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woah dude chill. He is not immortal. He said guy almost killed him.
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Also compare guy's damage to sasuke's
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Sasuke's did more damage plus madara quickly regenerated after guy's attack but in the kamui dimension, madara's upper body took longer to regenerate. While he was holding obito, he was still half a body.

I never said he can't use rikudou techs i simply said he doesn't have rinnegan techs like madara's limbo or sasuke's s/t jutsu.

As far as the balls go it won't be an issue offensively coz he can simply dodge. He'll move in quickly and bisect him with his s/t jutsu before juubito can figure out what moves to use.


When Madara absorbed the god tree, he said he was immortal.

Before that, he could of died against Gai.

Same applied to Obito when he released the juubi/god tree from his body.

He was easily healing from everything as well.

The point is, is that no matter how you bruise, break, or even severe a Madara's body....

He be able to regenerate.

With the black orbs, he would of blocked a Sasuke's attack.

Obito may not have a special rinnegan technique like the original users, but he still has the rikudou Justus that can help aid in battle.

Using Chibakui tensei would be a huge effective way of diversion, or even flower tree world.

Sasuke can't simply dodge the black orbs....

Obito has proven to beat Tobirama + kcm minato's speed.

Speed is not an issue here, especially s/t hardly works on a rikudou level person.

Sasuke counterattack Madara right after he implanted the eyes but as soon as Madara jumped with kamui, he couldn't catch him.

So the few hits Sasuke would've able to land, Obito can regenerate.

Didn't even mention the bijuudama's destruct power to level more than a village or two.
 

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When Madara absorbed the god tree, he said he was immortal.

Before that, he could of died against Gai.

Same applied to Obito when he released the juubi/god tree from his body.

He was easily healing from everything as well.

The point is, is that no matter how you bruise, break, or even severe a Madara's body....

He be able to regenerate.

With the black orbs, he would of blocked a Sasuke's attack.

Obito may not have a special rinnegan technique like the original users, but he still has the rikudou Justus that can help aid in battle.

Using Chibakui tensei would be a huge effective way of diversion, or even flower tree world.

Sasuke can't simply dodge the black orbs....

Obito has proven to beat Tobirama + kcm minato's speed.

Speed is not an issue here, especially s/t hardly works on a rikudou level person.

Sasuke counterattack Madara right after he implanted the eyes but as soon as Madara jumped with kamui, he couldn't catch him.

So the few hits Sasuke would've able to land, Obito can regenerate.

Didn't even mention the bijuudama's destruct power to level more than a village or two.
Blocked sasuke's attack? Madara did not even react to sasuke. He only had time for a thought. Yes speed is an issue even without the s/t jutsu, sasuke's speed is still ridiculous. He was able to run down madara, who had big head start, with speed alone not his rinnegan tech coz he was out of range. He fodderized minato and tobirama but he couldn't do anything against sasuke except generate a thought. Juubito wouldn't have time to fire his truth seeking balls accurately, he could only use them for defense. If this was the case, sasuke's susanoo leveled a mini-meteor I'm sure it could damage the truth seeking shield, kind of like how guy's kick shattered it by kicking madara through it.

If madara didn't use kamui, sasuke would have gotten to him and hit him again. The time it takes to regenerate is quick but not as quick as the hits sasuke can dish out. Even naruto kicked the ball away, healed guy and almost landed a punch against madara before he was healed.

To use the juubidama, he must prepare it. It's very strong but sasuke will get to him before he can fire it at him. Plus even if he fires it at him, sasuke can just teleport behind him where it's safe, if he's in range.
 

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Sasuke wins.
 

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U cannot mid diff a jubbi junjurchi ..... People r overrating sasuke ... The SO6P ( god of damn near everything in this verse) that was his power (jubbi/rinnigan) u cannot mid diff a jubbi junjurchi Idc who u r it isn't possible the amount of power they have is too much and too damaging to the battle field that they r fighting on to be even considered Mid diff... It's one thing if ur saying sasuke wins ... (I kind of disagree with this jubbi tbb spam) but it's another if ur saying sasuke Merks or sasuke low/mid diff ....
Fanboys get ur head out of ur asses I fail to c how sasuke gets passed black orbs.... Let alone mid diffing jubbito..
 

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Sasuke low diff. Or maybe mid. Maybe.
 

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sasuke gets put in his place badly, for the slow people, that means sasukes losses ,and juubito murks him low diff.
 

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Your just looking at one. Here's one that I did a calculation for on my main account. This didn't even take into account perspective. Meaning this would be how big it was if it was at the front of the frame. In the scan, you can see the world curving in its spherical shape, putting this much farther back. Making the 25 miles tall that I came up with only a fraction of how big it really is.

Plus the multiversal community already has accepted calcs of it being a multi-continent buster. So there's really nothing to argue on that front. Bijudama's can be augmented with different amounts of chakra as well, so the one you showed could have just been a weaker one​

wait how are you sure that's correct..you can't really use those measurements just cuz it was drawn on paper

the distance or height may be different in the actual manga or from how kishi sees it
 

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Blocked sasuke's attack? Madara did not even react to sasuke. He only had time for a thought. Yes speed is an issue even without the s/t jutsu, sasuke's speed is still ridiculous. He was able to run down madara, who had big head start, with speed alone not his rinnegan tech coz he was out of range. He fodderized minato and tobirama but he couldn't do anything against sasuke except generate a thought. Juubito wouldn't have time to fire his truth seeking balls accurately, he could only use them for defense. If this was the case, sasuke's susanoo leveled a mini-meteor I'm sure it could damage the truth seeking shield, kind of like how guy's kick shattered it by kicking madara through it.

I posted that he would of blocked Sasuke with the orbs, but he didn't and that's why he's in half.

If Madara used those orbs, he wouldn't get past him at all.

Sasuke was only able to catch up because he stopped to get kakashi's eye.

That's when Sasuke took the opportunity to strike From behind, if Madara's back wasn't turned he wouldn't of touched him.

Like now, Madara's limbo clones are fighting in equal speed with naruto's clones.

Even Sasuke wasn't fast enough to hit Madara in the latest chapter.

If madara didn't use kamui, sasuke would have gotten to him and hit him again. The time it takes to regenerate is quick but not as quick as the hits sasuke can dish out. Even naruto kicked the ball away, healed guy and almost landed a punch against madara before he was healed.

Sasuke wasn't able to dish out any attack without naruto intervening.

He told naruto to fight the original body, while he took on the clone (or it was via versa).

Now look at the manga now, he isn't able to land a hit on Madara.

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Obito easily took out Minato's arm easily too, and blitz tobirama and Hashirama in mindless jinchuuriki.

Tobirama had to double his ftg by combining it with the 4th hokage to land a hit on Obito, and still wasn't able to beat him thanks to his regenerating abilities.

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So Sasuke can't destroy Obito's black orbs, especially when he has his staff.

Because even Obito was fast/strong enough to deflect 2 Gudodama's from Madara before he jumped to dimensions.

So posting that Sasuke will kick it away is just being unrealistic.

Especially when Obito has the black orbs, chakra flame arms on his shoulder, and mokuton flower tree in his arsenal.

To use the juubidama, he must prepare it. It's very strong but sasuke will get to him before he can fire it at him. Plus even if he fires it at him, sasuke can just teleport behind him where it's safe, if he's in range.

It takes time to prepare infinite tsukyomi, tree flower world: bijuudama only takes on clap, not even tobirama or minato was fast enough to react to it:

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No one was fast enough to stop Obito from using it before...

It takes literally no prep time to use this technique, Sasuke can't even out speed Obito.

Not to mention that Obito's orbs can be use for detonation too.

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Just by anybody, even s/t users get within his range would be stuck to an exploding orb.
 
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U cannot mid diff a jubbi junjurchi ..... People r overrating sasuke ... The SO6P ( god of damn near everything in this verse) that was his power (jubbi/rinnigan) u cannot mid diff a jubbi junjurchi Idc who u r it isn't possible the amount of power they have is too much and too damaging to the battle field that they r fighting on to be even considered Mid diff... It's one thing if ur saying sasuke wins ... (I kind of disagree with this jubbi tbb spam) but it's another if ur saying sasuke Merks or sasuke low/mid diff ....
Fanboys get ur head out of ur asses I fail to c how sasuke gets passed black orbs.... Let alone mid diffing jubbito..

If you fail to see how Sasuke gets passed the Gudo Dama, the only one who needs to take their head out of their asses is you. You don't even have a real argument or rebuttal, just a bunch of whining and moaning about how Sasuke doesn't mid diff Juubito because you don't like it.

Also, don't ever compare Obito to Hagoromo again.
 

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I posted that he would of blocked Sasuke with the orbs, but he didn't and that's why he's in half.

If Madara used those orbs, he wouldn't get past him at all.
he wouldn't be fast enough to use those balls. If guy can shatter the shield, I'm pretty sure sasuke can.

Sasuke was only able to catch up because he stopped to get kakashi's eye.

That's when Sasuke took the opportunity to strike From behind, if Madara's back wasn't turned he wouldn't of touched him.

Like now, Madara's limbo clones are fighting in equal speed with naruto's clones.

Even Sasuke wasn't fast enough to hit Madara in the latest chapter.
Madara had that huge head start coz it took him time to realize he used a substitution with the clone. Also he tried to activate his eye but to no avail coz he was out of range. Madara was already at full speed and quite a distance form sasuke before he even moved too so his head start was really big. When he stopped to grab his eye and insert in into his socket, that was really quick. (maybe 1 second). Also Madara only had enough time for a thought when he sensed sasuke, but sasuke had to notice madara had used a sub, listen to naruto who said "in front of madara, there's kakashi sensei" then take off. I think the time taken for madz to stop and take out kakashi's eye and have a thought is less than what sasuke did before he initiated pursuit. From this I can infer that sasuke was faster than madara. I can show manga scans if you want me to explain better

Sasuke wasn't able to dish out any attack without naruto intervening.

He told naruto to fight the original body, while he took on the clone (or it was via versa).

Now look at the manga now, he isn't able to land a hit on Madara.

Obito easily took out Minato's arm easily too.

Tobirama had to double his ftg by combining it with the 4th hokage, and still wasn't able to beat him.
Sasuke put a sword into his chest by himself. He wasn't able to land a hit coz there were more clones to protect him. Juubito doesn't have limbo so of course he'd hit him. Sasuke is much faster than minato, so he wouldn't take his arm off, or anything off. The rasengan with enton didn't work as it wasn't senjutsu. Sasuke has senjutsu and an incredible amount of power thanks to the sage so he would have no trouble damaging juubito.

So Sasuke can't destroy Obito's black orbs, especially when he has his staff.

Because even Obito was fast/strong enough to deflect 2 Gudodama's from Madara before he jumped to dimensions.

So posting that Sasuke will kick it away is just being unrealistic.

Especially when Obito has the black orbs, chakra flame arms on his shoulder, and mokuton flower tree in his arsenal.
Again, Guy cracked madara's shield, so sasuke's senjutsu can handle juubito's onmyoudon. Yes exactly. Obito can deflect those balls so sasuke can definitely do that since he has senjutsu.

It takes time to prepare infinite tsukyomi, tree flower world: bijuudama only takes on clap.

No one was fast enough to stop Obito from using it before...

It takes literally no prep time to use this technique, Sasuke can't even out speed Obito.

Not to mention that Obito's orbs can be use for detonation too.

Just by anybody, even s/t users get within his range would be stuck to an exploding orb.
That was before. No sasuke is really fast. Yes he can outspeed juubito, sasuke can outspeed madara (or at least be equal to madara)
If sasuke gets in range then he will use chidori and his s/t jutsu like he did on madara (with naruto's magnet release rasengan), which was instantaneous. But madara subbed with his clone that's why he didn't get hit.

So all he needs to do is get into his range (juubito is not fast enough to outrun sasuke) and he can teleport a senjutsu infused chidori attack right at juubito before he can blink.
 
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If you fail to see how Sasuke gets passed the Gudo Dama, the only one who needs to take their head out of their asses is you. You don't even have a real argument or rebuttal, just a bunch of whining and moaning about how Sasuke doesn't mid diff Juubito because you don't like it.

Also, don't ever compare Obito to Hagoromo again.
@bold OMG :snick:
 

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I posted that he would of blocked Sasuke with the orbs, but he didn't and that's why he's in half.

If Madara used those orbs, he wouldn't get past him at all.

Sasuke was only able to catch up because he stopped to get kakashi's eye.

That's when Sasuke took the opportunity to strike From behind, if Madara's back wasn't turned he wouldn't of touched him.

Like now, Madara's limbo clones are fighting in equal speed with naruto's clones.

Even Sasuke wasn't fast enough to hit Madara in the latest chapter.



Sasuke wasn't able to dish out any attack without naruto intervening.

He told naruto to fight the original body, while he took on the clone (or it was via versa).

Now look at the manga now, he isn't able to land a hit on Madara.

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Obito easily took out Minato's arm easily too, and blitz tobirama and Hashirama in mindless jinchuuriki.

Tobirama had to double his ftg by combining it with the 4th hokage to land a hit on Obito, and still wasn't able to beat him thanks to his regenerating abilities.

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So Sasuke can't destroy Obito's black orbs, especially when he has his staff.

Because even Obito was fast/strong enough to deflect 2 Gudodama's from Madara before he jumped to dimensions.

So posting that Sasuke will kick it away is just being unrealistic.

Especially when Obito has the black orbs, chakra flame arms on his shoulder, and mokuton flower tree in his arsenal.



It takes time to prepare infinite tsukyomi, tree flower world: bijuudama only takes on clap, not even tobirama or minato was fast enough to react to it:

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No one was fast enough to stop Obito from using it before...

It takes literally no prep time to use this technique, Sasuke can't even out speed Obito.

Not to mention that Obito's orbs can be use for detonation too.

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Just by anybody, even s/t users get within his range would be stuck to an exploding orb.

Sasuke will be able to get past the orbs no problem. He uses his yin chidori which has the sages hermit chakra to cut through any orb. False madara didn't stop after getting kakashis eye, he took it wwhile on the move but turned back and saw sasuke near him and next tin he was sliced. Your next points are fail as sasuke never used his top speed in last chapter, madara came out with four limbos which is why sasuke wasn't able to get to him. Next points are also fail, your comparing tobirama and minatos reactions with sasuke. Obito reacted to them doesn't mean he will react to sasuke. They may have used ftg however their movements and stiking speeds are not instant and up to par with sasukes who was shown to cut through madara with full speed. Sm rinnegan madara easily reacted to tobirama blitz but couldn't to sasuke. Juubito reactions are inferiors to madara make no mistake, if sasuke goes at him full speed with his chidori spear sword he will be cut in half, let's be serious. If he takes to the skies sasuke will follow suit with his Ps and continue to attack. We've seen how fast he's ps was when he slicing those rocks, his agility and slashes will be a nightmare for juubito in mid air. Sasukes senjutsu v3 was capable of holding his own against juubito for a while now replace that v3 with a Ps with mountain level slahes and it will be a different story. Not saying sasuke will rape him but he definitely has what it takes to defeat juubito, you guys should not make it seem like he has no chance.
 
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Juubito erases sasuke with a bijudama
 

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he wouldn't be fast enough to use those balls. If guy can shatter the shield, I'm pretty sure sasuke can.

You're assuming again

Rikudou Obito beat every s/t user in speed so far, Sasuke will be no different.

Especially when Madara wasn't fast enough to get Obito too, so using Madara as a means to hype up Sasuke's feat is futile.

faster =/= stronger

Gai didn't shatter Madara's orbs:

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Try again, as you can see minato's ftg and kakashi's kamui created openings to help Gai.

He didn't break the black orbs...

Even minato's ftg was faster than Rikudou Madara, something that even kcm minato wasn't fast enough to do to Obito.

Fast does not equal strong.

Sasuke can't shattered Obito's orbs on his own, he'll need naruto to help him.

Madara had that huge head start coz it took him time to realize he used a substitution with the clone. Also he tried to activate his eye but to no avail coz he was out of range. Madara was already at full speed and quite a distance form sasuke before he even moved too so his head start was really big. When he stopped to grab his eye and insert in into his socket, that was really quick. (maybe 1 second). Also Madara only had enough time for a thought when he sensed sasuke, but sasuke had to notice madara had used a sub, listen to naruto who said "in front of madara, there's kakashi sensei" then take off. I think the time taken for madz to stop and take out kakashi's eye and have a thought is less than what sasuke did before he initiated pursuit. From this I can infer that sasuke was faster than madara. I can show manga scans if you want me to explain better

Doesn't matter if you think Madara had a head start, and for what exactly?

A race?

This is a battle, and if moving out of Sasuke's rinnegan range makes him slower in speed....

He will definitely no win against Rikudou Obito.

Yu can even see Madara stop and take kakashi's eyes here:

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It's when he stopped that Sasuke was able to catch him from behind:

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Again, using Madara as a means of speed is pointless because even Obito with no chakra left beat Madara in speed:

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Sasuke put a sword into his chest by himself. He wasn't able to land a hit coz there were more clones to protect him. Juubito doesn't have limbo so of course he'd hit him. Sasuke is much faster than minato, so he wouldn't take his arm off, or anything off. The rasengan with enton didn't work as it wasn't senjutsu. Sasuke has senjutsu and an incredible amount of power thanks to the sage so he would have no trouble damaging juubito.

Obito has flower tree and chakra arms to guard himself too.

Sasuke is not faster than minato...

Even with senjustu, they still weren't able to beat his black orbs...

Sasuke alone can't break them

Again, Guy cracked madara's shield, so sasuke's senjutsu can handle juubito's onmyoudon. Yes exactly. Obito can deflect those balls so sasuke can definitely do that since he has senjutsu.

No, no he didn't

no it doesn't work that way

That was before. No sasuke is really fast. Yes he can outspeed juubito, sasuke can outspeed madara (or at least be equal to madara)
If sasuke gets in range then he will use chidori and his s/t jutsu like he did on madara (with naruto's magnet release rasengan), which was instantaneous. But madara subbed with his clone that's why he didn't get hit.

So all he needs to do is get into his range (juubito is not fast enough to outrun sasuke) and he can teleport a senjutsu infused chidori attack right at juubito before he can blink.


Obito>>>Sasuke in speed, that's not even debatable just look at the scans above.

Obito beat Madara in speed, again look at the scans above

Madara beat Sasuke in using a clone substitute from the very beginning, so I don't know why you even brought that up.

Get in Obito's range?

Obito is way faster than Sasuke first of all, and even Tobirama and Minato (who are faster wanted to stay away from Obito's range):

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Do you know what would happen if Sasuke comes close to Obito?

He would rip his soul out dead:

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Or blow him up with the black orbs:

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If you fail to see how Sasuke gets passed the Gudo Dama, the only one who needs to take their head out of their asses is you. You don't even have a real argument or rebuttal, just a bunch of whining and moaning about how Sasuke doesn't mid diff Juubito because you don't like it.

Also, don't ever compare Obito to Hagoromo again.
Insult all u want KG
u still failed to post evidence how he gets passed the black orbs (tbh the only reason sasuke was able to cut madara is most likely because his orbs were taken from him by kakashi via kamoi against gai we dnt know if sasuke has the power to break through the orbs...)
Also what is he going to do against jubbi tbb spam ??

Lastly my whining u say ... Not really whining it's just exasperation of the overrating of sasuke to the point y'all say he mid/low diff a jubbi junjurchi

Like what the **** has he shown to even remotely prove this ?
 

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Obito is out of sasuke legue

I'm glad that a pure Sasuke fan as yourself knows this...

Obito is out of Sasuke's league, he assended leagues-dimensions ahead of Sasuke U_U
 
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Hax > DC

Juubito can't counter Sasuke's speed and neither is he durable enough to withstand Sasuke's attacks.​
 
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