's just bull, that's what Madara is trying to do and for that he needs the Juubi =/

Danzo is dead, that entire theory makes no sense, is full of plotholes, gambles and wrong assumptions. The reason as why Shusui's eyes are so powerful is because it fools the person mind, which is different from a normal genjutsu, which fools the sense. However as a result you need to continously change the way it is used as for instance to fool Karin's mind you need to make it so that her sensoring skills would not notice it, while for Sasuke and Madara it would require a differetn approach. This is beyond Danzo's skill, if Danzo was able to do that, he would have tried it instantly and he wouldn't need to fake his own death. That's the largest contradiction in that entire theory. He's saying Danzo faked his own death because he tried to use Shusui's eye so hard and then apparantly failed, so his theory is then that he succeeded, but if that eye was so strong, why would he fake his own death while he could kill Madara and Sasuke?

This theory is bull, it contradicts itself.
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You don't need to, the fact that it's long enough for you not getting into the mood to read that shizzle means it's true by default. True story.
As you use your wall of text no jutsu i use:

Lazy no jutsu
Rank: N/a
Type: Lazy
Range: All
Chakra Cost: none
Damage Points: None
Description: The user is too lazy to read and just chills.

You win this round *shakes fist*
 
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