[Discussion] Creationism vs Evolution

Where do you stand on this topic?

  • Creationism

    Votes: 12 38.7%
  • Evolution

    Votes: 19 61.3%
  • Agnostic on the topic

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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Jas

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I believe in Creationism. I can not believe that it's a circumstance that two small "moons" or "planets" crash into each other.. After that creating one planet together which is suited for us human beings. The gravity, the atmosphere and even the earth itself. I mean come on.. If we go millions of years back in time.. And if there was an animal that shouldn't have done what it had done.. Then everything today would have been totally different today. The life of one does change the future. However we can not know if it's true or not because we can not see the future. We can not watch our own life like a movie.
 

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I haven't read a lot about the bible. Only a few. The quran, however mentions about the sun orbiting which later was expanded by science.

"It is He Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. They swim along, each in an orbit. "
(The Qur'an, 21:33)''

Science would later expand on the idea that the sun is orbiting, and the planets around its gravitational system are traveling along with it. Again, mentioned in the quran:

"By the sky full of paths and orbits."
( (he Qur'an, 51:7)

As for Hinduism, the information in that religion is inaccurate. They worship cows as gods. They worship statues as gods. Islam doesn't, and that is why the moon splitting miracle was prophet Muhammad's doing, and not the man you speak of. Also, is there any accurate date of when he done that, cause scientists are trying to study the age of the moon's cracks, and if it's between 1000-2000 years, then it's Muhammad's doing because he existed between those eras.​


Quran was made about 1000-1500 years before. The revolution of planets around sun was explained by Aryabhatt in India around 350-300 BCE with mathematical proof, as found in historical texts. You know, the guy who gave '0' and 'Decimal' and 'Sin-Cos-Tan'? That's him alright. He even calculated that there are 365.375 days in a year and also calculated the value of Pi [3.1415].

Second, that second statement by no means explains what scientists of today have explained in theory and that too with mathematical proof.

As for your statement about hinduism, how can you say that that religion is inaccurate? Just because it doesn't match yours? Actually whosoever studies the history of religion, says that Hinduism is in itself a complete religion which can reveal how the existence of God and Religion followed throughout the human history. Because it took in different beliefs of Great People in itself, yet preserved the old belief of previous ones, if they do no harm to life of others. Thus the worshiping of Statues as they were done in ancient times when the belief of Monotheism didn't came to human mind.

They also believe that there is just one Supreme God, that is UNIVERSE in our modern language. In Mahabharat, when Lord Krishna show Arjuna that he is GOD, he shows him the entire Universe if you were to believe in the "MAHABHARAT" texts.

Second, they don't worship Cows as GODs, but as their MOTHER, because she provides milk to them all without any discrimination. See, you are wrong again. As for the Lord Ganesh Legend, well it dates back to even before the era of Krishna which by modern science's Astronomical Dating, was found to be around 3100-3000 BCE. SO you could say that according to legends, he did it before 3000 BCE meaning before 5000 years ago.

As for the fact, Islam contains the old age belief of Judaism and Christianity as far as my understanding goes.
 

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A little correction on Aryabhatta.

Aryabhata (476–550 CE) was the first in the line of great mathematician-astronomers from the classical age of Indian mathematics and Indian astronomy.

The mathematical part of the Aryabhatiya covers arithmetic, algebra, plane trigonometry, and spherical trigonometry. It also contains continued fractions, quadratic equations, sums-of-power series, and a table of sines.The Arya-siddhanta, a lost work on astronomical computations, is known through the writings of Aryabhata's contemporary, Varahamihira, and later mathematicians and commentators, including Brahmagupta and Bhaskara I. This work appears to be based on the older Surya Siddhanta and uses the midnight-day reckoning, as opposed to sunrise in Aryabhatiya. It also contained a description of several astronomical instruments: the gnomon (shanku-yantra), a shadow instrument (chhAyA-yantra), possibly angle-measuring devices, semicircular and circular (dhanur-yantra / chakra-yantra), a cylindrical stick yasti-yantra, an umbrella-shaped device called the chhatra-yantra, and water clocks of at least two types, bow-shaped and cylindrical.[8]

A third text, which may have survived in the Arabic translation, is Al ntf or Al-nanf. It claims that it is a translation by Aryabhata, but the Sanskrit name of this work is not known.

Probably dating from the 9th century, it is mentioned by the Persian scholar and chronicler of India, Abū Rayhān al-Bīrūnī

Read his entire history . The dude was a genius who influenced many geniuses of later time, including Islamic Golden Age's geniuses as they themselves mentioned it. ALso the French scientists and many more.
 
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