Current Kabuto is immensely powerful, still.

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Orochimaru took back his own chakra yes, but from his appearance you can see he retained all of his Orochimaru characteristics. This meaning he must have his skills too, which isn't too impressive considering the fact kabuto was still in Sage mode healing Sasuke. So now that Kabuto is good, do you think he'd be stronger in a way than when he was bad? Or weaker? Don't include Edo on either side because good Kabuto would most likely not use that.

Lets look at some of his feats:

Speed feats: Easily dodged Sasukes arrow neg diff. Unless you have Sage Chakra you're going to have a very hard time hitting him. He easily chopped Itachi in half before he had time to react, and Itachi kept up with KCM Naruto.

Ninjutsu feats: Can change and manipulate any inorganic thing that he is touching (just standing on.) Being able to shape the land at will so unpredictability and speed, Sasuke didn't react to it having to be saved by his brother, although in a field it wouldn't be completely all around by sasuke would've died if not for itachi, who couldn't react fast enough to even help him self. Kabuto is able to bisect enemies in half with one swipe. Can turn to water, use super human bones, shed himself if in real danger, along with webs that can't be destroyed except by jutsu (catching people by surprise slowing them down.) His raging dragon stops the movement of anyone besides the Hozuki, and the sight and hearing would be stopped of everybody else besides maybe orochimaru.

Genjutsu feats: Sound Genjutsu is an almost always hit. It was powerful enough to trap Itachi and Sasuke to where they needed the help of each other to get out.

There's obviously more but ya .

So who do you think the strongest person is current Kabuto could beat? (don't include people with sage chakra or the sages family.)

I would say right at Hashirama or Madaras level, EMS Madara would only be a threat due to PS, but with the combined efforts of sound genjutsu with inorganic creating and raging dragon he could nullify it and speed blitz.

SM hashiramas threat is SS, everything is stopped with raging dragon, inorganic creating. His snakes, would also be a very big help which people don't realize can liquify. I wonder if Kabuto could use inorganic creation to swollow and surround SS, like in an open field along with jirobos walls. Kimimmaros bones.

What do you guys think? Could he take on SS?
 
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He's good 1V1'ing a fodder in a cave. Any of the good jutsu he'd have trouble with like kamui, ftg etc especially if he's not in the right environment. Inorganic animation looked like it had a limit. No swallowing the buddah with a field imo. Hashi's wood is his own with his chakra. Hashi could just use the flower jutsu on Kabuto, right?
 
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He isnt at SM hashi lvl by far.
 

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If he can use edo tensei he's in top ten easily. He's still stupid powerful without it. It was stated he was on kakashis level in part one before he showed techniques.
 

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i can't believe this guy is actually putting SM Kabuto on Hashirama's lvl and beyond EMS Madara's :lmao:
 
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A lot of his feats go out of the window because his own chakra whilst a nasty mess, isn't potent like Oro's.

Lacking his potent chakra, his physical abilities and ninjutsu weaken. I doubt without his power that he can use SM since his own chakra levels and chakra potency are pretty crap.
 

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Kabuto is broken, having the sound genjutsu some pretty much means he can out right one shot virtually anybody without prep, ppl love saying he's not on sm hash's lvl but all he lacks is raw power, he can still in theory take out most of nv since he can pretty much rob you of sight and hearing and has good enough reflexes to dodge a susanoo arrow. And he even has the bone kkg. He's definitely a threat when even compared to ootsutsuki characters
 

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I believe he was only displayed as strong because he was in an enclosed area while he fought, so there was really no room to really dodge many of his attacks that had a large AoE... In an open field, with his given feats, he would get wrecked
 

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thank god nobody made a thread about kabuto being stronger than orochimaru...i think :wut:
 

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Take away that edo tensei bullshit and kabuto becomes beatable easily by a high jounin level ninja
 

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I believe he was only displayed as strong because he was in an enclosed area while he fought, so there was really no room to really dodge many of his attacks that had a large AoE... In an open field, with his given feats, he would get wrecked

I gotta agree with this
 
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Still can't deny speed feats, and in an open field his inorganic creation would just be massivley larger, as in he can destroy almost anything being able to do whatever he wants where you stand or go.
 
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And his white rage would still work in a distance but it doesn't matter because you can't move if you're not a HOZUKI and kabutovcan liquidy his body.
 
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He's good 1V1'ing a fodder in a cave. Any of the good jutsu he'd have trouble with like kamui, ftg etc especially if he's not in the right environment. Inorganic animation looked like it had a limit. No swallowing the buddah with a field imo. Hashi's wood is his own with his chakra. Hashi could just use the flower jutsu on Kabuto, right?

Yeah but kabuto can turn into water not having to breathe and such and use kimimaros bone field and such. Jirobos jutsu plus inorganic to destroy the forest too. + more tbh
 

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-Kabuto stole all those powers
-Kabuto stole all of those powers and SM from Orochimaru
-Kabuto doesn't have DSM anymore Orochimaru took it back from it, like how madara stole hashi sm
-All of Kabuto attacks were a result of jutsu on steroids and movement
 
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Yeah but kabuto can turn into water not having to breathe and such and use kimimaros bone field and such. Jirobos jutsu plus inorganic to destroy the forest too. + more tbh

Madara's forest was frickin massive and only a 360 jinton could clear all of it. I presume Hashi's is even bigger, quicker etc. Branches restrain the target. Kabuto liquifies but then what? You can't escape the pollen forever because Hashi consciously controls it .
 
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Madara's forest was frickin massive and only a 360 jinton could clear all of it. I presume Hashi's is even bigger, quicker etc. Branches restrain the target. Kabuto liquifies but then what? You can't escape the pollen forever because Hashi consciously controls it .

He doesn't have to liquify all the way and than he can use the earth below to start destroying the surround trees. Plus he is so fast he would be on hashis ass with white dragon before hashi even knows what's happening. Lets be honest, Hashi can't hurt him and he is one of the fastslest non sage enhanced characters. He reacted too every attack sasuke and itachi threw and never got hit once except for his little horn piece that went into izanami.
 

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He doesn't have to liquify all the way and than he can use the earth below to start destroying the surround trees. Plus he is so fast he would be on hashis ass with white dragon before hashi even knows what's happening. Lets be honest, Hashi can't hurt him and he is one of the fastslest non sage enhanced characters. He reacted too every attack sasuke and itachi threw and never got hit once except for his little horn piece that went into izanami.


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