Danzo and the Kyuubi incident. What really happened....

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Please, Danzo was never about "flashy" announcements or pretentious
On his death he was serious about killing his enemies that are a threat to the shinobi world.
He is not saying flashy things, he has NO audience, he is by himself, against his enemies.
Danzo was always about big speeches. Even in his own flashback. Try and see if you can even understand this:

You're operating under the premise that all people are honest at their death. Danzo never gave up (I'll give him that) His words were just like his 'suicidal' explosion: A desperate act meant to cause as mush damage as possible. He's the kind of guy who wants the last laugh. He cannot accept a world that is not under his terms so he fabricates through lies to gives himself control, even at death.
 
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Wow I am surprised to what extent people interpret Danzos death, give him 0% credit for his goal of killing tobi.

We give minato credit for trying to kill tobi
We give konan credit for trying to kill tobi

But...Danzo..yea fukk him, he a douche
 

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Wow I am surprised to what extent people interpret Danzos death, give him 0% credit for his goal of killing tobi.

We give minato credit for trying to kill tobi
We give konan credit for trying to kill tobi

But...Danzo..yea fukk him, he a douche
But he never tried to kill Tobi or Sasuke. I thought I made that clear in my thread about Danzo.

Danzo ran away from the summit when Sasuke looked at him(lol). Then later, Obito hunted him down at the bridge and forced Danzo to defend himself against Sasuke after defeating his underlings. Danzo was running back to his underground base in Konoha, he did nothing.
 

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But he never tried to kill Tobi or Sasuke. I thought I made that clear in my thread about Danzo.

Danzo ran away from the summit when Sasuke looked at him(lol). Then later, Obito hunted him down at the bridge and forced Danzo to defend himself against Sasuke after defeating his underlings. Danzo was running back to his underground base in Konoha, he did nothing.
What about after he was done running?
"I have to save enough for Madara"

Takes karin hostage "this girl is a sacrifice for the world, there are things I need to do with my power (kill madara)"

Runs for his life to even try to have a chance to defeat Madara

Im glad he died by sasuke though, as he deserved it
 

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What about after he was done running?
"I have to save enough for Madara"

Takes karin hostage "this girl is a sacrifice for the world, there are things I need to do with my power (kill madara)"

Runs for his life to even try to have a chance to defeat Madara
I have to honestly ask you this question after reading that.....

Are you stupid and/or retarded?
 

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Dude I agree Danzo is a douche, but you have to admit he tried to kill Tobi
Give the man some credit, thats how he died, thats what he lived for
No, he was trying to survive. He only lived for himself, to make himself the indefinite dictator of the shinobi world, and if that wasn't possible, then just Konoha.

He was the worst person to ever live in NV, aside from Orochimaru.
 

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No, he was trying to survive. He only lived for himself, to make himself the indefinite dictator of the shinobi world, and if that wasn't possible, then just Konoha.

He was the worst person to ever live in NV, aside from Orochimaru.
You are right, he was planning to dictate all of shinobi world if possible, all through his power he gains
He is like a mini Madara
But Madara is still a bigger threat than him
 

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What would Danzo gain from the Kyuubi incident?

Both the Kage's, the current(Minato) and the former(Hiruzen), dead. Afterwards, Obito would just take the Kyuubi with him, leaving Danzo to take control of Konoha.

In case Obito failed, The Uchiha Clan's loyalty would still be brought into question by Shimura Danzo.

But why would Obito help Danzo?

Danzo's alliance with Hanzo, caused Yahiko's death, which paved the way for Nagato's manipulation by Obito. Obito's biggest roadblock(Yahiko) was removed that night, thanks to Danzo. Which makes me question Obito's motives for attacking Konoha with the Kyuubi, it all seems like another Danzo orchestrated attack for a favor, which he performed by causing Yahiko's death without any suspicion falling on Obito, and all the blame automatically going only to Hanzo and Danzo.


Which brings us to our next topic, the Uchiha massacre, which was ultimately caused by, that's right, the Kyuubi incident. And Danzo got rid of the Uchiha, a problem for him in case he became Hokage, and got a buttload of Sharingan for his Izanagi.

He went behind Hiruzen's back and got into Itachi's head by carefully using his love for Sasuke and forcing Itachi to act out of desperation, Hiruzen was contemplating a solution, and he didn't look too worried about the Uchiha(sitting there smoking his pipe).

Who knows, he might have even made Itachi the Hokage and ended the feud right there.

But Danzo didnt let it happen. He wanted to avoid a peaceful solution, Danzo even went as far as snatching out Shisui's eye when Shisui offered to end it with Koto Amatsukami.

Is it possible? I think so. But it is still speculation and not fact. Not yet.

A fact that does strengthen my theory, is that Obito mentions meeting Danzo on the night of the Uchiha Clan massacre(where they both gained all their extra Sharingan), just before he summons Sasuke to get his revenge on him.
Marvelous, couldn't agree more! :):eek::)
 
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