Could we agree that Madara was indeed the most competent God Level user ?

[Namar]

I've just seen the new villains from the oTsy clan, we've all seen Kaguya, Hashirama, the 2 transmigrants and that's about it.

Is there anyway we can come to a common ground and aprove the fact that Madara with both rinnegans at the end was indeed the most competent God level, Juubi, rinnegan, 3 eyes user ?

I'm not a Madara fan, but it seems too obvious that he was greater than everyone and that's why Kishi had to take him out through a backdoor stab.

 

[Gagster]

>Competent
>Stabbed in the back by own lackey.


Lol No.

 

[Madara the Solo King]

Yes even Kishi didn't know how to kill him so I agree that was the most comptent and best Juubi Jin user. He was just too great of a villain. He was truly a God level Shinobi.

 

[startup97]

of course madara is the greatest of all nobody in NV can ever surpass him, he have reached the highest rank and cannot be surpassed. Madara negs NV.

 

[Namar]

>Competent
>Stabbed in the back by own lackey.


Lol No.

Being backstabbed has nothing to do with being the most powerful. He was 100% sure that black zetsu was his creation. Would God expect you to try to kill him ? And he is indeed powerful. +Black Zetsu was not his Lackey it was Kaguya's lackey.

 

[BSK]

Yeah madara was the strongest.

 

[Madara the Solo King]

Being backstabbed has nothing to do with being the most powerful. He was 100% sure that black zetsu was his creation. Would God expect you to try to kill him ? And he is indeed powerful. +Black Zetsu was not his Lackey it was Kaguya's lackey.

Exactly it was a surprise attack and BZ was a traitor to everyone so Backstabbing has nothing to do with Madara being a great villain.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

of course madara is the greatest of all nobody in NV can ever surpass him, he have reached the highest rank and cannot be surpassed. Madara negs NV.

Sasuke surpassd him in skill.

 

[Angelic.]

he is the only juubijin shinju 3 eye user

 

[Loki d]

Yes Madara was and about Black Zetsu he was just sneaky he wasnt like all the others.

 

[Merkel]

Yeah he was the most competent Juubi Jin shinobi but even than he was plot nerfed, eg. hardly pushed the potential of the rinnegan and didn't get to see his full potential because of plot obvs.

 

[Namar]

Sasuke surpassd him in skill.

I personally do not think that Sasuke surpassed him yet.

Also, Sasuke will never have his chakra stamina because he has no senju dna.

When Madara will make 10 Chibaku Tensei, Sasuke will make 2-3 because of low chakra reserves.

 

[Gagster]

Being backstabbed has nothing to do with being the most powerful. He was 100% sure that black zetsu was his creation. Would God expect you to try to kill him ? And he is indeed powerful. +Black Zetsu was not his Lackey it was Kaguya's lackey.

I does have something to do with being competent. He was a fool to trust Black Zetsu and was manipulated from the start. He's no god, listed to the words of Black Zetsu himself.

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He was just a pawn of BZ the entire time, no more.

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

> Gai wrecked Madara and barely survive thanks to his juubi power...
> Sasuke sliced the Meteors with Madara double rinnegan like hotcakes
> Naruto Tanked Limbo
> Sasuke& Gai speed blitz Madara
> BZ one shot Madara

Madara is nothing to compare to the Ootsutski and the current Naruto&Sasuke

 

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[Naruto X Hunter]

I personally do not think that Sasuke surpassed him yet.

Also, Sasuke will never have his chakra stamina because he has no senju dna.

When Madara will make 10 Chibaku Tensei, Sasuke will make 2-3 because of low chakra reserves.

I specifically said skill not chakra levels.

Sasuke can use elements with his Susano'o - Lightning, Enton, while Madara can't. Sasuke teleported his Susano'o, and used Preta Path with it, while Madara said he couldn't.

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Sasuke's chakra control was said to be on the Sage's level by the Kyuubi during the final battle, now he's jumping to Kaguya's dimension which only Kaguya has shown to be able to do.

 

[Madara the Solo King]

I does have something to do with being competent. He was a fool to trust Black Zetsu and was manipulated from the start. He's no god, listed to the words of Black Zetsu himself.

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He was just a pawn of BZ the entire time, no more.

Obito is in the same damn boat. Actually BZ would have killed that fool 3 times already if it weren't for Madara.

 

[Namar]

I does have something to do with being competent. He was a fool to trust Black Zetsu and was manipulated from the start. He's no god, listed to the words of Black Zetsu himself.

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He was just a pawn of BZ the entire time, no more.

You are mixing 2 different things together.

Being the strongest and the most competent doesn't mean that it makes you aware of the situation.

Remember that his entire idealism was based on the tablet Black Zetsu altereted before he was even born. He was not capable of reading thoughts as none of the villains shown to be capable of doing it.

And how many kings did fall because of traitors ? Your arguments are invalid.

Black Zetsu said he is not the "savior" because he was under Kaguya's Domination. I bet that you will always think that your friend is better than the enemy when in reality it could be the oposite

 

[Gagster]

Obito is in the same damn boat. Actually BZ would have killed that fool 3 times already if it weren't for Madara.

Black Zetsu states that. All Uchiha have been a tool for him to revive Kaguya.

You are mixing 2 different things together.

Being the strongest and the most competent doesn't mean that it makes you aware of the situation.

Remember that his entire idealism was based on the tablet Black Zetsu altereted before he was even born. He was not capable of reading thoughts as none of the villains shown to be capable of doing it.

And how many kings did fall because of traitors ? Your arguments are invalid.

Black Zetsu said he is not the "savior" because he was under Kaguya's Domination. I bet that you will always think that your friend is better than the enemy when in reality it could be the oposite

Lol, where done here.

Madara was just a tool of Black Zetsu, get over it.

 

[Namar]

I specifically said skill not chakra levels.

Sasuke can use elements with his Susano'o - Lightning, Enton, while Madara can't. Sasuke teleported his Susano'o, and used Preta Path with it, while Madara said he couldn't.

Sasuke's chakra control was said to be on the Sage's level by the Kyuubi during the final battle, now he's jumping to Kaguya's dimension which only Kaguya has shown to be able to do.

I do believe that healing yourself after being cut in half and raped by the night moth makes enton and lightning some shit abilities.

Uhm he could jump to dimensions too. It's just the he didn't know.

The only Kaguya waited for so long to come back was because she needed an identical body to her old one. She could have jumped to anyone with black zetsu but she needed someone with her powers. That alones makes madara capable of going through dimensions.