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Well : Naruto and Jiraiya's relationship was a Grandson/Grandpa's.

Tsunade and Sakura's is shown to be strictly teacher.

Orochimaru and Sasuke have more connection. Also, no notice how Orochimaru is actually caring how Sasuke is feeling. He is looking after Sasuke.. he is following Sasuke. Sasuke doesn't talk to Orochimaru with respect..just like how Orochimaru used to treat him like a experiment. BUT OROCHIMARU IS CHANGING... And I really I hope he does. Because personally the evil orochimaru was pretty creepy and boring.

Plus, he seems pretty proud that Sasuke is advancing.

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Not really. He literally referred to Sasuke as his "experiment". No connection whatsoever. And, creepy, evil Orochimaru was absolutely amazing and easily one of the best characters in the entire show.
 

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In my personal opinion he added some spice, everyone else are victims, to me it seemed he was evil for the hell of it, which reminded me alot of the joker. Which is why I like him.
I'm not a fan of the joker.. never could be. Sure he is a raw villain.. but I can never see myself being a fan of a villain. But Orochimaru when he first attacked.. showed remorse and understanding and planning carefully.. stuff that Joker doesn't do.



Not really. He literally referred to Sasuke as his "experiment". No connection whatsoever. And, creepy, evil Orochimaru was absolutely amazing and easily one of the best characters in the entire show.
He didn't referred to Sasuke as Sasuke.. o-o. All characters are the same personally, they are created for a specific role. Orochimaru was already hinted he would change..
 

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I'm not a fan of the joker.. never could be. Sure he is a raw villain.. but I can never see myself being a fan of a villain. But Orochimaru when he first attacked.. showed remorse and understanding and planning carefully.. stuff that Joker doesn't do.


He didn't referred to Sasuke as Sasuke.. o-o. All characters are the same personally, they are created for a specific role. Orochimaru was already hinted he would change..

"Unlike any other of my experiments"
 

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I don't know.

Obito is missing a sharingan, so he can't unlock its full potential, and I would assume that same concept would apply to the rinnegan as well, which would explain why he never used preta or deva path.

I think Orochimaru still wants Sasuke because he has both sharingan, an EMS(something Obito never had) and doesn't have half his body replaced with a Zetsu.


Also, I'm hoping that Obito might get angry from Naruto's TNJ and wins the tug of war, to which then Madara would utilize his trump-card.
 

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In no way has Kishimoto shown Orochimaru's redemption. He's too far gone, he's always had a snake-like nature to him. Snakes are deceiving.

There has been no redemption yet, and nothing signals something such as that. The second Orochimaru was revived, his first thought was taking Sasuke's body. Doesn't seem very "semi-passive observer" at all. But it's still up in the air for now. Orochimaru has way too much potential as a villain to just be redeemed.

It's quite obvious that Orochimaru had a change of heart:

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That comment of his about taking over Sasuke's body was before he realized Sasuke has changed:

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After Sasuke told his intentions Orochimaru genuinely thought of this:

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So Orochimaru spoke the truth here:

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Even before attacking Konoha back in part 1:

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Even shedding a tear for Hiruzen:

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Much like Obito, his traumatic childhood experiences turned him evil, but like Obito, his road to redemption has already been set

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I agree, with both. The second one seems very Orochimaru-like. Why wouldn't he steal the strongest body capable of being used to finish his experiments and to learn every jutsu?
 

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I agree, with both. The second one seems very Orochimaru-like. Why wouldn't he steal the strongest body capable of being used to finish his experiments and to learn every jutsu?
Exactly.
Yes, then he truly becomes the ultimate being he aspires to be. I think Naruto should fight him if that ever happens.
Completely agreed.
 

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1, There's a high chance of that happening, So yes.

2, Oro most likely will be the series final villain right after the alliance defeats madara. once again, It's plausible.
I'm glad there is so many people agreeing. We'll know by next chapter if number 1 is confirmed or denied. Thank you for your input.
 
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In regards to the whole chakra thing. I'm not too sure. Bijuus have to be sealed into a person. Which is the entire purpose of alot of the show if you think about it. I mean akatsuki had an entire ritual set up to extract the bijuus and break the seals.

I don't see how Naruto could take in all of the chakra from all of the Bijuu. One because if he takes the entirety of the chakra, will 7 of the beasts exist inside his conscious? and two because even if he were to absorb the chakra and the beast don't exist in his conscious will they just simply cease to exist?
 
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