Current Kabuto is immensely powerful, still.

[Logical Sasori]

-Kabuto stole all those powers
-Kabuto stole all of those powers and SM from Orochimaru
-Kabuto doesn't have DSM anymore Orochimaru took it back from it, like how madara stole hashi sm
-All of Kabuto attacks were a result of jutsu on steroids and movement

He still retained his look not going back to normal meaning the DNA of orochimaru infused into him like everyone else. He was in sage mode when healing sasuke after he got out of izanami. Jugo allowed sage mode not orochimaru.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

He doesn't have to liquify all the way and than he can use the earth below to start destroying the surround trees. Plus he is so fast he would be on hashis ass with white dragon before hashi even knows what's happening. Lets be honest, Hashi can't hurt him and he is one of the fastslest non sage enhanced characters. He reacted too every attack sasuke and itachi threw and never got hit once except for his little horn piece that went into izanami.

You wank the weirdest characters.

First of all. Lemme just ask you. What are Kabuto's feats without Oro chakra? You seem to think Kabuto can control everything within a ten mile radius. Have you seen the size of the forest? You also seem to think Hashi isn't capable of retreating.

I looked it up. You can't escape the forest jutsu until all of it is destroyed or you stay elevated out if the area. Hashi can definitely get out of there. Prop himself on the buddha or something, I don't think Kabuto can. Plus he isn't at the level he was vs the Uchiha bros and the environment is definitely against him, whether he likes it or not. Apparently he mightn't even have SM anymore due to his fodder chakra reserves.

Forest is just one way I thought of. Tayuya is the tricky bit imo but Hashi could just make wooden headphones or something lel

 

[Logical Sasori]

He makes inorganic creation grow not just move, it was like cartoony. He can just pick up two slabs of earth and than turn that into a huge block that charges said opponent, etc. Its overpowered and extremely fast hitting itachi before he could even react to save his self and sasuke would be dead atm if it wasn't for itachi and he didnt react at all.

 

[Logical Sasori]

You wank the weirdest characters.

First of all. Lemme just ask you. What are Kabuto's feats without Oro chakra? You seem to think Kabuto can control everything within a ten mile radius. Have you seen the size of the forest? You also seem to think Hashi isn't capable of retreating.

I looked it up. You can't escape the forest jutsu until all of it is destroyed or you stay elevated out if the area. Hashi can definitely get out of there. Prop himself on the buddha or something. Kabuto isn't at the level he was vs the Uchiha bros and the environment is definitely against him, whether he likes it or not.

Forest is just one way I thought of.

What's he got that stops kabutos white lightning if he can't even use jutsu. Or sound genjutsu than kabuto quickly speed blitzes.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

What's he got that stops kabutos white lightning if he can't even use jutsu. Or sound genjutsu than kabuto quickly speed blitzes.

You know what. I'm done XD just done. I can tell there'll be no getting through you no matter what I say. If I was arsed. I would talk about them not being in a cave and Kabuto not having beyond RSM speed.

Have a nice day.

 

[KidGamer65]

Kabuto is broken, having the sound genjutsu some pretty much means he can out right one shot virtually anybody without prep, ppl love saying he's not on sm hash's lvl but all he lacks is raw power, he can still in theory take out most of nv since he can pretty much rob you of sight and hearing and has good enough reflexes to dodge a susanoo arrow. And he even has the bone kkg. He's definitely a threat when even compared to ootsutsuki characters

Lord, stop wanking this guy. Kabuto being a threat to the Ootsutsuki shown in this Manga (Toneri, Kaguya, Hagoromo, Hamura, Momoshiki, Kinshiki) is easily the dumbest thing I've heard today.

OT: Kabuto can't even take out Edo Itachi and EMS Sasuke going all out let alone EMS Madara or Hashirama. He is on Nagato's tier, but below Nagato in power. Anyone above that level babyshakes him.

 

[Logical Sasori]

Lord, stop wanking this guy. Kabuto being a threat to the Ootsutsuki shown in this Manga (Toneri, Kaguya, Hagoromo, Hamura, Momoshiki, Kinshiki) is easily the dumbest thing I've heard today.

OT: Kabuto can't even take out Edo Itachi and EMS Sasuke going all out let alone EMS Madara or Hashirama. He is on Nagato's tier, but below Nagato in power. Anyone above that level babyshakes him.

So in a rematch where izanami wouldn't work kabuto can't beat them? Lol, and EMS sasuke is on nagatos tier so that puts kabuto easily >

 

[KidGamer65]

So in a rematch where izanami wouldn't work kabuto can't beat them? Lol, and EMS sasuke is on nagatos tier so that puts kabuto easily >

In a rematch where Izanami doesn't work, Edo Itachi and EMS Sasuke would go full power and annihilate him. If Sasuke uses Legged Susanoo and above he'd solo.

And no. EMS Sasuke w/ PS is a tier above Nagato and Kabuto. He obliterates Kabuto. Even Edo Itachi has a strong chance at soloing Kabuto if he goes all out and you're talking about him being SM Hashirama level. :lol

 

[Logical Sasori]

In a rematch where Izanami doesn't work, Edo Itachi and EMS Sasuke would go full power and annihilate him. If Sasuke uses Legged Susanoo and above he'd solo.

And no. EMS Sasuke w/ PS is a tier above Nagato and Kabuto. He obliterates Kabuto. Even Edo Itachi has a strong chance at soloing Kabuto if he goes all out and you're talking about him being SM Hashirama level. :lol

Umm, neither would be able to hit Nagato still, while white dragon has already proved to negate Susanno. Unless you can provide a manga scan to prove otherwise. Neither itachi or sasuke could even use rib cage. Itachi barely got his hand out just like when both were about to be negged diff by inorganic creation as neither was fast enough to activate Susanno to counter it.

 

[Logical Sasori]

I guess kabuto will for ever be the most underrated character. Btw healthy nagato stomps EMS madara in every which way.

 

[KidGamer65]

Umm, neither would be able to hit Nagato still, while white dragon has already proved to negate Susanno. Unless you can provide a manga scan to prove otherwise. Neither itachi or sasuke could even use rib cage. Itachi barely got his hand out just like when both were about to be negged diff by inorganic creation as neither was fast enough to activate Susanno to counter it.

1. Sasuke tracks and lands hits on people as fast as Juubito. Unless Kabuto is faster and more reflexive than the Juubi's Jinchuuriki, there is nothing to discuss here.

2. They tagged Kabuto in canon, during their fight. So please stop ignoring the Manga.

3. They already countered White Rage in canon. Stop ignoring canon.

4. They already countered Muki Tensei w/o knowledge on how it worked. Stop ignoring canon.

I suggest you stop overrating Kabuto and go give that fight another read, because every ability he used was countered w/o them using their full power.

I guess kabuto will for ever be the most underrated character. Btw healthy nagato stomps EMS madara in every which way.

If you are an illiterate clown who can't read the Manga, then yes, Nagato stomps Madara. If you are an unbiased, or relatively unbiased person and can properly read the Manga, you will know that PS and/or Kurama one shots Nagato.

 

[Lariatoo]

Currently he is probably top 3 or 4 against Naruto and Sasuke (obviously) and debatable in Killer Bee's behalf.

 

[lilenesaron]

OP seems to forget sasuke and itachi didn't want him dead. he it was a dead match, it would've been over b4 it even began. seriously if you take edo tensei out of his arsenal I don't think kabuto himself is strong enough to beat anyone stronger than itachi. this including itachi himself

 

[HiddenSound]

He's good 1V1'ing a fodder in a cave. Any of the good jutsu he'd have trouble with like kamui, ftg etc especially if he's not in the right environment. Inorganic animation looked like it had a limit. No swallowing the buddah with a field imo. Hashi's wood is his own with his chakra. Hashi could just use the flower jutsu on Kabuto, right?

It's possible he could sense and avoid Kamui through straight dodging it, or through partial liquefication. But SS? lol
OT: Yes, he's still immensely powerful. Even if he were downgraded to his own base power, he's still immensely powerful comparatively speaking. But his current self is nowhere near SM Hashirama. He'd need his full power, including Edo Tensei, for it to be a fight against SM Hashirama.

OP seems to forget sasuke and itachi didn't want him dead. he it was a dead match, it would've been over b4 it even began. seriously if you take edo tensei out of his arsenal I don't think kabuto himself is strong enough to beat anyone stronger than itachi. this including itachi himself

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People always forget the part about Kabuto holding back as well. SM Kabuto alone is, at least, on Itachi's level.

 

[lilenesaron]

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People always forget the part about Kabuto holding back as well. SM Kabuto alone is, at least, on Itachi's level.

but looking at it I don't really think there's much else in his arsenal he could've used in that fight

 

[Dantee]

I'd put KAbuto around Bees level.

 

[Kirin The Dragon Sage]

Kabuto is the one interested with zetsu. And he have shins now. At least we know who kaguya affraid before. A missing child who lost his origin

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

It's possible he could sense and avoid Kamui through straight dodging it, or through partial liquefication.

I stopped giving a shit but I doubt thr sensimg bit. Watched Naruto & alliance juubi. Someone shouted. "Naruto! Above you!" As Obito kamui's and Naruto is the best sensor. You guys over hype liquification a lot. He could easily be evaporated or if pollen went into the liquid, it'd still be in him when he re forms. Tsyuya is still the biggest threat imo.

 

[Logical Sasori]

1. Sasuke tracks and lands hits on people as fast as Juubito. Unless Kabuto is faster and more reflexive than the Juubi's Jinchuuriki, there is nothing to discuss here.

2. They tagged Kabuto in canon, during their fight. So please stop ignoring the Manga.

3. They already countered White Rage in canon. Stop ignoring canon.

4. They already countered Muki Tensei w/o knowledge on how it worked. Stop ignoring canon.

I suggest you stop overrating Kabuto and go give that fight another read, because every ability he used was countered w/o them using their full power.



If you are an illiterate clown who can't read the Manga, then yes, Nagato stomps Madara. If you are an unbiased, or relatively unbiased person and can properly read the Manga, you will know that PS and/or Kurama one shots Nagato.

You're using low class argumentation, they counter white dragon? Are you insane? You can't beat me in this debate, ill destroy you, I've analyzed your perfectly and I'm now on my computer, shall we continue?

 

[Xlad]

I'm expecting some wank from Brotha Humpsaid.