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Solo the world is too mainstream, kaguya done it.
He and his power solo kaguya now.
He and his power solo kaguya now.
Right on. Also it was Madara's Plan not Fodderbito's.
How did it started? Oh yeah from him using the name Madara, how did Akatsuki started? By the name Madara Uchiha. He would not be what he was without that name
How did it started? Oh yeah from him using the name Madara, how did Akatsuki started? By the name Madara Uchiha. He would not be what he was without that name
would it have even mattered if obito used madaras name or not to the ame orphans? he still knew about the rinnegan and used nagato. he could just be tobi instead *shrugs* its not like nagato was a madara fanboy. and obito hid away behind them. he wasnt known by many. even kisame knew he wasnt madara..
Wrong on both counts.
Black Zetsu started Akatsuki.
And the war "did started" by Akatsuki having 7 Bijuus. Don't get the icing confused with the cake.
He wouldn't have that if it wasn't for Madara's name.
I'm taking that away though, I said he wouldn't have the Akatsuki help without Madara's name. So Obito didn't go around with him saying he was Madara Uchiha?
thats like saying naruto wouldnt have what he has without jaraiya. (since madara is the anti jaraiya)
obito said he was from an organization devoted to the rinnegan. what does that have to do or matter with madara? just saying.
He wouldn't have that if it wasn't for Madara's name.
I'm taking that away though, I said he wouldn't have the Akatsuki help without Madara's name. So Obito didn't go around with him saying he was Madara Uchiha?
So Naruto took Jiriya's name?
The word "solo" has to do with what im coming from. Just saying
What do you mean you're taking that away? What is that?
Nagato and "Madara's" plans were entirely different. Obviously Nagato didn't care what the masked man called himself, it was his philosophy and his power that kept him in line. A bit more than a name, right?
the power and knowledge.. and jaraiya was following naruto around to protect him. same as a name.
Correct, but what about the rest of the Akatsuki? Obito did recruit some under the name Madara correct? The name itself was powerful. Nagato and Madara plans were to bring peace.
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He recruited Kisame under the name Madara, but, like Nagato, it was his philosophy that stuck to Kisame, not his name. He forced Itachi to join, but Itachi didn't care about who he was, he cared about what he was doing. Other than them, Tobi has never been shown to recruit other Akatsuki.
Nagato and Tobi/Madara's end goals were peace. Their plans were different. Nagato wanted to create an ultimate Jutsu to bring peace through fear. Tobi/Madara wanted to combine the Bijuu to bring peace through IT. Tobi would not like Nagato's plan, meaning he didn't care who he was. It's what he could do that mattered.
Though, yes, Madara's name is definitely powerful. It helped with shock value, but it was the icing on the cake.
Correct, but I think you don't know what I was getting at. The title said Obito's intention was to solo the world. He couldn't solo the world since he had help with Akatsuki. So rather his intention was to solo the world or not, he can't claim that he "solo'd" the world with the help of others. Madara's name was a huge part of that. Madara's name was known and struck feared. Do you think the members of the Akatsuki would sit and listen to some guy named Obito who they had no idea who he was. Or stand and listen to the name Madara Uchiha?
No, Obito can't solo the world. No one can.Correct, but I think you don't know what I was getting at. The title said Obito's intention was to solo the world. He couldn't solo the world since he had help with Akatsuki. So rather his intention was to solo the world or not, he can't claim that he "solo'd" the world with the help of others. Madara's name was a huge part of that. Madara's name was known and struck feared. Do you think the members of the Akatsuki would sit and listen to some guy named Obito who they had no idea who he was. Or stand and listen to the name Madara Uchiha?
It doesn't take balls to declare war on the world, just extreme stupidity.
Lets not forget Obito was the one who declared war, while Madara was the one who fought it.
Basically this, Obito did next to nothing in the war.
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No, Obito can't solo the world. No one can.
What does "Madara" hypothetically stepping out in this situation matter? They'd listen to him either way if they were told he was influencing Pain and he was the true leader of Akatsuki. Wouldn't matter if his name was Madara Uchiha or Ozamatz Buckshank.
It's funny, because it really does look like cow fodder.
Okay there you go I was making the arguement why Obito can't and even if he would had won the war and conquer the world, he can't say he solo'd the world.
You are underrating Madara's name. He was made to believe the strongest in Shinobi history. Would want to go to a fight with a person who you have no idea of his fighting skills or do you want to go to a fight with Chuck Lidel. And you are fighting 5 people.