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o_O Not sure if you're reading. Read the bold/underlined part...
I see what your trying to say but the point to the underlined is that the things that do get approved won't/can't counter the op

Do u now see....not that we can't have op techs but we can't get a good enough tech approved
 

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If people are complaining about how others have op'ed jutsu then why not just make jutsu that counter the op'ed jutsu that are already made. Instead of trying to become op'ed just make jutsu that counter the op'ed jutsu. It's at least better than making jutsu that give you one move pwns all the time since it would get old easily due to it's like having cheat codes to the only game you play. Of course it's fun at first but then dies easily.
o_O Not sure if you're reading. Read the bold/underlined part...
I have never tried to compete against the OP'd jutsus.....i was just saying even moderately powerful jutsus are being declined now........(pardon me if i am wrong)
and if u make a counter for an OP'd jutsu your counter automatically becomes OP'd U_U
Now back on Topic i just ask for the explanation of why u ignore a certain jutsu.......i know its too much work for u but hey... O_O u already do all that work before accepting or declining a certain jutsu don`t u ??? all i am asking is post the work u did O_O
 

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Not to sound like a jerk or someone who thinks they could do their job better, but honestly what is done? People say the mods are busy but yet I don't see them anywhere except character creation and custom jutsu submission.

That is a real hassle. :rolleyes: If life is really rough where it comes down to declining stuff with explaination create a staff of Graders. They will only have the power to edit posts in the CJ thread, and they will be the ones to judge AND give explaintion towards declined CJs. Or, resign because obvisouly you can't handle the job.

:| However, none of that needs to be if you simply give more explaintion once declining jutsus. Threads like this won't be made, people know the requirements of what it takes to make a jutsu, and I am pretty sure it will in the long run make their jobs easier when judging.
 
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i would just like to ask you ~Yard~ how can normal member like me for example block this jutsu?

Name: Jigokuton : Za-ate : Hell Fire Release : The End
Rank: Forbidden
Type: Extreme Attack
Chakra: 150
Damage: 300
Dscription: User when in Hell Fire mode , Holding The sword of Hell Fire concentrates all the Hell Fire chakra through the sword making an very small orb of Very condensed Hell fire chakra, Then then orb rises into the sky and for about 20 feet and explodes with tremendous force thus incinerating the area of 20 km. User is Exhausted as well. Big crater is formed after the attack and it takes almost 75% of the user's chakra.
Note:
1. Once per battle
2. Last resort
3. User is almost out of chakra No s rank or a rank jutsu of any element
4. User cant use Fire or Hell fire anymore
5. Hell Fire mode wears off immediately
6. Sword of fire is deactivated

answer is, HE/SHE just can´t and not even you can´t block this jutsu, yes it takes a lot of chakra from you and you need to have that sword and mode active, BUT this is for normal member impossible to defeat (no hate towards the owner, this is just example of OP jutsu and i like it to be honest)
 

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i would just like to ask you ~Yard~ how can normal member like me for example block this jutsu?

Name: Jigokuton : Za-ate : Hell Fire Release : The End
Rank: Forbidden
Type: Extreme Attack
Chakra: 150
Damage: 300
Dscription: User when in Hell Fire mode , Holding The sword of Hell Fire concentrates all the Hell Fire chakra through the sword making an very small orb of Very condensed Hell fire chakra, Then then orb rises into the sky and for about 20 feet and explodes with tremendous force thus incinerating the area of 20 km. User is Exhausted as well. Big crater is formed after the attack and it takes almost 75% of the user's chakra.
Note:
1. Once per battle
2. Last resort
3. User is almost out of chakra No s rank or a rank jutsu of any element
4. User cant use Fire or Hell fire anymore
5. Hell Fire mode wears off immediately
6. Sword of fire is deactivated

answer is, HE/SHE just can´t and not even you can´t block this jutsu, yes it takes a lot of chakra from you and you need to have that sword and mode active, BUT this is for normal member impossible to defeat (no hate towards the owner, this is just example of OP jutsu and i like it to be honest)
Hells' technique? And, I could block that with one move with a Custom Element and possibly two to three with regular jutsus. That sir, isn't as OP as you think.
 

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Hells' technique? And, I could block that with one move with a Custom Element and possibly two to three with regular jutsus. That sir, isn't as OP as you think.
yes, you and you all "seniors" can block it with 1 jutsu, but us "new" guys just CAN´T, i just want to say that for example Me and Yard can´t block it most likely even if we both user our strongest techniques
 

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Not to sound like a jerk or someone who thinks they could do their job better, but honestly what is done? People say the mods are busy but yet I don't see them anywhere except character creation and custom jutsu submission.

That is a real hassle. :rolleyes: If life is really rough where it comes down to declining stuff with explaination create a staff of Graders. They will only have the power to edit posts in the CJ thread, and they will be the ones to judge AND give explaintion towards declined CJs. Or, resign because obvisouly you can't handle the job.

:| However, none of that needs to be if you simply give more explaintion once declining jutsus. Threads like this won't be made, people know the requirements of what it takes to make a jutsu, and I am pretty sure it will in the long run make their jobs easier when judging.
I'm in agreement with that and I'll offer my service
 

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i would just like to ask you ~Yard~ how can normal member like me for example block this jutsu?

Name: Jigokuton : Za-ate : Hell Fire Release : The End
Rank: Forbidden
Type: Extreme Attack
Chakra: 150
Damage: 300
Dscription: User when in Hell Fire mode , Holding The sword of Hell Fire concentrates all the Hell Fire chakra through the sword making an very small orb of Very condensed Hell fire chakra, Then then orb rises into the sky and for about 20 feet and explodes with tremendous force thus incinerating the area of 20 km. User is Exhausted as well. Big crater is formed after the attack and it takes almost 75% of the user's chakra.
Note:
1. Once per battle
2. Last resort
3. User is almost out of chakra No s rank or a rank jutsu of any element
4. User cant use Fire or Hell fire anymore
5. Hell Fire mode wears off immediately
6. Sword of fire is deactivated

answer is, HE/SHE just can´t and not even you can´t block this jutsu, yes it takes a lot of chakra from you and you need to have that sword and mode active, BUT this is for normal member impossible to defeat (no hate towards the owner, this is just example of OP jutsu and i like it to be honest)
Yes this is one of the attacks i mean even though its a last resort attack how can regular players beat this yea if im high enough to obtain the raikages lightning yea maybe i can use my speed to beat him but whos gonna train u to use it i havent heard anybody getting special training to even use this and i read raikages bio it only can be taught by him but yes your right senior players might kno ways to counter op's but players like me get destroyed for even trying
 

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I think the topic of the thread is changing....before it gets to out of hand let me say I just want a small sound reason y its declined and maybe a helping hand with things like wrong chakra points...etc

Also maybe a little more leeway
 

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1) We don't need to give a reason as why we decline a jutsu and no we're not going to change that. why? As without any doubt a lot of people are going to start to argue and yes that will happen. I'm not saying that everyone will do it, however there will be people and that's not a baseless assumption. There have been loads of people who complained about reasons as why their bio's got declined or why their move shouldn't work. So why would it be any different for custom jutsu's?

It's up to the mod whether he wants to give a reason or not.

2) It varies from mod to mod. What one mod finds OP, another finds acceptable. For instance I had once a jutsu declined by Goro a long time ago who found it extremely OP, while Rei said it was acceptable because it was easy to dodge. That's just the way people are, you can't change that.

3) These days around 80% of the custom jutsu's get declined, but that's normal because the amount of custom jutsu's keep rising and so does the amount of canon jutsu's. It's inevitable.

4) There are several reasons as why jutsu's get declined:

- Similar techniques exist, both canon and custom. Seriously I lost count of how many people submitted the chakra blasts from samurai, even though it's a canon jutsu so their wasting their own customs => this all means instantly declined, do not resubmit, whether it's E or S rank.

- Not following the template. Wrong chakra info, no Japanese names etc. a while back someone tried to use his own template and suggested we used that one. Not only was it an inconvenient his jutsu's got all declined because he didn't follow the template => these get declined, no matter what the jutsu does.

- Bad grammar. If we can't understand your jutsu, we're not going to approve it. These get declined.

- If you're banned, all your jutsu's are declined by default, no matter what they do.

- If you pass the 5 jutsu limit, they will all be declined, no matter what they do.

- Ridiculous jutsu's that don't make any sense. From the person who made it might seem logical as he or she knows what the jutsu is supposed to do and how it looks, but that doesn't mean everyone will. If a mod finds it ridiculous then he can decline it and depending on what it is he can decline, do not resubmit it. After all it's the opponent who needs to defend against the jutsu and doesn't needs to understand it.
If your jutsu makes no bloody sense whatsoever then it can be declined, do not resubmit. A lot of people think, when they use moves from other manga's, that the things that are logical there just apply here too, which is rarely the case, thus you get ridiculous jutsu's.

- OP jutsu's. Some people just don't put restrictions or barely any on them and then are surprised that they don't get approved. Also if a jutsu is OP, no amount of restrictions is going to save it.

5) You also need to realize that a lot of the most OP customs got approved years ago. The situation back then and now are completely different. A lot of these jutsu's wouldn't even get approved if they would be submitted now. They were just allowed to keep them for old times sake and because once approved, unless a very good reason, we don't void them. But it is possible, we can void jutsu's. Don't think because a jutsu is approved once we can never void it again. It's not something we will do often and on a whim, but it has happened before. Most of the people who have those OP jutsu's don't even use them. For instance Kirabi and Alucard had jutsu's voided because they were OP on such a level it was not acceptable anymore.
If you're going to start saying "they have OP customs and we don't" then you're just being childish as then you clearly don't realize the evolution our RP system has gone through.
 

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1) We don't need to give a reason as why we decline a jutsu and no we're not going to change that. why? As without any doubt a lot of people are going to start to argue and yes that will happen. I'm not saying that everyone will do it, however there will be people and that's not a baseless assumption. There have been loads of people who complained about reasons as why their bio's got declined or why their move shouldn't work. So why would it be any different for custom jutsu's?

It's up to the mod whether he wants to give a reason or not.

2) It varies from mod to mod. What one mod finds OP, another finds acceptable. For instance I had once a jutsu declined by Goro a long time ago who found it extremely OP, while Rei said it was acceptable because it was easy to dodge. That's just the way people are, you can't change that.

3) These days around 80% of the custom jutsu's get declined, but that's normal because the amount of custom jutsu's keep rising and so does the amount of canon jutsu's. It's inevitable.

4) There are several reasons as why jutsu's get declined:

- Similar techniques exist, both canon and custom. Seriously I lost count of how many people submitted the chakra blasts from samurai, even though it's a canon jutsu so their wasting their own customs => this all means instantly declined, do not resubmit, whether it's E or S rank.

- Not following the template. Wrong chakra info, no Japanese names etc. a while back someone tried to use his own template and suggested we used that one. Not only was it an inconvenient his jutsu's got all declined because he didn't follow the template => these get declined, no matter what the jutsu does.

- Bad grammar. If we can't understand your jutsu, we're not going to approve it. These get declined.

- If you're banned, all your jutsu's are declined by default, no matter what they do.

- If you pass the 5 jutsu limit, they will all be declined, no matter what they do.

- Ridiculous jutsu's that don't make any sense. From the person who made it might seem logical as he or she knows what the jutsu is supposed to do and how it looks, but that doesn't mean everyone will. If a mod finds it ridiculous then he can decline it and depending on what it is he can decline, do not resubmit it. After all it's the opponent who needs to defend against the jutsu and doesn't needs to understand it.
If your jutsu makes no bloody sense whatsoever then it can be declined, do not resubmit. A lot of people think, when they use moves from other manga's, that the things that are logical there just apply here too, which is rarely the case, thus you get ridiculous jutsu's.

- OP jutsu's. Some people just don't put restrictions or barely any on them and then are surprised that they don't get approved. Also if a jutsu is OP, no amount of restrictions is going to save it.

5) You also need to realize that a lot of the most OP customs got approved years ago. The situation back then and now are completely different. A lot of these jutsu's wouldn't even get approved if they would be submitted now. They were just allowed to keep them for old times sake and because once approved, unless a very good reason, we don't void them. But it is possible, we can void jutsu's. Don't think because a jutsu is approved once we can never void it again. It's not something we will do often and on a whim, but it has happened before. Most of the people who have those OP jutsu's don't even use them. For instance Kirabi and Alucard had jutsu's voided because they were OP on such a level it was not acceptable anymore.
If you're going to start saying "they have OP customs and we don't" then you're just being childish as then you clearly don't realize the evolution our RP system has gone through.
LOL, YES! Cali famous Wallo Text xd (yes this is spam)

But yeah calis right when i would just troll through the battle threads it was nothing but choas, and major communication errors (mainly).
 

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Most of the people who have those OP jutsu's don't even use them. For instance Kirabi and Alucard had jutsu's voided because they were OP on such a level it was not acceptable anymore.
(Doton: Kinjitou Meiun) - Earth Style: Pyramid of Doom
Rank: Forbbiden
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short/Medium
Chakra Cost: 60
Damage Points: N/A (20 to user)
Description: The user will make handsigns, and a huge pyramid will raise from the ground. This pyramd is unscapable and undestructible and inside of it, only Earth(Doton) jutsus can be used by the user and by the opponent. Inside of the pyramid it will be totally dark but the user can sense the opponent perfectly
Note: Can Only be used 1 per battle
Note: Lasts 4 turns
Note: After its used, the user can only use Earth jutsus and variants of it


:|
xd
 

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1) We don't need to give a reason as why we decline a jutsu and no we're not going to change that. why? As without any doubt a lot of people are going to start to argue and yes that will happen. I'm not saying that everyone will do it, however there will be people and that's not a baseless assumption. There have been loads of people who complained about reasons as why their bio's got declined or why their move shouldn't work. So why would it be any different for custom jutsu's?

It's up to the mod whether he wants to give a reason or not.

2) It varies from mod to mod. What one mod finds OP, another finds acceptable. For instance I had once a jutsu declined by Goro a long time ago who found it extremely OP, while Rei said it was acceptable because it was easy to dodge. That's just the way people are, you can't change that.

3) These days around 80% of the custom jutsu's get declined, but that's normal because the amount of custom jutsu's keep rising and so does the amount of canon jutsu's. It's inevitable.

4) There are several reasons as why jutsu's get declined:

- Similar techniques exist, both canon and custom. Seriously I lost count of how many people submitted the chakra blasts from samurai, even though it's a canon jutsu so their wasting their own customs => this all means instantly declined, do not resubmit, whether it's E or S rank.

- Not following the template. Wrong chakra info, no Japanese names etc. a while back someone tried to use his own template and suggested we used that one. Not only was it an inconvenient his jutsu's got all declined because he didn't follow the template => these get declined, no matter what the jutsu does.

- Bad grammar. If we can't understand your jutsu, we're not going to approve it. These get declined.

- If you're banned, all your jutsu's are declined by default, no matter what they do.

- If you pass the 5 jutsu limit, they will all be declined, no matter what they do.

- Ridiculous jutsu's that don't make any sense. From the person who made it might seem logical as he or she knows what the jutsu is supposed to do and how it looks, but that doesn't mean everyone will. If a mod finds it ridiculous then he can decline it and depending on what it is he can decline, do not resubmit it. After all it's the opponent who needs to defend against the jutsu and doesn't needs to understand it.
If your jutsu makes no bloody sense whatsoever then it can be declined, do not resubmit. A lot of people think, when they use moves from other manga's, that the things that are logical there just apply here too, which is rarely the case, thus you get ridiculous jutsu's.

- OP jutsu's. Some people just don't put restrictions or barely any on them and then are surprised that they don't get approved. Also if a jutsu is OP, no amount of restrictions is going to save it.

5) You also need to realize that a lot of the most OP customs got approved years ago. The situation back then and now are completely different. A lot of these jutsu's wouldn't even get approved if they would be submitted now. They were just allowed to keep them for old times sake and because once approved, unless a very good reason, we don't void them. But it is possible, we can void jutsu's. Don't think because a jutsu is approved once we can never void it again. It's not something we will do often and on a whim, but it has happened before. Most of the people who have those OP jutsu's don't even use them. For instance Kirabi and Alucard had jutsu's voided because they were OP on such a level it was not acceptable anymore.
If you're going to start saying "they have OP customs and we don't" then you're just being childish as then you clearly don't realize the evolution our RP system has gone through.
Crap so much for asking to post a reason :(
Cali and his wall always standing in the way......:p
well u can always put up another red rule saying anyone who argues regarding the explanation give will be infracted O_O
 
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Now this is going to be one flame prone thread......
So i will just post what i think and leave it as it is.......

Now i have submitted till date about five sets of CJs for submission to be checked and out of that i have got only 2 approved when Rei checked the thread.
Everything else was rejected with ~NO resubmit~ hanging by its side...

I just wanted to know on what basis do u check the jutsu??

Since i think the only thing that u seem to approve these days is a wooden stick for custom weapon (this is exaggeration)
compared to the OP customs that everyone has what u approve does make us feel like that......
I wont point out the OP customs now.

I just wanted to know what are the points u consider while checking so that i dont get all my jutsu ideas thrown back. Because it sucks to see do not resubmit

and dont say it has to be logical and all please.
and that would be it.
Some points are valid but others... We can't expect to be as powerfull as people who are here RPing from the begining... The quest for your own Cj's shouldn't be fueled by your own desire to "One-move-pawn" everyone... U_U

Must be because different people that approve the CJ have different perspectives on how to use the use that you submitted.
That i agree. Diferent mods have diferent criteria...and what one assumes is acceptable...others don't...but they can't help it...they are people like you and me...not machines...they view the RP in their own ways...

Hasashi did if im not mistaken.

Well, on the thread it says: ''NB's moderators have every right to deny any move we wish without true explanation, because some techniques submitted do not reach a certain criteria that we feel should be accepted.'' so they dont really need to give you an explanation, tough they're the ones who check the techniques for some reason they won't just declined it because they don't like it.

And about the OP techniques, yeah, some members had/have some overpowered customs, but the fact ''your op customs'' aren't approved is precisely because of some mistakes made in the past. It seems the biggest ambition of the new members, apart from wanting to be a sensei, is to have overpowered customs. Well, i can tell you, once you have them, you will eventually get tired of them. It takes away the fun of rp'ing if you have and spam your ridiculous overpowered customs.



I'm sure you don't know Emperor then O_O
I agree with this. Op techniques are overated....just look at the last invasions from akatsuki....a lot of OP spamming but little accomplishment... OP jutsu aren't the key...

good enough reason

There is no point in discussing
The people in charge here know what they are doing
Is not in our power to judge their actions
It's not our position to judge...that i agree...but it's not our position to simply sit back and let everything happen. The RP belongs to all of us. Its in our own role to also help better it through sugestions. The question is that normally the "suggestion" comes via a VM/PM to a mod/admin fueled by the frustration that you can't have the same ability in your konoha ninja bio that...that...Goku has in DBZ... The problem is that people aren't reasonable in the suggestions sometimes.

i don't know about what you just said..but if a mod writes the reason for declining a jutsu the member will spam the mods profile saying "if this is alright" and "is this alright" and most members won't stop arguing at all..seems to be the reason why the red rule is up ...

i don't see any current problem with the CJ submission threadU_U
I agree. If a mod says "you can't have lightning chakra fueled by a stick of wood cause physics doesn't allow it and it's illogical" the person would wiki-the hell out of the mods profile in VMs to try and counter his decision... Its the way people act under the frustration of having their CJs disapproved...

That is pathetic u are just assuming what will happen!!!
U do not take into account what has happened.......
do u think even now they are not spammed or anything?? They still spam the mod profiles saying why this was not approved.....
ask Rei if u don`t understand when she checked the CJ eventhough most of the times she gave valid reasons about why she wont approve a certain jutsu she still had loads of VM`s regarding this .... U_U
I feel it is a matter of opinion some like me when get valid reason why his CJ was rejected would try to improve ......so i was considering myself when i said this......
But yes i Hate to follow something blindly.
Yes...she does have tons of VMs reguarding jutsu and stuff...but that doesn't mean she should have, dude U_U

If people are complaining about how others have op'ed jutsu then why not just make jutsu that counter the op'ed jutsu that are already made. Instead of trying to become op'ed just make jutsu that counter the op'ed jutsu. It's at least better than making jutsu that give you one move pwns all the time since it would get old easily due to it's like having cheat codes to the only game you play. Of course it's fun at first but then dies easily.
=_=" Yes...counter an OP forbidden rank...just make a c-Rank and be done with it... Yard most of the OP techniques can only be blocked by similar power techniques...meaning that making a jutsu to counter an OP tech would result in submitting an OP jutsu yourself...its a vicious circle... U_U

xd

Back on topic; I think you'll have a hard time changing the way customs are being checked. There's so many to check every week, and what you're asking will only accentuate the mods burdens. I'm all for it (better descriptions of why it was declined), but I just don't think it'll happen anytime soon (and if it does, it won't last).
Agreed....


yes, you and you all "seniors" can block it with 1 jutsu, but us "new" guys just CAN´T, i just want to say that for example Me and Yard can´t block it most likely even if we both user our strongest techniques
Don't see a problem in that... Generally speaking an OP member most of the times isn't even RPing actively... Except for the Akatsuki members in general...but that wasn't even enough for them... Why would you want to counter the moves of your Hokage for example? What would be the point? to take his place? There has to be some difference in power...

1) We don't need to give a reason as why we decline a jutsu and no we're not going to change that. why? As without any doubt a lot of people are going to start to argue and yes that will happen. I'm not saying that everyone will do it, however there will be people and that's not a baseless assumption. There have been loads of people who complained about reasons as why their bio's got declined or why their move shouldn't work. So why would it be any different for custom jutsu's?

It's up to the mod whether he wants to give a reason or not.

2) It varies from mod to mod. What one mod finds OP, another finds acceptable. For instance I had once a jutsu declined by Goro a long time ago who found it extremely OP, while Rei said it was acceptable because it was easy to dodge. That's just the way people are, you can't change that.

3) These days around 80% of the custom jutsu's get declined, but that's normal because the amount of custom jutsu's keep rising and so does the amount of canon jutsu's. It's inevitable.

4) There are several reasons as why jutsu's get declined:

- Similar techniques exist, both canon and custom. Seriously I lost count of how many people submitted the chakra blasts from samurai, even though it's a canon jutsu so their wasting their own customs => this all means instantly declined, do not resubmit, whether it's E or S rank.

- Not following the template. Wrong chakra info, no Japanese names etc. a while back someone tried to use his own template and suggested we used that one. Not only was it an inconvenient his jutsu's got all declined because he didn't follow the template => these get declined, no matter what the jutsu does.

- Bad grammar. If we can't understand your jutsu, we're not going to approve it. These get declined.

- If you're banned, all your jutsu's are declined by default, no matter what they do.

- If you pass the 5 jutsu limit, they will all be declined, no matter what they do.

- Ridiculous jutsu's that don't make any sense. From the person who made it might seem logical as he or she knows what the jutsu is supposed to do and how it looks, but that doesn't mean everyone will. If a mod finds it ridiculous then he can decline it and depending on what it is he can decline, do not resubmit it. After all it's the opponent who needs to defend against the jutsu and doesn't needs to understand it.
If your jutsu makes no bloody sense whatsoever then it can be declined, do not resubmit. A lot of people think, when they use moves from other manga's, that the things that are logical there just apply here too, which is rarely the case, thus you get ridiculous jutsu's.

- OP jutsu's. Some people just don't put restrictions or barely any on them and then are surprised that they don't get approved. Also if a jutsu is OP, no amount of restrictions is going to save it.

5) You also need to realize that a lot of the most OP customs got approved years ago. The situation back then and now are completely different. A lot of these jutsu's wouldn't even get approved if they would be submitted now. They were just allowed to keep them for old times sake and because once approved, unless a very good reason, we don't void them. But it is possible, we can void jutsu's. Don't think because a jutsu is approved once we can never void it again. It's not something we will do often and on a whim, but it has happened before. Most of the people who have those OP jutsu's don't even use them. For instance Kirabi and Alucard had jutsu's voided because they were OP on such a level it was not acceptable anymore.
If you're going to start saying "they have OP customs and we don't" then you're just being childish as then you clearly don't realize the evolution our RP system has gone through.
Wall-no-Jutsu...extremely OPed this one also... lolol Jok...

On a serious not, cali makes the best point of them all...


I had many CJs rejected...like most members... Its frustrating and we can give in to the tempation of thinking that if some other member submitted them they would pass or that some other mod would accept it...or something...but we shouldn't... I just move on...and try new things...Its not a race to see who can get more oped...

The only suggestion i would make was to make a set of rules for some special types of justu:

Modes
Forbidden Jutsu
Weapons
Summons

When i say rules i say guidelines to build an approvable jutsu of that kind... S-Rank summon can only use A-Rank elemental techs and stay in the field 4 turns...or a mode can only give you this and that...It would make things easier... But if that is possible or not...i don't know...
 

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If only you knew how many times I have butted heads with the mods. I been doing it since back before Rei was even a mod and before her name was even Rei.
This is true xd

Or before you became my personal hoe :|

*put your leash back on*

Let's go now U_U
Lmao! xd

Not to sound like a jerk or someone who thinks they could do their job better, but honestly what is done? People say the mods are busy but yet I don't see them anywhere except character creation and custom jutsu submission.

That is a real hassle. :rolleyes: If life is really rough where it comes down to declining stuff with explaination create a staff of Graders. They will only have the power to edit posts in the CJ thread, and they will be the ones to judge AND give explaintion towards declined CJs. Or, resign because obvisouly you can't handle the job.

:| However, none of that needs to be if you simply give more explaintion once declining jutsus. Threads like this won't be made, people know the requirements of what it takes to make a jutsu, and I am pretty sure it will in the long run make their jobs easier when judging.
Akira, you make a pretty good point. I actually feel bad for not giving an explanation to every jutsu that is declined (I try to give an explanation if I can, though), but sometimes, just looking at the amount of unchecked custom jutsus is overwhelming and some of us are not willing to leave an explanation. If we do not, I'm sorry, but we're only human. It's easy to point fingers, and even I myself wondered (before I was an RP mod) why certain jutsus were declined without explanation. It's simply a matter of being put in that situation and how you would handle it differently than you believe you would when not in that situation (much like the way people criticize authority figures and saying they could do the job better, but when they are actually in the same situation, they struggle). You are right, however, that it is fair to give reasons for declining CJs, but some declined Custom Jutsu are just a given ~_~'

1) We don't need to give a reason as why we decline a jutsu and no we're not going to change that. why? As without any doubt a lot of people are going to start to argue and yes that will happen. I'm not saying that everyone will do it, however there will be people and that's not a baseless assumption. There have been loads of people who complained about reasons as why their bio's got declined or why their move shouldn't work. So why would it be any different for custom jutsu's?

It's up to the mod whether he wants to give a reason or not.

2) It varies from mod to mod. What one mod finds OP, another finds acceptable. For instance I had once a jutsu declined by Goro a long time ago who found it extremely OP, while Rei said it was acceptable because it was easy to dodge. That's just the way people are, you can't change that.

3) These days around 80% of the custom jutsu's get declined, but that's normal because the amount of custom jutsu's keep rising and so does the amount of canon jutsu's. It's inevitable.

4) There are several reasons as why jutsu's get declined:

- Similar techniques exist, both canon and custom. Seriously I lost count of how many people submitted the chakra blasts from samurai, even though it's a canon jutsu so their wasting their own customs => this all means instantly declined, do not resubmit, whether it's E or S rank.

- Not following the template. Wrong chakra info, no Japanese names etc. a while back someone tried to use his own template and suggested we used that one. Not only was it an inconvenient his jutsu's got all declined because he didn't follow the template => these get declined, no matter what the jutsu does.

- Bad grammar. If we can't understand your jutsu, we're not going to approve it. These get declined.

- If you're banned, all your jutsu's are declined by default, no matter what they do.

- If you pass the 5 jutsu limit, they will all be declined, no matter what they do.

- Ridiculous jutsu's that don't make any sense. From the person who made it might seem logical as he or she knows what the jutsu is supposed to do and how it looks, but that doesn't mean everyone will. If a mod finds it ridiculous then he can decline it and depending on what it is he can decline, do not resubmit it. After all it's the opponent who needs to defend against the jutsu and doesn't needs to understand it.
If your jutsu makes no bloody sense whatsoever then it can be declined, do not resubmit. A lot of people think, when they use moves from other manga's, that the things that are logical there just apply here too, which is rarely the case, thus you get ridiculous jutsu's.

- OP jutsu's. Some people just don't put restrictions or barely any on them and then are surprised that they don't get approved. Also if a jutsu is OP, no amount of restrictions is going to save it.

5) You also need to realize that a lot of the most OP customs got approved years ago. The situation back then and now are completely different. A lot of these jutsu's wouldn't even get approved if they would be submitted now. They were just allowed to keep them for old times sake and because once approved, unless a very good reason, we don't void them. But it is possible, we can void jutsu's. Don't think because a jutsu is approved once we can never void it again. It's not something we will do often and on a whim, but it has happened before. Most of the people who have those OP jutsu's don't even use them. For instance Kirabi and Alucard had jutsu's voided because they were OP on such a level it was not acceptable anymore.
If you're going to start saying "they have OP customs and we don't" then you're just being childish as then you clearly don't realize the evolution our RP system has gone through.
Wallie no Jutsu strikes again :|

But, yeah, what Cali said. I'm also pretty tired of people complaining that "they have OP jutsu and we don't". Lol. You guys honestly have no idea how easy you have it with the special bios and whatnot. Back in 08, as a noob, you were practically nothing in the RP. You had no OP jutsu, no custom jutsu because you needed more posts to even submit a CJ, and main competition was people like Bisha, Hells, Zanji, Madara, Elias, Akira, ect. (all who had OP jutsu, the likes of which you could not imagine). That was the purpose of the massive CJ recheck, which most of you who are complaining were not here for. It was the first time that a decent standard was set for restricting members from making OP jutsu (and A LOT of jutsus were declined). It can't be helped. There will always be flaws, but I can assure you that the people who complain about not being able to create OP jutsu either lack creativity or lack the knowledge of the proper way to submit and present their Custom Jutsus.
You can, for example, submit a jutsu which you might consider OP enough for you to contest with other "OP jutsu", per say, and if I were to check it, I would approve it as long as it was reasonable, it had decent restrictions, and it's not stupid. Usually, for me, there is a basis of "How easily can this jutsu be defeated/avoided" when checking customs, and if there is absolutely no way it can be defeated, then it's probably OP (and trust me, I know a lot of ways that different jutsus can be defeated, be it by canon jutsu or even other members' custom jutsus). All of that simply comes with familiarity with the site and the members of the RP (Including their fighting styles). Every mod has their preference, as Caliburn said. Some may find one jutsu to be OP, while others do not. It's a matter of presentation and soundness in reason.
 
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as far as i am concerned..every mod who has declined my jutsu has provided me with suitable reasons..

and i don't really like the idea of a jutsu being approved by one mod and declined by another..i suugest to make a mod particularly in charge of this section and this section alone..so he will be the only one to approve the CJ,also this mod can discuss about OP jutsu's with admins or other mods...
this reduces confusion:)
 
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as far as i am concerned..every mod who has declined my jutsu has provided me with suitable reasons..

and i don't really like the idea of a jutsu being approved by one mod and declined by another..i suugest to make a mod particularly in charge of this section and this section alone..so he will be the only one to approve the CJ,also this mod can discuss about OP jutsu's with admins or other mods...
this reduces confusion:)
I somewhat agree....I think you all (mods) MSN so I think it should be 2 out of 3 to approve/decline. That way those who find it ok can explain why to those who don't in hopes to come to an agreement....this also would boost the approval rate as 2 mods are better than one....lol....
example: I had a mod tell me sasori bio can't use jutsu other than puppet jutsu, but I didn't stop there I asked 2 more mods and those 2 said he could....point being that 1 mod can say whatever but a council would accomplish much more

Yes this would maybe take longer (time difference and all) but imo it would be worth the wait as more cjs would pass and ultimately it would lighting the work load of the mods as more people would be at their 35 tech limit so less and less cjs would come though (until they start dropping them, but a rule could be put in place for this, farther delaying more submission)

As for the whole why change what we're doing/we're not changing what we're doing......so what's the point of a question and SUGGESTION thread
 
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