Current Kakashi doesnt exist (explanation)!!!!

[YellowFlash1]

Its a theory however just because his chakra was replenished doesnt mean that it wouldnt reduce with the amount of sharingan based abilities/ninjutsu he has used. Secondly edo tensei was said to grant infinite chakra, no edo ever mentioned anything about their chakra until later when madara did. Basically just because kakshi hasnt mentioned it doesnt mean anything

You're going completely on speculation ..... Nothing else and trying to come up with a way instate of admitting that kakashi has more chakara tbh! Don't you think kakashi would of noticed and used his intelligence and kept getting his chakara restored!

You're whole argument is based on nothing but observation and pointing out parts of the story and saying because kish never mentioned something about something else that was true mean because he never mentioned this that you're right?

Naruto and bee weren't around when he took on Kabuza and 7 legendary sword men! He was fine when he started helping out naruto and bee out also! There is another explanation also which is food pills ... I just think kakashi has improved due to plot

 

[NarutoKage2]

I actually thought it was the 8, and not the 9 tails that may have replenished Kakashi's chakra to an extent that let him use kamuii so many times. Gai, for example is on the kyuubi but his stamina is more or less normal(for a master at taijutsu).

 

[Blaze Release]

Read the entire thing and it was a very interesting read, thank you for making this thread blaze.

This idea of a new Kakashi with a non-existent stamina limit has always bugged me, it was like he went from exhausting himself with a single use of Kamui to infinite uses.

Your theory is also very plausible as Naruto is a Uzuamki (genetically similar to Senju) which increases the yang release effect of his Kurama cloak.

White Zetsu is also a creation from Hashirama's own DNA which provides a reasonable explanation for why it replenishes chakra but what do you think Samehada's reason is for its chakra related relationship or is it entirely based on absorbing other people's chakra.

However Kakashi only came into contact with Naruto recently in the Tobi fight so how does this explain his keeping his sharingan out for the entire span of the war starting from the 7 Ninja swords man fight ?

Firstly im not saying bm cloak is the only thing becaue all the ninja's on the front line have achieved a similar feat to kakashi because they were at the front from the very start therefore pills couldve also been given, which wouldve helped alot. Secondly we didnt see how many technique's exactly he used against the swordsmen and zetsu, so whilst he mightve contained chakra from limited ninjutsu feat, this might explain how he was still able to fight until it reached the paths where my theory comes into play. So perhaps lminted ninjutsu is what allowed him to keep the sharingan constantly enough to reach tobi and his paths for his chakra to be replenished

 

[Bogard]

Or maybe Bee just replenished his chakra? I mean, seriously.. this seems pretty self explanatory.

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He was talking to himself at that moment(notice that there is no circles meaning there was no discussion there). In order to create a huge kamui, he needed time to form his chakra, and it's the reason why he says that. He only needed Bee to put him in a good position to fire Gedo Mazos neck with a kamui(Gedo Mazo being huge himself and they were far from him)

 

[Gold Lightning]

Or maybe Bee just replenished his chakra? I mean, seriously.. this seems pretty self explanatory.

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Also, him fighting the 7 swordsmen is irrelevant in terms of the stamina he has in the current fight because he could have been healed since them. And as for using Kamui 4 times, well, seeing as two of the objects were extremely small in comparison to things like Deidaras bomb, and Sasukes arrow I don't think that's too far fetched. The only thing that makes me think otherwise is that he used two friggin' Kage Bunshins. So yeah, he was either helped by Bee, or it was because of Kurama as that would also explain why Guy is still standing. Good thread.

Being healed doesn't replenish chakra. Except with Karins special ability, she heals and slightly restores the users chakra I think.

 

[Negative Knight]

Firstly im not saying bm cloak is the only thing becaue all the ninja's on the front line have achieved a similar feat to kakashi because they were at the front from the very start therefore pills couldve also been given, which wouldve helped alot. Secondly we didnt see how many technique's exactly he used against the swordsmen and zetsu, so whilst he mightve contained chakra from limited ninjutsu feat, this might explain how he was still able to fight until it reached the paths where my theory comes into play. So perhaps lminted ninjutsu is what allowed him to keep the sharingan constantly enough to reach tobi and his paths for his chakra to be replenished

The solider pills is a likely side excuse for Kishi to use. However the idea of Kakashi's limited ninjutsu use could work as another way that he conserved his chakra but this seems unlikely as if i do recall correctly he said something about a rampage "of 1000s Jutsus he copied over the years" which is the opposite case of what you've just stated.

Most likely he used solider pills as a short term method to carry him through the Seven Ninja Swords men fight and then reached Naruto (with an activated cloak) as a more stable method of replenishing his chakra along with an added chakra boost.

But re-considering your examples of how yang release replenishes chakra they all require some sort of physical contact with the vector giving out chakra, why would Naruto's KM/BM cloak act any differently to them ?

 

[Yo pappy]

He was talking to himself at that moment(notice that there is no braquets meaning there was no discussion there). In order to create a huge kamui, he needed time to form his chakra, and it's the reason why he says that. He only needed Bee to put him in a good position to fire Gedo Mazos neck with a kamui(Gedo Mazo being huge himself and they were far from him)

I'm aware of the brackets, and I could see why you would think that, but I doubt it. Something about it's timing and placement... I can't quite put my finger on it. Also, out of all the characters Kakashi has spent most of his time in contact with Bee. It's just a hunch, but I can't really say since Kishi seems to have simply let it happen without any real explanation as to how.

Being healed doesn't replenish chakra. Except with Karins special ability, she heals and slightly restores the users chakra I think.

Oh c'mon, there has to be at least one fodder who can do this. We got lames using FTG now so I don't wanna hear it. lol

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[OnPoint]

Kakashi fanboys you're ridiculing yourselves by just dismissing what was said in this thread; it was actually a good read and seems rather plausible.

 

[Bogard]

I'm aware of the brackets, and I could see why you would think that, but I doubt it. Something about it's timing and placement... I can't quite put my finger on it. Also, out of all the characters Kakashi has spent most of his time in contact with Bee. It's just a hunch, but I can't really say since Kishi seems to have simply let it happen without any real explanation as to how.

So you're actually saying that if you're in contact with Bee, it gives you chakra?

Kakashi fanboys you're ridiculing yourselves by just dismissing what was said in this thread; it was actually a good read and seems rather plausible.

I don't know where we're dismissing what he says when 99% of his statements are baseless

 

[Simplified]

Look, a thread that isn't about tobi, rin, madara, or one saying "OH GAWD KAKASHI IS TOP 10 NOW"
It's deff possible, & you put this together nicely. +rep.

Edit: Crap, need to spread some rep around first. Anyone willing to step up to the plate and make a good thread like this?

 

[EliteKakashi]

I read and all the stuff is baseless. Like for the thing about Kyubis chakra, nothing implies that. If it really played a role like you say, Kishimoto would have tried to mention it even once during the fight, which wasn't obviously the case. The same goes for the pills that some people love to mention about Kakashi, when pills are things that Kishi never made Kakashi used, so don't know why suddenly Kakashi would use it. We could still continue to overthink when we don't want to accept facts: Kakashi improved, that's the only reason here

The rate of Kakashi's improvement doesn't make any sense, though. He was exhausted just after using kamui to warp away Sasuke's sussano arrows, and that was only with a short taijutsu altercation prior to that, so he had no other reason to be exhausted. And now he's fought the 7 swordsmen, zetsu clones and bijuu, then used kamui 4 times before finally falling down?

There's something other than natural improvement going on, that or Kishi will just play it off as plot no jutsu/will of fire bullshit.

It effecting his sharingan efficiency is possible, but I doubt it being the case. He was confident in his ability to warp Madara instantly after his altercation with Sasuke. I think he simply improved his mangekyou to that level.

 

[Bogard]

The rate of Kakashi's improvement doesn't make any sense, though. He was exhausted just after using kamui to warp away Sasuke's sussano arrows, and that was only with a short taijutsu altercation prior to that, so he had no other reason to be exhausted. And now he's fought the 7 swordsmen, zetsu clones and bijuu, then used kamui 4 times before finally falling down?

There's something other than natural improvement going on, that or Kishi will just play it off as plot no jutsu/will of fire bullshit.

It effecting his sharingan efficiency is possible, but I doubt it being the case. He was confident in his ability to warp Madara instantly after his altercation with Sasuke. I think he simply improved his mangekyou to that level.

You forget Sasukes improvement during the kage council? In one day, against Raikage he had a hard time just to create a Susanoo, but against Danzo he was spamming it like it was nothing. So i think it would not have been the first time that we see Kishi making a character improve himself in such a short time. Sasukes case is even worse since he did all that improvement just in one day in the contrary of Kakashi. Since his fight against Sasuke, it probably took 2weeks or more

 

[narutokage99]

Your opinion or kishimoto?

I choose Kishimoto.

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[Yo pappy]

So you're actually saying that if you're in contact with Bee, it gives you chakra?

Tsunade was able to give Onoki chakra by simply touching him, Orochimaru was able to take his chakra back from Kabuto by touching him, Son Goku was able to give Naruto chakra trough a fist-bump. What was your question again?

 

[Evapple]

The point you're discussing is interesting though.. Everyone agrees that Kakashi has a increase of stamina, but how is the question.. It may be improvement after using the Sharingan over time or something? I don't know about the chakra replenishment actually.. =DD

 

[EliteKakashi]

You forget Sasukes improvement during the kage council? In one day, against Raikage he had a hard time just to create a Susanoo, but against Danzo he was spamming it like it was nothing. So i think it would not have been the first time that we see Kishi making a character improve himself in such a short time. Sasukes case is even worse since he did all that improvement just in one day in the contrary of Kakashi. Since his fight against Sasuke, it probably took 2weeks or more

I don't recall him having a hard time creating susano against the Raikage. Yeah, it hurt his body, but it hurt him vs Danzo as well. He didn't give a shit at that point, though. He wanted Danzo(and Kakashi, for that matter) dead.

 

[Talal]

I don't think so. It's just Kishi dismissing the things he previously said.

 

[Tendou00]

People fail to see where was the plot no jutsu concerning Kakashi.
It was against Sasuke when he used 1 kamui was a bit exhausted for some seconds but nothing much.Plot let Naruto save Sakura and weakned a bit kakashi for some seconds.

Current Kakashi's improvement is logic.

Like 200 chapter ago against Pein Kakashi proved how his chakra improved.

-4 raikiri
-2 doton jutsu
-1 lighting clone
-1 lighting wolf
-2 kamui

Now at chapter 600 his improvement is logic since the fight against Zabuza his stanima is getting better after each fight.

 

[ulqui0rra]

This theory has been postulated before, but, you did an awesome job on explaining it. Didn't read all of it; I skimmed through. Nice work man. ^^

OT: LOL, after reading posts above me there seem to be some crybabies. :sy:




What's wrong? Itachi > Kakashi.

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you know what , by the latest feats
kakashi > itachi

you itachi fanboys can't comprehend the latest development in the story when kakashi is fighting like a warrior .

you guys don't like to see anybody doing good in battle except uchiha

and this is what the thread is all about .

you wan't this war to end uchiha way , :flaw:but that won't happen .

 

[Blaze Release]

The solider pills is a likely side excuse for Kishi to use. However the idea of Kakashi's limited ninjutsu use could work as another way that he conserved his chakra but this seems unlikely as if i do recall correctly he said something about a rampage "of 1000s Jutsus he copied over the years" which is the opposite case of what you've just stated.

Most likely he used solider pills as a short term method to carry him through the Seven Ninja Swords men fight and then reached Naruto (with an activated cloak) as a more stable method of replenishing his chakra along with an added chakra boost.

But re-considering your examples of how yang release replenishes chakra they all require some sort of physical contact with the vector giving out chakra, why would Naruto's KM/BM cloak act any differently to them ?

Never dismissed soldier pills though this theory is based on kurama's chakra. Secondly people are forgetting that this theory is actually split in two. The first one being kakahsi's chakra. The second one being yang release from the fox making the sharingan's powers stronger, something that nobody has commented on so far.

The 'physical' contact in this case is kakashi being inside the chakra cloak.

Off topic, people are overestimating me and getting hurt about a theory. Ive made quiet alot of theories. Some were true like izanami/izanagi. Some were false, like oro taking over madara's body xd. Some havent been clarified yet, like the rinnegan theory.

What im trying to say is that they were all theories and in all of these theories i had enough back up to launch them, has nothing to do hating on a character/s. Theory: "a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural and subject to experimentation, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact". Sure kakashi isnt one of my fav character, but then again you can say that about 99% of the characters in naruto.