Ctfu at hyuga fans do you not know what hyperbole is¿

[Glad Of War]

Its not when she was trained by Neji lol. And it clearly says movement not technique.



Stop reaching lol. 8 trigrams is already a well known to readers so its stupid to assume that the author would label an already known technique as a secret technique.



.....keep backtracking.
Anyway mind showing the post where you said that before your "They are the same" argument I posted in my last comment.

@Bold Why would I be against something that I am trying to push myself. Dude you seriously have reading and comprehension problems. I've said a repeatedly that they maybe be similar but not the same. Himawari used a different attack than Neji's but they share a similarity in the fact that they both attack the tenketsu.

"Its not when she was trained by Neji lol."

No one suggested that. The fact she had to recall Neji's movement before she used her jutsu implies she was trying to induce Neji's technique.

"so its stupid to assume that the author would label an already known technique as a secret technique."

Lmao. I guess Choji used a secret jutsu because it was labelled, "Akimichi clan secret jutsu."

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"Anyway mind showing the post where you said that before your"

I'm not sure what you're asking for.
I already stated my argument initially was Neji's technique and Himawari's technique was the same. Later I changed my stance, but did not capitulate as a result. You made it seem your notion was that Himawari's technique wasn't gentle-fist seeing as you were against my point which emphasized they were the same. Matter of fact, those Hyuuga faps who came here advocating you were also against the fact they were the same, and you supported them.

Needles to say, you clearly failed to understand my stance because you lacked reading comprehension which is ironic, and more, you are slow-witted,

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

No one suggested that. The fact she had to recall Neji's movement before she used her jutsu implies she was trying to induce Neji's technique.

Which technique? Neji had many and I am sure Neji taught Hinata many...

Your entire arguments have been based on assumptions without any solid evidence at all.

Lmao. I guess Choji used a secret jutsu because it was labelled, "Akimichi clan secret jutsu."

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Stop showing things out of context. The Hinata scan you showed is completely different case than the Choji one. In Hinata's case the 8 trigrams have already been used a number of times so its stupid to think the author addressed it in such a mysterious manner and called it a secret technique cuz that had been done already when the 8 trigrams was introduced first. In Choji's case he had achieved something great from akimichi clan standards and the technique was introduced for the first time and thus all the hype.
The attack which Hinata used and was hyped as a secret technique was just the same as Choji's. It was a technique we were reading/seeing for the first time and thus the hype.

I'm not sure what you're asking for.
I already stated my argument initially was Neji's technique and Himawari's technique was the same.

At best they're similar and definitely not same.

Later I changed my stance, but did not capitulate as a result. You made it seem your notion was that Himawari's technique wasn't gentle-fist seeing as you were against my point which emphasized they were the same. Matter of fact, those Hyuuga faps who came here advocating you were also against the fact they were the same, and you supported them.

@Bold Again where did Ieven say that? Show me a scan or hold the L bro.

Needles to say, you clearly failed to understand my stance because you lacked reading comprehension which is ironic, and more, you are slow-witted,

Lol you never had a stance. I kept destroying your arguments and you just kept backtracking and that continues even now. First it was just comic relief...then Himawari and Neji's attacks were the same...and then they're similar...now being delusional that I said Himawari's attack wasn't GF....

Make up your mind dude. You clearly don't know yourself what you're arguing about.

 

[Glad Of War]

Which technique? Neji had many and I am sure Neji taught Hinata many...

Your entire arguments have been based on assumptions without any solid evidence at all.



Stop showing things out of context. The Hinata scan you showed is completely different case than the Choji one. In Hinata's case the 8 trigrams have already been used a number of times so its stupid to think the author addressed it in such a mysterious manner and called it a secret technique cuz that had been done already when the 8 trigrams was introduced first. In Choji's case he had achieved something great from akimichi clan standards and the technique was introduced for the first time and thus all the hype.
The attack which Hinata used and was hyped as a secret technique was just the same as Choji's. It was a technique we were reading/seeing for the first time and thus the hype.



At best they're similar and definitely not same.



@Bold Again where did Ieven say that? Show me a scan or hold the L bro.



Lol you never had a stance. I kept destroying your arguments and you just kept backtracking and that continues even now. First it was just comic relief...then Himawari and Neji's attacks were the same...and then they're similar...now being delusional that I said Himawari's attack wasn't GF....

Make up your mind dude. You clearly don't know yourself what you're arguing about.

I think we are done here lmao
>Destroyed my arguments.
>Doesn't know key points such as; Choji had used his butterfly mode during the war, which made his a "secret jutsu" completely prominent.
>This sums up your debating skills in its entirety, and frankly, this has been a waste of my time.

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[Glad Of War]

In before, "Muhh Choji secret jutsu was different."

This was the anime depiction of the mode, which looks completely identical with the mode he used during the war.

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[solo king]

I think we're done here mods please close this

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

I think we are done here lmao
>Destroyed my arguments.
>Doesn't know key points such as; Choji had used his butterfly mode during the war, which made his a "secret jutsu" completely prominent.
>This sums up your debating skills in its entirety, and frankly, this has been a waste of my time.

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In before, "Muhh Choji secret jutsu was different."

This was the anime depiction of the mode, which looks completely identical with the mode he used during the war.

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Debates based on assumptions, brings in out of context scans, fails to provide any proof for his claims, gets destroyed and then backtracks on his claims :lol

Goes on and questions other's debating skills....

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And still waiting for the post where I said Himawari's attack wasn't a GF technique....

 

[Made in Heaven]

Why is Glad of War bringing up non canon novels but denying things drawn and written by kishimoto himself?

 

[Glad Of War]

Debates based on assumptions, brings in out of context scans, fails to provide any proof for his claims, gets destroyed and then backtracks on his claims :lol

Goes on and questions other's debating skills....

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And still waiting for the post where I said Himawari's attack wasn't a GF technique....

Is that best you can come up with? A half-arsed denial? Well to be fair I expected damage control, but this was always to be expected since you were proven to be ignorant.

"gets destroyed and then backtracks on his claims"

You know, you have stated several times I backtracked, but I don't think you know what it means to backtrack during a debate.

Backtrack verb
to completely change what you think or say about something.

For example; If you backtrack on a statement or decision you have made, you do or say something that shows that you no longer agree with it or support it.

What this implies in this case is this, if I had backtracked, I would stop thinking or supporting the idea; Himawari knocking down Naruto was comic relief, or her jutsu was the same with Neji's.

Yet, I have emphasize loads of times that I still stand with the fact Himawari knocking down Naruto was comic relief, and that her jutsu was the same as Neji's.

So I never backtracked. Apparently, you are that stupid, you don't even know the implications of the words you use.

Anyway, let's get to a more relevant note. You based the factuality of your argument on the notion; Naruto getting unconscious for a whole day. I just proved Hinata used eight trigrams on a victim which resulted to him not being able to move for a whole day. I don't expect you be against this since you were proven wrong after assertively claiming she used a different jutsu because it was called a secret technique. But then again, you have a knack at whoring arguments. Presuming that becomes predominant again, the scan I posted stated Hinata used the technique over and over again, which is an attribute of eight trigrams. Unless you want to say, Hinata used a different technique, different from Neji and Himawari, which would prompt me to conclude you are remedial towards back-peddling.

If not, there goes your only argument you had.

As a result, let's recap;
You claimed Himawari's technique was different from Neji, when she;
Utilised her Byakugan.
Used a gentle-fist technique.
Used her palm to strike her victim.
Which closed his tenketsu.
Victim couldn't move for an entire day.
All of these which are attributes of Eight Trigrams technique.

Now considering that;
Hinata also utilised her Byakugan.
Used a gentle-fist technique.
Used her palm to strike her victim chakra points/pressure points/tenketsu repeatedly.
Which closed them.
Victim couldn't move for an entire day.
Thus proving Eight Trigrams technique could render a victim unresponsive.

Alternatively, during Neji's battle with Kidomaru;
Neji utilised his Byakugan.
Use a gentle-fist technique.
Used his palm/fingers.
Struck the victim.
Kills the victim supposedly because Eight Trigrams jutsu not only closes the chakra points, but destroys the organs.
It's a logically assume deduction Neji used Eight Trigrams or a variation of it considering that was his only offensive moves when he was a kid. In fact, that his is only offensive move.
Thus, this proves Eight Trigrams technique causes a lot more than rendering someone unconscious. When something goes beyond what we thought, we assume it is capable of meeting the task of our thoughts, which in this case proves Eight Trigrams is capable of making a victim unconscious.

The end part of that covers all the attributes displayed Himawari, and the effects displayed by Naruto, proving Himawari used a technique Naruto tanked before, proving Naruto should have tanked it, thus arriving at the conclusion; it was comic relief scene, since the use of it generally projects a contradictory view. Have a good day knowing fully well I just utterly destroyed you.

I expect a response, so please note; Eight Trigrams technique in this post refers to the application of closing the chakra points.

 

[Glad Of War]

Why is Glad of War bringing up non canon novels but denying things drawn and written by kishimoto himself?

Your buddy tried to use it as well to prove his point, only for it to ironically prove mine lmao

 

[Jinrou]

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Is that best you can come up with? A half-arsed denial? Well to be fair I expected damage control, but this was always to be expected since you were proven to be ignorant.

"gets destroyed and then backtracks on his claims"

You know, you have stated several times I backtracked, but I don't think you know what it means to backtrack during a debate.

Backtrack verb
to completely change what you think or say about something.

For example; If you backtrack on a statement or decision you have made, you do or say something that shows that you no longer agree with it or support it.

What this implies in this case is this, if I had backtracked, I would stop thinking or supporting the idea; Himawari knocking down Naruto was comic relief, or her jutsu was the same with Neji's.

Yet, I have emphasize loads of times that I still stand with the fact Himawari knocking down Naruto was comic relief, and that her jutsu was the same as Neji's.

So I never backtracked. Apparently, you are that stupid, you don't even know the implications of the words you use.

Anyway, let's get to a more relevant note. You based the factuality of your argument on the notion; Naruto getting unconscious for a whole day. I just proved Hinata used eight trigrams on a victim which resulted to him not being able to move for a whole day. I don't expect you be against this since you were proven wrong after assertively claiming she used a different jutsu because it was called a secret technique. But then again, you have a knack at whoring arguments. Presuming that becomes predominant again, the scan I posted stated Hinata used the technique over and over again, which is an attribute of eight trigrams. Unless you want to say, Hinata used a different technique, different from Neji and Himawari, which would prompt me to conclude you are remedial towards back-peddling.

If not, there goes your only argument you had.

As a result, let's recap;
You claimed Himawari's technique was different from Neji, when she;
Utilised her Byakugan.
Used a gentle-fist technique.
Used her palm to strike her victim.
Which closed his tenketsu.
Victim couldn't move for an entire day.
All of these which are attributes of Eight Trigrams technique.

Now considering that;
Hinata also utilised her Byakugan.
Used a gentle-fist technique.
Used her palm to strike her victim chakra points/pressure points/tenketsu repeatedly.
Which closed them.
Victim couldn't move for an entire day.
Thus proving Eight Trigrams technique could render a victim unresponsive.

Alternatively, during Neji's battle with Kidomaru;
Neji utilised his Byakugan.
Use a gentle-fist technique.
Used his palm/fingers.
Struck the victim.
Kills the victim supposedly because Eight Trigrams jutsu not only closes the chakra points, but destroys the organs.
It's a logically assume deduction Neji used Eight Trigrams or a variation of it considering that was his only offensive moves when he was a kid. In fact, that his is only offensive move.
Thus, this proves Eight Trigrams technique causes a lot more than rendering someone unconscious. When something goes beyond what we thought, we assume it is capable of meeting the task of our thoughts, which in this case proves Eight Trigrams is capable of making a victim unconscious.

The end part of that covers all the attributes displayed Himawari, and the effects displayed by Naruto, proving Himawari used a technique Naruto tanked before, proving Naruto should have tanked it, thus arriving at the conclusion; it was comic relief scene, since the use of it generally projects a contradictory view. Have a good day knowing fully well I just utterly destroyed you.

- Hinata used eight trigrams on a victim
- which is an attribute of eight trigrams.
- All of these which are attributes of Eight Trigrams technique.
- Thus proving Eight Trigrams technique could render a victim unresponsive.
- because Eight Trigrams jutsu not only closes the chakra points, but destroys the organs.
- Neji used Eight Trigrams or a variation of it
- Thus, this proves Eight Trigrams technique causes a lot more than rendering someone unconscious.
- Eight Trigrams is capable of making a victim unconscious.

Everything listed here was done by Gentle fist bro. Eight trigrams is literally just a name its not a technique.

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Eight Trigrams Palms Revolving Heaven (Hakkeshou Kaiten)
Kekkei Genkai, Taijutsu, Defensive, Close-range

User: Hyuuga Neji

An application of Gentle Fist, the other Absolute Defense!!

A taijutsu where one releases a large amount of chakra from their body’s chakra openings to catch the blows from an enemy’s attacks, while making one’s body spin to repel them.

A secret transmitted by oral tradition within the Hyuuga’s Main House, though Hyuuga Neji came up with it on his own, despite him being from the Branch House. It stands in the same league as Gaara’s Sand as an ultimate protection, and was even called the other Absolute Defense. This is the high grade taijutsu that made Neji’s prodigious talent known during the Chuunin exam.

The Byakugan’s nigh-360° field of vision perceives the rear attack, and Kaiten intercepts it.

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Eight Trigrams Sealing Style (Hakke no Fuuin Shiki)
Fuuinjutsu, Supplementary, Close-range

User: Fourth Hokage

The double seal that sealed the Kyuubi’s immense chakra~~~

When the Fourth Hokage sealed the Demon Fox inside of Naruto, the effect was made stronger by putting together two Four Symbols Seals. At that time, he also left an opening at the space where the sealing formulas meet, allowing the Demon Fox’s chakra to merge with Naruto’s chakra. This sealing-style, because it consists of two Four Symbols Seals, is called an Eight Trigrams Sealing-style.

The tremendous Demon Fox’s chakra is inside the small body of Naruto!!

We aren't going to say the fact these two techniques have Eight trigrams in their name means they do all the things listed above.

 

[Glad Of War]

Everything listed here was done by Gentle fist bro. Eight trigrams is literally just a name its not a technique.

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Eight Trigrams Palms Revolving Heaven (Hakkeshou Kaiten)
Kekkei Genkai, Taijutsu, Defensive, Close-range

User: Hyuuga Neji

An application of Gentle Fist, the other Absolute Defense!!

A taijutsu where one releases a large amount of chakra from their body’s chakra openings to catch the blows from an enemy’s attacks, while making one’s body spin to repel them.

A secret transmitted by oral tradition within the Hyuuga’s Main House, though Hyuuga Neji came up with it on his own, despite him being from the Branch House. It stands in the same league as Gaara’s Sand as an ultimate protection, and was even called the other Absolute Defense. This is the high grade taijutsu that made Neji’s prodigious talent known during the Chuunin exam.

The Byakugan’s nigh-360° field of vision perceives the rear attack, and Kaiten intercepts it.

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Eight Trigrams Sealing Style (Hakke no Fuuin Shiki)
Fuuinjutsu, Supplementary, Close-range

User: Fourth Hokage

The double seal that sealed the Kyuubi’s immense chakra~~~

When the Fourth Hokage sealed the Demon Fox inside of Naruto, the effect was made stronger by putting together two Four Symbols Seals. At that time, he also left an opening at the space where the sealing formulas meet, allowing the Demon Fox’s chakra to merge with Naruto’s chakra. This sealing-style, because it consists of two Four Symbols Seals, is called an Eight Trigrams Sealing-style.

The tremendous Demon Fox’s chakra is inside the small body of Naruto!!

We aren't going to say the fact these two techniques have Eight trigrams in their name means they do all the things listed above.

I'm referring to the application of it closing the victim's chakra point.

 

[Jinrou]

I'm referring to the application of it closing the victim's chakra point.

Closing chakra points isn't 'Eight trigrams' related though. Its simply using Gentle fist to close the points. Why are you referring to it as Eight trigrams?

 

[Glad Of War]

Closing chakra points isn't 'Eight trigrams' related though. Its simply using Gentle fist to close the points. Why are you referring to it as Eight trigrams?

Like Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms doesn't?

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Is that best you can come up with? A half-arsed denial? Well to be fair I expected damage control, but this was always to be expected since you were proven to be ignorant.

"gets destroyed and then backtracks on his claims"

You know, you have stated several times I backtracked, but I don't think you know what it means to backtrack during a debate.

Backtrack verb
to completely change what you think or say about something.

For example; If you backtrack on a statement or decision you have made, you do or say something that shows that you no longer agree with it or support it.

What this implies in this case is this, if I had backtracked, I would stop thinking or supporting the idea; Himawari knocking down Naruto was comic relief, or her jutsu was the same with Neji's.

Yet, I have emphasize loads of times that I still stand with the fact Himawari knocking down Naruto was comic relief, and that her jutsu was the same as Neji's.

So I never backtracked. Apparently, you are that stupid, you don't even know the implications of the words you use.

Anyway, let's get to a more relevant note. You based the factuality of your argument on the notion; Naruto getting unconscious for a whole day. I just proved Hinata used eight trigrams on a victim which resulted to him not being able to move for a whole day. I don't expect you be against this since you were proven wrong after assertively claiming she used a different jutsu because it was called a secret technique. But then again, you have a knack at whoring arguments. Presuming that becomes predominant again, the scan I posted stated Hinata used the technique over and over again, which is an attribute of eight trigrams. Unless you want to say, Hinata used a different technique, different from Neji and Himawari, which would prompt me to conclude you are remedial towards back-peddling.

If not, there goes your only argument you had.

As a result, let's recap;
You claimed Himawari's technique was different from Neji, when she;
Utilised her Byakugan.
Used a gentle-fist technique.
Used her palm to strike her victim.
Which closed his tenketsu.
Victim couldn't move for an entire day.
All of these which are attributes of Eight Trigrams technique.

Now considering that;
Hinata also utilised her Byakugan.
Used a gentle-fist technique.
Used her palm to strike her victim chakra points/pressure points/tenketsu repeatedly.
Which closed them.
Victim couldn't move for an entire day.
Thus proving Eight Trigrams technique could render a victim unresponsive.

Alternatively, during Neji's battle with Kidomaru;
Neji utilised his Byakugan.
Use a gentle-fist technique.
Used his palm/fingers.
Struck the victim.
Kills the victim supposedly because Eight Trigrams jutsu not only closes the chakra points, but destroys the organs.
It's a logically assume deduction Neji used Eight Trigrams or a variation of it considering that was his only offensive moves when he was a kid. In fact, that his is only offensive move.
Thus, this proves Eight Trigrams technique causes a lot more than rendering someone unconscious. When something goes beyond what we thought, we assume it is capable of meeting the task of our thoughts, which in this case proves Eight Trigrams is capable of making a victim unconscious.

The end part of that covers all the attributes displayed Himawari, and the effects displayed by Naruto, proving Himawari used a technique Naruto tanked before, proving Naruto should have tanked it, thus arriving at the conclusion; it was comic relief scene, since the use of it generally projects a contradictory view. Have a good day knowing fully well I just utterly destroyed you.

I expect a response, so please note; Eight Trigrams technique in this post refers to the application of closing the chakra points.

TLDR bro. You yourself don't know what you're talking about lol. Comeback when you have proof supporting your claims and not your stupid assumptions. If one is to accept your retarded logic then based on it every ninjutsu technique are the same cuz they all use chakra.....

 

[Jinrou]

Like Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms doesn't?

Eight trigrams is just a name though. It isn't particularly related to a standalone technique. Neji closed the chakra points in Hinata's hands only during their fight. He didn't use 64 palms there.

Basically, closing points =/= Eight Trigrams.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Eight trigrams is just a name though. It isn't particularly related to a standalone technique. Neji closed the chakra points in Hinata's hands only during their fight. He didn't use 64 palms there.

Basically, closing points =/= Eight Trigrams.

What’s the argument here? Your right about the eight triagram deal. The 8 triagram 32/64 palm deal is just like a combo, continuous gentle fist strikes. But it’s not a requirement to seal tenketsu. Any hyuga can seal a tenketsu with a one finger strike if they want to. I think the 32/64 palm moves are to try and close them all at once tbh

 

[Jinrou]

What’s the argument here? Your right about the eight triagram deal. The 8 triagram 32/64 palm deal is just like a combo, continuous gentle fist strikes. But it’s not a requirement to seal tenketsu. Any hyuga can seal a tenketsu with a one finger strike if they want to. I think the 32/64 palm moves are to try and close them all at once tbh

I'm not really sure myself but i think Glad thinks closing Tenketsu is called Eight Trigrams based on these:

- Hinata used eight trigrams on a victim
- which is an attribute of eight trigrams.
- All of these which are attributes of Eight Trigrams technique.
- Thus proving Eight Trigrams technique could render a victim unresponsive.
- because Eight Trigrams jutsu not only closes the chakra points, but destroys the organs.
- Neji used Eight Trigrams or a variation of it
- Thus, this proves Eight Trigrams technique causes a lot more than rendering someone unconscious.
- Eight Trigrams is capable of making a victim unconscious.

Just trying to make him figure out its incorrect. Agree with the rest of your post.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

I'm not really sure myself but i think Glad thinks closing Tenketsu is called Eight Trigrams based on these:



Just trying to make him figure out its incorrect. Agree with the rest of your post.

Well damn this shown in both of nejis chunnin exam fights. He closes some on both hinata and naruto without using the 8 triagrams iirc

 

[Glad Of War]

Eight trigrams is just a name though. It isn't particularly related to a standalone technique. Neji closed the chakra points in Hinata's hands only during their fight. He didn't use 64 palms there.

Basically, closing points =/= Eight Trigrams.

I already explained this.
Hyuuga members can close a victim's chakra point. However, the number of times it is used on a victim is where the term, "Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms" comes from.

For example, Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms is a technique where the victim's chakra points is struck 64 times.

Be that has it may, closing points = Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms.

 

[Jinrou]

I already explained this.
Hyuuga members can close a victim's chakra point. However, the number of times it is used on a victim is where the term, "Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms" comes from.

For example, Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms is a technique where the victim's chakra points is struck 64 times.

Be that has it may, closing points = Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms.

Bold would suggest Neji used 64 palms on Hinata during the chunin exams and Himawari used 64 palms on Naruto in the oneshot which would be incorrect.