Current Sasuke vs. Juubito

[KidGamer65]

Insult all u want KG

I never insulted you. In fact, you insulted everyone who thinks Juubito loses mid diff or lower by calling them fanboys.

u still failed to post evidence how he gets passed the black orbs (tbh the only reason sasuke was able to cut madara is most likely because his orbs were taken from him by kakashi via kamoi against gai we dnt know if sasuke has the power to break through the orbs...)

Pretty sure I told you to re-read the manga, but since you decided to ignore that piece of advice, I'll tell you what the manga told everyone who read it. Senjutsu is the only thing that can hurt the Juubi Jinchuuriki's body and get past their orbs as Senjutsu can't be negated. Sasuke uses Senjutsu as he was able to cut Madara in half with his Black Chidori, as for raw power:

-9 Rasengan already cracked Obito's final shield and a weaker PS Kurama already cut right through it. Sasuke's new Susanoo is far stronger so it'll chop through Gudo Dama with ease.

Also what is he going to do against jubbi tbb spam ??

Well lets see....Juubidama first has to be charged up via the tree, which also has to be summoned, and Obito is fighting against someone faster than him on foot and with a Susanoo that has a very high level of mobility. He won't get to charge them up, the tree gets cut down via Susanoo and Obito follows.

Though I will say that if one goes off its GG Sasuke.

Lastly my whining u say ... Not really whining it's just exasperation of the overrating of sasuke to the point y'all say he mid/low diff a jubbi junjurchi

what the **** has he shown to even remotely prove this ?

Lol, whatever you want to call it.

 

[genii96]

I never insulted you. In fact, you insulted everyone who thinks Juubito loses mid diff or lower by calling them fanboys.



Pretty sure I told you to re-read the manga, but since you decided to ignore that piece of advice, I'll tell you what the manga told everyone who read it. Senjutsu is the only thing that can hurt the Juubi Jinchuuriki's body and get past their orbs as Senjutsu can't be negated. Sasuke uses Senjutsu as he was able to cut Madara in half with his Black Chidori, as for raw power:

-9 Rasengan already cracked Obito's final shield and a weaker PS Kurama already cut right through it. Sasuke's new Susanoo is far stronger so it'll chop through Gudo Dama with ease.


Well lets see....Juubidama first has to be charged up via the tree, which also has to be summoned, and Obito is fighting against someone faster than him on foot and with a Susanoo that has a very high level of mobility. He won't get to charge them up, the tree gets cut down via Susanoo and Obito follows.

Though I will say that if one goes off its GG Sasuke.



Lol, whatever you want to call it.

does sasuke have sage mode?,cuz without it he is just a pest. Also what stops obito from going full BM and just doing bijuudama spam?

 

[lucario14]

You're assuming again

Rikudou Obito beat every s/t user in speed so far, Sasuke will be no different.

Especially when Madara wasn't fast enough to get Obito too, so using Madara as a means to hype up Sasuke's feat is futile.

faster =/= stronger

No. sasuke is faster than minato.

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see this fail?

Madara reacted perfectly well to minato. Why? coz minato is not that fast. Before madara can use kamui, sasuke approaches madara and bisects him. He couldn't even react, he just had time for a thought.

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Gai didn't shatter Madara's orbs:

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Try again, as you can see minato's ftg and kakashi's kamui created openings to help Gai.

He didn't break the black orbs...

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How did you leave this image out lol. This clearly shows the shield being broken.

Even minato's ftg was faster than Rikudou Madara, something that even kcm minato wasn't fast enough to do to Obito.

Fast does not equal strong.

Sasuke can't shattered Obito's orbs on his own, he'll need naruto to help him.

Doesn't matter if you think Madara had a head start, and for what exactly?

A race?

This is a battle, and if moving out of Sasuke's rinnegan range makes him slower in speed....

He will definitely no win against Rikudou Obito.

Yu can even see Madara stop and take kakashi's eyes here:

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It's when he stopped that Sasuke was able to catch him from behind:

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Again, using Madara as a means of speed is pointless because even Obito with no chakra left beat Madara in speed:

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Madara used limbo to fool sasuke to get out of his range. Obito has nothing like that. Obito is not faster than madara are you high?

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This is where sasuke started. Do you see how far naruto is from sasuke?

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Sasuke makes up this gap incredibly fast. He kept up with juubito (not faster just kept up with) and that was just ems sasuke. current sasuke blitzes current madara.

Obito has flower tree and chakra arms to guard himself too.

Sasuke is not faster than minato...

Even with senjustu, they still weren't able to beat his black orbs...

Sasuke alone can't break them

No, no he didn't

no it doesn't work that way

Flower tree+chakra arms? You saying madara did not have those powers?Sasuke blitzed madara twice without madara even having time time think. (3 if you count limbo clone sub)

Obito>>>Sasuke in speed, that's not even debatable just look at the scans above.

Obito beat Madara in speed, again look at the scans above

Madara beat Sasuke in using a clone substitute from the very beginning, so I don't know why you even brought that up.

yes not debatable because sasuke is faster. Not sure how you think juubito is faster than juubi jin madara.

Get in Obito's range?

Obito is way faster than Sasuke first of all, and even Tobirama and Minato (who are faster wanted to stay away from Obito's range):

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Do you know what would happen if Sasuke comes close to Obito?

He would rip his soul out dead:

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He fooled madara into coming close to him then pierced his chest. sasuke is not going to let that happen. Sasuke will destroy him in range.

Or blow him up with the black orbs:

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No. If guy could kick this away

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Sasuke would have no trouble with it what so ever.

Black orbs is not stopping sasuke and the flower tree takes too much time to prepare like I said before. Unfortunately juubito can't use kamui otherwise it would have been harder for sasuke but against juubito, sasuke will not have trouble if he unleashes his full power quickly with very high intent to kill.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

What can sasuke do if Obito decides to summon the shinju? The alliance were completely helpless against it when he summoned it, the only reason the manga didn't end at chapter 646 was that obito stopped the shinju himself.

 

[lucario14]

What can sasuke do if Obito decides to summon the shinju? The alliance were completely helpless against it when he summoned it, the only reason the manga didn't end at chapter 646 was that obito stopped the shinju himself.

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JK. Now that he has a bigger susanoo, he'll lay waste to the shinju. Honestly I doubt sasuke will give him enough time to summon the shinju. If he already has the shinju active, then the victory would go juubito's way

 

[King Of Pop]

does sasuke have sage mode?,cuz without it he is just a pest. Also what stops obito from going full BM and just doing bijuudama spam?

He does not need to have sage mode. He can utilize the Sages hermit power and fuse it with his chidori, or his chidori spear sword. Because of that he's black chidori was able to connect with madarss limbo. Sasuke can damage juubito just fine.

 

[Zee U]

Sasuke wins by both portrayal and feats.

Portrayal: He is way stronger than Pre Shinju Madara, who is stronger than Obito by a good margin

Feats: Faster than Madara, his Susanoo his stronger than the Kyusanoo used againts Obito, barrier + Juubidama method is countered by teleporting away or destroying the tree.

 

[KidGamer65]

does sasuke have sage mode?,cuz without it he is just a pest. Also what stops obito from going full BM and just doing bijuudama spam?

Nope. But Rikudo's Chakra can hurt Juubi Jins and can't be negated by Onmyoton as Sasuke bisected Juubi Jin Madara using this, and he paralyzed Madara's shadow.

That's not how Obito's Bijuu Mode works. If he goes Bijuu Mode, its the Shinju that comes out.

What can sasuke do if Obito decides to summon the shinju? The alliance were completely helpless against it when he summoned it, the only reason the manga didn't end at chapter 646 was that obito stopped the shinju himself.

Base RSM Naruto bisected the Shinju with one attack. Sasuke chopped up a rock that has the same width as the Shinju. He cuts the Shinju up into pieces, with ease.

 

[Nattana]

Nope. But Rikudo's Chakra can hurt Juubi Jins and can't be negated by Onmyoton as Sasuke bisected Juubi Jin Madara using this, and he paralyzed Madara's shadow.

That's not how Obito's Bijuu Mode works. If he goes Bijuu Mode, its the Shinju that comes out.



Base RSM Naruto bisected the Shinju with one attack. Sasuke chopped up a rock that has the same width as the Shinju. He cuts the Shinju up into pieces, with ease.

And what about Kamui?

 

[KidGamer65]

And what about Kamui?

You mean the technique that Juubito can't use to phase? The technique he can only use to run away? It has no factor here.

 

[Nattana]

You mean the technique that Juubito can't use to phase? The technique he can only use to run away? It has no factor here.

VIZ scan says something different.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Sasuke. Seeing how he's been fighting 6 paths Madara makes it clear he's stronger than Juubito.

 

[KidGamer65]

VIZ scan says something different.

It says that he can't phase through dimensions. Which is what I just said. He can't phase with Kamui. He can still teleport into the dimension and he can still send people to that dimension.

 

[Nattana]

It says that he can't phase through dimensions. Which is what I just said. He can't phase with Kamui. He can still teleport into the dimension and he can still send people to that dimension.

Ok, my bad. I mistook *********** translation for VIZ.

 

[genii96]

He does not need to have sage mode. He can utilize the Sages hermit power and fuse it with his chidori, or his chidori spear sword. Because of that he's black chidori was able to connect with madarss limbo. Sasuke can damage juubito just fine.

damaging juubito isnt the problem,its having your techs get nullified.

Nope. But Rikudo's Chakra can hurt Juubi Jins and can't be negated by Onmyoton as Sasuke bisected Juubi Jin Madara using this, and he paralyzed Madara's shadow.

That's not how Obito's Bijuu Mode works. If he goes Bijuu Mode, its the Shinju that comes out.



Base RSM Naruto bisected the Shinju with one attack. Sasuke chopped up a rock that has the same width as the Shinju. He cuts the Shinju up into pieces, with ease.

actually,naruto's rasengan with the seal markings paralyzyed the clone,and madara wasnt facing sasuke when he was bisected. Any tech can do damage to a juubi jin,but only sage techs cant be nullified.
Madara didnt have the truth seeking balls iirc,thus he could be hit by just about any tech,just like how juubito was hit with the enton/frs combo when he was warped in front of it. Also as a mindless juubito when he hadnt made the onymoton yet he was blown in half with hiw own non senjutsu bijudama,the same ones that couldnt do anything to the orb. Hurting him isnt the problem,its hurting him without getting your attacks nullified.
Both times sasuke hit madara he had no balls.(no pun intendedLol)
Juubito has also reacted to ftg,which is instant,so you cant get faster than that.
Unless sasuke can hit juubito without interference from the balls,he cant do anything

 

[KidGamer65]

actually,naruto's rasengan with the seal markings paralyzyed the clone,and madara wasnt facing sasuke when he was bisected. Any tech can do damage to a juubi jin,but only sage techs cant be nullified.

Um, you can clearly see the Chidori paralyzing him. Jiton Rasengan did the same, and it was to bind him.

Doesn't matter if he was facing Sasuke, and wrong. Onmyoton is applied to the orbs and the Juubi Jins body. Only Taijutsu and Senjutsu work. Said many times in the manga. [

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An Enton Rasenshuriken hit Juubito directly and did no damage. Clearly only Senjutsu or Taijutsu works on him.

Madara didnt have the truth seeking balls iirc,thus he could be hit by just about any tech,just like how juubito was hit with the enton/frs combo when he was warped in front of it.

1. Enton RS did no damage, so it was negated by Onmyoton.

2. As shown above, only Senjutsu and Taijutsu work on the Jin.

Also as a mindless juubito when he hadnt made the onymoton yet he was blown in half with hiw own non senjutsu bijudama,the same ones that couldnt do anything to the orb. Hurting him isnt the problem,its hurting him without getting your attacks nullified.

He used the Gudo Dama, and those are

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to be Senjutsu. Hurting him and getting your attack nullified are directly related. Juubi Jins aren't hurt by attacks because they are get nullified. Only Senjutsu and Taijutsu can hurt them.

Both times sasuke hit madara he had no balls.(no pun intendedLol)

Lol

But yeah, the Gudo Dama only negate Ninjutsu that come in contact with them. Having them and not using them to block does nothing, and Juubi Jins bodies are immune to Ninjutsu due to Onmyoton.

Juubito has also reacted to ftg,which is instant,so you cant get faster than that.

He didn't react to anything. He tagged Minato before he could teleport. Different from reacting to Hiraishin itself, which is impossible.

Unless sasuke can hit juubito without interference from the balls,he cant do anything

As shown above, the Juubi Jins body is immune to Ninjutsu, and can only be hurt by Senjutsu and Taijutsu. Sasuke used Chidori to cut Madara in half, meaning he has some kind of Senjutsu. Meaning the Gudo Dama (Which follow the same principle as the Jins body) get cut through by Sasuke's attacks, as they are all influenced by Rikudo's chakra, which is either Senjutsu or identical to Senjutsu.

So PS would chop his Gudo Dama and his body into ribbons.