Current Kakashi vs BM Minato

[KCN]

kakashi easily. hes surpassed his teacher.

 

[ARGUS]

Kakashi wrecks him

 

[Demonic.]

Funny how kakashi fapboys are happy. Kakashi needed someone else's power to be relevant again. How pathetic.

OT: kakashi wins

 

[Demonic.]

Funny how kakashi fapboys are happy. Kakashi needed someone else's power to be relevant again. How pathetic.

OT: kakashi wins

 

[Black Wolf]

Funny how kakashi fapboys are happy. Kakashi needed someone else's power to be relevant again. How pathetic.

OT: kakashi wins

Just like how Minato is using a foreign immortal beast in this thread.

 

[Migster257]

Just like how Minato is using a foreign Bijuu in this thread.

Don't worry. He reacts negatively to anything related to Kakashi. He feels better about his fav because his fav doesn't have borrowed power. He's also ignorant to the fact that everyone has borrowed power from the tree, but that's none of my business.

 

[Demonic.]

Don't worry. He reacts negatively to anything related to Kakashi. He feels better about his fav because his fav doesn't have borrowed power. He's also ignorant to the fact that everyone has borrowed power from the tree, but that's none of my business.

Lol. That's not it at all. Kakashi has received the biggest Asspull power up in the history of the manga. Before this power up he was irrelevant. But if that makes you feel good then fine. Kakashi beats BM Minato neg difficulty. Kudos.

 

[V h o]

Kakashi wins, double kumai is fast since it made it into Kagaya's dimension before Naruto did.

 

[Black Wolf]

Lol. That's not it at all. Kakashi has received the biggest Asspull power up in the history of the manga. Before this power up he was irrelevant. But if that makes you feel good then fine. Kakashi beats BM Minato neg difficulty. Kudos.

My issue isn't with what you think happens in the match-up. You could say BM Minato wins, and as long as you have a good, well written argument, there wouldn't be a problem. Sure, I can disagree with your argument, but that is the purpose of a debate. What is problematic is going to every Kakashi thread I've seen yet and posting utter nonsense under the guise of a serious argument.

Kakashi had his Sharingan, which he had for 18 years and grew accustomed to, torn out of his eye. His entire fighting style was centered around it; of course he will suffer when it suddenly disappears. If that happened to Sasuke or Itachi, they'd have been in a similar situation, if not worse. Tear out anyone's power that they've had for most of their lives, and they'd have fared no better.

Naruto had the Kyuubi torn out of him, and he was in a comparable "useless" situation. Hell, Naruto wasn't just useless when the Kyuubi was torn out - he flat out died when he lost the Kyuubi, and it took the combined effort of Sakura, Gaara, Obito, Kakashi, Minato, and the freakin' Sage of the Six Paths to save him. Guess what brought Naruto back? You guessed it; a comparable "asspull powerup," almost identical to Kakashi's.

Your problem seems to be with Kakashi rather than the power-up itself, because both Sasuke and Naruto were gifted Rinnegans, Rikudo powers, and a variety of Bijuu and truth seeking orbs, yet you do not seem to have a problem with that. It's fine to dislike Kakashi, but at the very least try to keep it together enough so that you can post a coherent argument rather than the garbage you have been posting lately.

 

[Demonic.]

My issue isn't with what you think happens in the match-up. You could say BM Minato wins, and as long as you have a good, well written argument, there wouldn't be a problem. Sure, I can disagree with your argument, but that is the purpose of a debate. What is problematic is going to every Kakashi thread I've seen yet and posting utter nonsense under the guise of a serious argument.

Kakashi had his Sharingan, which he had for 18 years and grew accustomed to, torn out of his eye. His entire fighting style was centered around it; of course he will suffer when it suddenly disappears. If that happened to Sasuke or Itachi, they'd have been in a similar situation, if not worse. Tear out anyone's power that they've had for most of their lives, and they'd have fared no better.

Naruto had the Kyuubi torn out of him, and he was in a comparable "useless" situation. Hell, Naruto wasn't just useless when the Kyuubi was torn out - he flat out died when he lost the Kyuubi, and it took the combined effort of Sakura, Gaara, Obito, Kakashi, Minato, and the freakin' Sage of the Six Paths to save him. Guess what brought Naruto back? You guessed it; a comparable "asspull powerup," almost identical to Kakashi's.

Your problem seems to be with Kakashi rather than the power-up itself, because both Sasuke and Naruto were gifted Rinnegans, Rikudo powers, and a variety of Bijuu and truth seeking orbs, yet you do not seem to have a problem with that. It's fine to dislike Kakashi, but at the very least try to keep it together enough so that you can post a coherent argument rather than the garbage you have been posting lately.

Naruto and Sasuke were already top tier before the power up. Kakashi himself admitted he was useless before his giant asspull, ghost Obito power up. There's a difference.

 

[Black Wolf]

Naruto and Sasuke were already top tier before the power up. Kakashi himself admitted he was useless before his giant asspull, ghost Obito power up. There's a difference.

Again, you fail to grasp this very basic concept; losing a power that you have had for your entire ninja life will make any character in the manga useless, or drop several tiers down at least. Kakashi with his Mangekyo was a solid fighter, and only became "useless" when he got it pulled out by the strongest character in the manga.

Pull out Sasuke's Mangekyo, and would he have fared any better? No, he would have been in a similar situation as Kakashi. Pull out Itachi's Mangekyo, and the same thing would happen to him.

Naruto without Kyuubi was not "top tier" - he was dead, and on life-support. In a sense, he was even more useless than Kakashi was after he lost his Mangekyo because it took the combined effort of numerous characters, including SotSP to resuscitate him.

Again, hating Kakashi does not justify the garbage posts you have been posting. Debates should be neutral of the fanboy garbage you are continuously citing as a basis for the nonsense you are posting.

 

[A v i]

Just like how Minato is using a foreign immortal beast in this thread.

Then how about removing foreign powers from them and see what they are truly capable of?

OT: Kakashi wins this.

Kakashi has sage's power so only someone with Sage's power can fight him.

Lol. That's not it at all. Kakashi has received the biggest Asspull power up in the history of the manga. Before this power up he was irrelevant. But if that makes you feel good then fine. Kakashi beats BM Minato neg difficulty. Kudos.

It may be true but it has nothing to do with this thread. Ass pull or not Kakashi has PS now and all of us should get over it.

 

[Migster257]

Naruto and Sasuke were already top tier before the power up. Kakashi himself admitted he was useless before his giant asspull, ghost Obito power up. There's a difference.

Black wolf is wrecking you with great arguments,

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[Black Wolf]

Then how about removing foreign powers from them and see what they are truly capable of?

OT: Kakashi wins this.

Kakashi has sage's power so only someone with Sage's power can fight him.

Except that isn't what this thread is, and discussing Kakashi vs. Alive Minato would be off topic.

And yes, Minato is stronger than Sharingan-less Kakashi, if that's what your getting at. My point is that Kakashi spent his entire life with the Sharingan, moreso than Sasuke and Itachi did, and taking it away will cripple him just like it would have crippled them. If you want to discuss "fairness," you'd have to give Kakashi back the 18 years he spent with Sharingan and allow him to train and develop without it. And if you do that, I'd guarantee Kakashi would have done something to compromise for lack of Sharingan.

People tend to forget that the guy was a prodigy before even getting Sharingan. Becoming a Jonin, learning Rasengan, and inventing Chidori all before his 13th birthday is an attestation to Kakashi's 100% natural, Sharingan-less potential.

 

[Omar19992010]

Kakashi would slaughter him.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Funny how kakashi fapboys are happy. Kakashi needed someone else's power to be relevant again. How pathetic.

OT: kakashi wins

You seem to be mad for what though?

 

[A v i]

Except that isn't what this thread is, and discussing Kakashi vs. Alive Minato would be off topic.

I have clearly mentioned same thing in my prv post. (look at my quote to An Awesome Senju)

And yes, Minato is stronger than Sharingan-less Kakashi, if that's what your getting at. My point is that Kakashi spent his entire life with the Sharingan, moreso than Sasuke and Itachi did, and taking it away will cripple him just like it would have crippled them. If you want to discuss "fairness," you'd have to give Kakashi back the 18 years he spent with Sharingan and allow him to train and develop without it. And if you do that, I'd guarantee Kakashi would have done something to compromise for lack of Sharingan.

He's no match for Base Minato even if he has Sharingan. 18 years of training with Sharingan >>18 years of training without Sharingan so Minato beats him even if u give him 18Y worth of training.

People tend to forget that the guy was a prodigy before even getting Sharingan. Becoming a Jonin, learning Rasengan, and inventing Chidori all before his 13th birthday is an attestation to Kakashi's 100% natural, Sharingan-less potential.

No one is denying the fact that Kakashi is a genius.At the very least i have no reason to do so.But Kakashi is no match for Minato. (except current Kakashi).

 

[Ansatsuken]

We've got kakashis news feats... are they enough to beat bm minato?

Kakshi take this battle

Kamui raikiri is to dangerous if minato un aware of kakashi intangibility activation when he charge with Raikiri

Kamui small shuriken can reappear and appear so suddenly closer at Minato and hit him when minato not having a clue what going on actually.

Minato can FTG when he aware of shuriken but Kakashi just need to focus the nearest Kunai that having possibilities for Minato reappearing and kamui snipe him in split second.

If said Minato reappear with FTG nearing Kakashi and trying to slash him, he can go intangible and use kamui snipe at Minato dominant arms to disable him

another advantage of Kakashi is his Susanoo able to fly and evade Kyuubi mode attack.

Larger target but not larger as Kaguya TSB is in Kakashi Limit to kamui snipe it

 

[Black Wolf]

He's no match for Base Minato even if he has Sharingan. 18 years of training with Sharingan >>18 years of training without Sharingan so Minato beats him even if u give him 18Y worth of training.

You do not know that.

No one is denying the fact that Kakashi is a genius.At the very least i have no reason to do so.But Kakashi is no match for Minato. (except current Kakashi).

Sure Kakashi is a match for Minato. He has a better and more versatile arsenal, Genjutsu offense, and a Kamui that is faster than 14 year old Obito's. He may lose, which is fine, but they aren't on different tiers.

Anyway, you are derailing this thread.

 

[A v i]

You do not know that.

It won't take a genius to realize that it is pretty easy to learn jutsu's with Sharingan. Hell, he can't even use his signature move without Sharingan. Kakashi without sharingan can never get better results than Kakashi with Sharingan no matter how badly u look at it.
Simple as that.

Sure Kakashi is a match for Minato. He has a better and more versatile arsenal, Genjutsu offense, and a Kamui that is faster than 14 year old Obito's. He may lose, which is fine, but they aren't on different tiers.

Kakashi's kamui being faster than 14Y old Obito is pure speculation with no manga back up.To be honest, Obito can do much better than Kakashi as he has intangibility. Kakashi's long range kamui is good for nothing against Minato. Base Minato beats 1MS Kakashi below mid dif.

Anyway, you are derailing this thread.

You are such a good member.