Current Madara defeats prime non edo Hashirama with......

[Fair Warning]

Surely you aren't comparing the small-scale Shinra Tensei used by Pein to the massive attack that completely pushed aside nine Tailed Beasts created by the superior Madara?

Hashirama aint gonna get caught in that. Besides, he soloed all those beasts himself and contained them.

 

[Senju Bean]

sure liar , sure.

Calm the f*ck down. You need some Xanax.

 

[Aya San]

Problem is the technique specially made for that. Hashirama has already described it works.. if someone has his SM.. he can restrain them. If you are to say something against that, you must provide evidence , for us to not use that technique.

Not using it, while knowing it'll restrain him = restricting it.

It'll restrain him but at what condition? Does Hashirama have to choke Madara like Madara did to him or what?

 

[KingHashirama]

It'll restrain him but at what condition? Does Hashirama have to choke Madara like Madara did to him or what?

Via Chakra. so seems like no choking is there. And it seems like its a jutsu, not a physical technique.

But from that we know that its the same sh*t as Naruto/Sasuke, Hiruzen/Danzo... Good guy is always 1 step ahead.

 

[xcoyote]

He can tank it in SM,Madara proved that SM durability at least against blunt attacks is not that bad.

 

[KidGamer65]

Hashirama has survived worse than Rinbo Hengoku. A repulsive force knocking him around isn't going to defeat or kill him, especially not in Sage Mode, unless you believe Tsunade with Byakugo active will die to Rinbo Hengoku alone as SM Hashirama's healing is the same as Tsunade's.

Madara got smacked around by the Bijuu and was intact and able to move, yet people think SM Hashirama is going to die to Rinbo Hengoku? lol, I can't be surprised though, new techniques are always wanked to high heaven and back.

Current Madara can defeat Hashirama assuming he can also use Shinsuusenju, considering Spiral Zetsu was able to use it I have no doubt in my mind that Madara can make his own. Unless he gets some more extremely OP Rinnegan feats (Which he probably will) that's the only way he'll beat Hashirama.

 

[SandBurial]

Does it matter? We saw how it knocked back nine Tailed Beasts. OP has a point, imagine that much power hitting a human being.

Tailed Beasts are obviously much bigger and slower targets, so yes, it does matter.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Tailed Beasts are obviously much bigger and slower targets, so yes, it does matter.

Tailed Beasts have been shown to move pretty fast, like the Three- and Five-Tails. Also, the fact that they are bigger means that when a technique of that scale hits Hashirama, it'll do even more damage.

 

[Penguin]

"restrain him" ??

it was a fight to the death/close between him and the older/EMS Madara.

alright, i have a question ??

the thread title says the "current Madara" defeats Hashirama, so why are you guys even having this conversation since the current Madara already wrecked Hashirama with one move ??

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Hashirama cannot see this coming or see the Rinbo Hengoku.

It wasn't like Madara had black rods in Hashirama and focused his chakra in the rods and paralyzed Hashirama. ._.

That's a completely baseless assumption, so it doesn't stand. That's no better than saying "Hey maybe Scorch Release has some special property that allows it to bypass Juubito's immunity to ninjutsu."

Edit: Oh the irony

We have only seen it work on Bijuu is all I am saying. We have no idea how the jutsu work, and even if it can work on humans. It was just an example. I never said it couldn't. I am just throwing ideas out there. No need to falsely call me out. But even if it hits Hashirama, if it can, it wouldn't kill him given the durability feats of SM.

 

[Punk Hazard]

It wasn't like Madara had black rods in Hashirama and focused his chakra in the rods and paralyzed Hashirama. ._.



We have only seen it work on Bijuu is all I am saying. We have no idea how the jutsu work, and even if it can work on humans. It was just an example. I never said it couldn't. I am just throwing ideas out there. No need to falsely call me out. But even if it hits Hashirama, if it can, it wouldn't kill him given the durability feats of SM.

It was used once. The fact that its usage was on Bijuu is a horrible reason as to why it would ONLY work on Bijuu. Falsely call you out? How am I falsely calling you out? You threw out a baseless assumption, and I pointed that out. Dafuq you think the reply button is for?

 

[Senju Bean]

Hashirama has survived worse than Rinbo Hengoku. A repulsive force knocking him around isn't going to defeat or kill him, especially not in Sage Mode, unless you believe Tsunade with Byakugo active will die to Rinbo Hengoku alone as SM Hashirama's healing is the same as Tsunade's.

Madara got smacked around by the Bijuu and was intact and able to move, yet people think SM Hashirama is going to die to Rinbo Hengoku? lol, I can't be surprised though, new techniques are always wanked to high heaven and back.

Current Madara can defeat Hashirama assuming he can also use Shinsuusenju, considering Spiral Zetsu was able to use it I have no doubt in my mind that Madara can make his own. Unless he gets some more extremely OP Rinnegan feats (Which he probably will) that's the only way he'll beat Hashirama.

It would be 9 times stronger than the ones that took out the Bijuu you know. It would be concentrated in one spot.

Besides, Madara didn't break a sweat from taking out the Bijuu, and judging by Pain's battle with Naruto, if no fatigue is shown for deva attacks, then it's not being used to the max.

Until Madara looks like this,

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We can assume he was holding back with the Bijuu.

A RH that can make Madara's nose bleed? Now that would be truly powerful.

 

[Oblivionx]

he doesn't need any extra tech to beat hashirama.. he has everything hashirama has plus susano and rinnegan so as he stated, right now he is leagues above hashirama....!

 

[TheSages456]

yup, the technique that didnt scratch gaara one shots hashirama.

 

[Son Ryuto Uzumaki]

He would Man Handle him again with no fail

 

[Naijakid]

Hashirama gave Sauce the jutsu to one shot Madara

 

[Senju Bean]

yup, the technique that didnt scratch gaara one shots hashirama.

It didn't hit Gaara. It hit the Bijuu.

Madara wasn't aiming for Gaara.

 

[YellowFang]

Rimbo Hengoku

What's that? I never found it explained enough to be discussed...

 

[Senju Bean]

Rimbo Hengoku

What's that? I never found it explained enough to be discussed...

Madara took out Godzilla sized beasts each one weighing tens of thousands of tons just by looking at them.

What more do you need?

 

[Sendai Aka No Ou]

^essentially. But we already know that.

 

[Senju Bean]

So you're basically admitting Kakashi solos?

He does, with the exception of Preta path or Izanagi users. But thats for a different thread.