Current SM Naruto vs Current Oro

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Orochimaru has genjutsu feats? I was not aware of this, mind presenting some scans?

How do so few people know of this? The guy's a genjutsu pro.[ ]
 

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How do so few people know of this? The guy's a genjutsu pro.[ ]

Oh Rofl that scan I already knew of that, didnt know it was genjutsu though. I still give it to naruto, that petty genjutsu feat on that fodder doesnt say much.
 

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How do so few people know of this? The guy's a genjutsu pro.[ ]

First of all , no , that's not a genjutsu:

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Second , it's easily countered:

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And third , if you seriously believe SM Naruto fused with Ma and Pa is getting caught in a genjutsu , then you're a hater .
 

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Oh Rofl that scan I already knew of that, didnt know it was genjutsu though. I still give it to naruto, that petty genjutsu feat on that fodder doesnt say much.

He actually also tried it on naruto but only failed because of the kyuubi. The same thing sasuke did to naruto failed for orochimaru because orochimaru tried it when naruto was already transformed while sasuke tried it before he started to accept the kyuubi's chakra. [ ]
He also caught kakashi in a fear genjutsu.[ ]

First of all , no , that's not a genjutsu:

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Second , it's easily countered:

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And third , if you seriously believe SM Naruto fused with Ma and Pa is getting caught in a genjutsu , then you're a hater .

it's actually a genjutsu. It's just one based on fear whereas there are others based on restraint, etc. And, FYI, all genjutsu can be broken with pain -_-... And, yes naruto can be caught in a genjutsu, anyone can even if for a second.
 
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it's actually a genjutsu.

The fuq are you talking about ? The manga directly contradicts you , here , let me post the scan again for you .

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Also , here's a link to the description of the technique you are referring to:



Classified as ninjutsu , so both DB and manga disagree with you .

And, FYI, all genjutsu can be broken with pain -_-...

How is this helping your point ?

And, yes naruto can be caught in a genjutsu, anyone can even if for a second.

And Ma and Pa just sit there right ? Lol
 

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The fuq are you talking about ? The manga directly contradicts you , here , let me post the scan again for you .

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Also , here's a link to the description of the technique you are referring to:



Classified as ninjutsu , so both DB and manga disagree with you .



How is this helping your point ?



And Ma and Pa just sit there right ? Lol

You're posting completely different scans from what I post and claiming they're the exact same thing then stating they contradict me. Seriously? Now you believe that people just drop into a scene where they see a played out death? Are you serious? The entire SA should be under this then since madara has the biggest killing intent out of everyone.

Assuming it's a paralysis ninjutsu, wtf's your point? It'd do the job of paralysing naruto while he's doing FRS. Whoopty doo, what i intended the jutsu to do... it did.

Your last point makes zero sense :| EVERYONE can be caught into genjutsu regardless of partner. It doesn't matter if it's 1 second. It could care less if ma and pa sit there, anyone can be caught. Or do you now need me to spoon feed you the manga?
 

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You're posting completely different scans from what I post and claiming they're the exact same thing then stating they contradict me.

They do . Are you insinuating that the technique Oro used on Sasuke is not the one you're talking about ? Well ,you would be wrong . Again .

Your example:

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My example:

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Can you see any difference ? Can you prove any difference ? No , you can't . Both were cast in the same exact way and had the same exact result , only Sasuke was able to counter and the fodder was not .

Oh wait , you probably think the version used against the fodder was stronger right ? Yes , because that would be fuel for this pathetic argument . Here are both characters directly after the ninjutsu:

Sasuke:

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Fodder:

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Both have the exact same symptoms , both tech's were cast in the same exact way , they are the same thing .

You literally have dozens of jutsu you could use in a debate for Orochimaru , yet you pull out this fear ninjutsu that he didn't bother to use against:

Jiraiya
Sasuke
Itachi
Naruto
Tsunade
Hiruzen

You would think this almighty genjutsu that can one-shot a Sage Mode user fused with two master summons would be of some use against above opponents .


Seriously? Now you believe that people just drop into a scene where they see a played out death?

What are you talking about ?

Are you serious?

You're the one who thinks Oro has genjutsu feats, not me .

The entire SA should be under this then since madara has the biggest killing intent out of everyone.

Guess what ? They aren't . Your point is invalid .

Assuming it's a paralysis ninjutsu, wtf's your point?

A.) Easily countered

B.) Ma and Pa

C.) I was correcting you.

Also , there is no "assuming it's a paralysis ninjutsu," it is a paralysis ninjutsu per DB and manga .

It'd do the job of paralysing naruto while he's doing FRS.

* Naruto then proceeds to do FRS again*

Whoopty doo, what i intended the jutsu to do... it did.

Actually , you said Naruto would be under genjutsu before he launched FRS:

Pfft he'd be under genjutsu before he launched that.

Which is incorrect . Not a genjutsu .

Your last point makes zero sense :| EVERYONE can be caught into genjutsu regardless of partner. It doesn't matter if it's 1 second. It could care less if ma and pa sit there, anyone can be caught. Or do you now need me to spoon feed you the manga?

Okay , so Naruto is under a paralysis ninjutsu , assuming a technique as mundane and impractical as that would actually work , then what ? Oro one-shots with Kusangi ?

No . Intercepted by Ma and Pa .

Seriously , drop the genjutsu argument and switch to something different . It's completely impractical in this fight .
 

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Orochimaru wins with Itachi level genjutsu,hurr durr.

FRS busts his fodder arse
 

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The fuq are you talking about ? The manga directly contradicts you , here , let me post the scan again for you .

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Also , here's a link to the description of the technique you are referring to:



Classified as ninjutsu , so both DB and manga disagree with you .

It's not Temporary Paralysis Technique. It's Killing Intent.
It probably isn't Genjutsu (we only have young Sasuke claiming it wasn't Genjutsu), but it works similar to it. Orochimaru manipulates victims' brain and sends visions of death on them, leaving them paralysed and defenseless.

Morover, Sasuke didn't break out of it with just hurting himself. He needed a Sharingan upgrade (special chakra sprouted in his brain) and THEN he needed to stab himself. It's not easy to get rid of it.

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And lol at people saying FRS or Frog Chant end Orochimaru. Now with 2 different ways of sensing, his intel, amazing speed and reaction feats and several different defensive/situational abilities, he's not getting hit by anything Naruto throws at him.

Orochimaru simply merges with the ground before the Frog Chant is finished and leaves Ma and Pa with a wasted jutsu and sore throats. Thanks to that they cannot use it again.
 
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Kinda one-sided.

Take away Ma and Pa.
 
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