Damn, if u really think about it, Obito's intention was to solo the world

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Madara's name was instrumental in starting the war. Without using the name, Obito never would have done what he did.

what is it with certain people and their faves having duckbutt hair? sasuke and noctis lol.

Why man, I am not allowed to have favs? That hurt my feelings ....
 

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wuuut. madara showed up day two after the edos, zetsu chakra clones and army killed 40,000. i wonder how many are left on both sides?
he stood around during juubito and played with hashi.

Essentially Obito killed like 20, 000 (Kabuto probably killed at least half the casualties with his Edos). Madara wiped out at least 10, 000 fodders, as well as the 5 Kage, 9 Bijus, Gai and Sasuke, they are not even comparable.
 

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Okay there you go I was making the arguement why Obito can't and even if he would had won the war and conquer the world, he can't say he solo'd the world.

You are underrating Madara's name. He was made to believe the strongest in Shinobi history. Would want to go to a fight with a person who you have no idea of his fighting skills or do you want to go to a fight with Chuck Lidel. And you are fighting 5 people

Well either way this guy was behind a criminal organization of S-Rank Bijuu hunters and had 7 said Bijuu on a leash. I said Madara's name was powerful, but you're not understanding is they had no choice but to accept war either way. He had 7 Bijuus...
The Bijuu = the cake
Madara's name = the icing
 

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Well either way this guy was behind a criminal organization of S-Rank Bijuu hunters and had 7 said Bijuu on a leash. I said Madara's name was powerful, but you're not understanding is they had no choice but to accept war either way. He had 7 Bijuus...
The Bijuu = the cake
Madara's name = the icing

I agree, but he would have none of that if he didn't use the most feared shinobi's name in NV at the time.

Cake = Madara's name since he got the Akatsuki with the power of the name.

The Icing = Bijuu

or

Say Madara name was the foundation of the house.
 
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konan said he was just kinda riding akatsukis coattails. and he was guiding nagato but with other intentions. as long as he had all that info it shouldnt have mattered.
a guy with a nuke is scary, hitler with a nuke is even worse, but if hitlers weak it just makes him unpredictable. :p

even minato aknowledged his power and said it didnt matter who he was. he controlled yagura without madaras name.
 
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I agree, but he would have none of that if he didn't use the most feared shinobi's name in NV at the time.

Cake = Madara's name since he got the Akatsuki with the power of the name.

The Icing = Bijuu

or

Say Madara name was the foundation of the house.

You know what happened the first time Obito used Madara's name?

He got threatened by yahiko...

There is power in Madara's name, but you need to walk the walk if you're doing all the talking.

"So why did the Kages heeded to all that talk?"

Because he has already walked before preaching...

His feats, His power, and his ideal is what made people to believe he is Madara.

Madara told Obito that he left everyting for him, power, knowledge, and complete faith that he will go through his plan due to his personality.

Obito made it clear that he can't take on the five nation with his power alone, but with the addition seven bijuus I'm his disposal he was feeling pretty confident.

With decoy white zetsu and black zetsu on recon mission, he pretty much had it planned.

Black zetsu made the assurance that he will win.

The Edo tensei still lost to the alliance, yet he was still able to become juubi jinchuuriki.
 
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What villian55 is trying to say is that without Obito using the name Madara throughout the anime and manga, he wouldnt be where he is now. Like if he said his name was Obito nobody would have been intimidated by it. But, when he uses Madara everyone got scared, and felt he was a huge threat. Anddd with the Akatsuki forming, same thing. Basically without Obito saying his name was Madara, nobody wouldve felt anxious, only like who is that?
 

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Obito is a fodder. Get over it. Noone misses him but Naruto, and he's already over it XD
 

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What villian55 is trying to say is that without Obito using the name Madara throughout the anime and manga, he wouldnt be where he is now. Like if he said his name was Obito nobody would have been intimidated by it. But, when he uses Madara everyone got scared, and felt he was a huge threat. Anddd with the Akatsuki forming, samYeYes thing. Basically without Obito saying his name was Madara, nobody wouldve felt anxious, only like who is that?

Exactly, thank you.
 

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he would have gotten himself solo'ed if not for kabuto and edo tensins
 

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Like always obito>>>>>naruto erse
 

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Without Kabuto's intervention, Obito would have been dead ages ago.

All Kabuto did was bring back the guy who would make it harder, and temporarily distract the alliance. The Zetsu's where going fine with the transformation, and would have soloed if not for naruto.
 

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If Kishi was not the writer of this story and this was real life. Someone like Obito would not declare a war and foreshadow a army from Kabuto.
 

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The white Zetsu would have took down the alliance if it weren't for Naruto.

the purpose of the wz chakra clones was to lure out naruto. and kill shinobi of course.

they were left in chaos. it was great
 

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thats like saying naruto wouldnt have what he has without jaraiya. (since madara is the anti jaraiya)

obito said he was from an organization devoted to the rinnegan. what does that have to do or matter with madara? just saying.

Whether he said he was from a rinnegan organisation or not doesn't change the fact that he introduced himself as Madara right before saying that. Naruto didn't go around saying he is Jiraiya, that's the difference.
 

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One can talk a lot of shit and get away with it if they are under Madara's name.
 

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What do you mean you're taking that away? What is that?
Nagato and "Madara's" plans were entirely different. Obviously Nagato didn't care what the masked man called himself, it was his philosophy and his power that kept him in line. A bit more than a name, right?

You're right in saying that Nagato didn't care what the masked man said, since Nagato was implied to have known that Tobi wasn't Madara. Remember that right after Nagato's death Tobi said he had been betrayed and that Nagato was supposed to use rinnei tensei for his sake. Which means that Nagato knew he would have to use rinnei tensei to ressurrect Madara. Also, when Madara arrived on the battlefield, Obito said that Nagato had betrayed them, which means that Nagato knew about the plan and was part of it, even though I guess he intended to betray them and was looking for a way out the whole time, and eventually found that way out when he met Naruto.
 
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