Could Madara use amaterasu? Did I miss something?

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And he doesn't have Susano'o either soooooo good fail.

OP: There are two schools of thought on this.

School 1:
Susano'o is activated by unlocking the MS skills of each eye (left and right)

School 2(Which I agree with):
Susano'o is activated by unlocking the MS skills Amaterasu and Tsukyomi.

The confusion comes from Itachi's explanation to Sasuke. Itachi had Amaterasu and Tsukyomi and when describing it said you need to unlock MS skills in both eyes. Some interpret this as his tech's specifically and others believe he meant MS skills regardless. Madara planned on doing Infinite Tsukyomi so it stands to reason that he has the ability of Tsukyomi. He's also the strongest Uchiha in history until Sasuke is shown to surpass him so it also stands to reason that he possesses the strongest Katon technique aka Amaterasu.

Incorrect,the name Infinite Tsukiyomi refers to casting a powerful genjutsu on the moon and then projecting it across the entire world.Madara does not have Amaterasu or Tsukiyomi.
 

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Hashirama has healing techniques on par to that of Tsunade's Byokogu. In top of that, he has the counter for Amatersu.

Just because he hasn't shown it, doesn't mean he doesn't have it. The absence of evidence isn't the evidence of absence.

Kishi still hasn't disproved the Databook statement so therefore it stays true as it is.

You're wasting your time. Most of the Narutobase members are as senile as their grand parents. Nevermind the fact that the manga and the databooks already established that Susano'o can only be used by someone who has learned Amaterasu and Tsukyomi, these f@ggots still don't accept these facts.
 

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Incorrect,the name Infinite Tsukiyomi refers to casting a powerful genjutsu on the moon and then projecting it across the entire world.Madara does not have Amaterasu or Tsukiyomi.

Tsukiyomi is the powerful genjutsu and madara has both there is a single reason you have to state other wise
 

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Incorrect,the name Infinite Tsukiyomi refers to casting a powerful genjutsu on the moon and then projecting it across the entire world.Madara does not have Amaterasu or Tsukiyomi.

That's about the level of competence I'd expect from a Texan. When you're done lynching minorities and banging your sister let us know.
 

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Tsukiyomi is the powerful genjutsu and madara has both there is a single reason you have to state other wise
It can be any genjutsu since the Juubi would make the user more powerful,and Madara does not have Ama and Tsukiyomi because each MS has their own unique occular techniques.
 

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It can be any genjutsu since the Juubi would make the user more powerful,and Madara does not have Ama and Tsukiyomi because each MS has their own unique occular techniques.

So Itachi and Sasuke both have Amaterasu, Tsukyomi, and Susano'o yet you think that each MS user has different techniques. This dude is a troll and a bad one at that. F#ck this nigga.
 

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The Third Databook states that in order to awaken the Susano'o, one must be able to use the Amaterasu and the Tsukuyomi. If we go by this, then theoretically, he should be able to use it, but seeing as he hasn't used it yet, even when faced against someone like Hashi [As far as we know], I'd say that it's fairly safe to assume that he can't use it, or to at least assume that he's not too proficient with it.
I can't help, but agree with this....
 

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It can be any genjutsu since the Juubi would make the user more powerful,and Madara does not have Ama and Tsukiyomi because each MS has their own unique occular techniques.

not really three ms user have susanoo right? is that someone own unique jutsu ? no. point been whether you guys like it or not it has been stated in the manga and databook that amaterasu and tsukuyomi is required from to obtain susanoo.
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Madara doesnt have it, even if amaterasu is ineffective against hashirama, madara has been shown to use fodder fire techniques against him in the flashbacks
amaterasu is the highest fire release attack is at least better than standard fire techniques
 

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no he doesnt have them every sharingun is stated to have some kind of special power which differs from one user to another MS itachi had amaterasu obito's was kumai so i dont think he has it,when he used blaze release wouldnt have been more appropriate to use amaterasu stomp the whole alliance ? kinda like when itachi used it against sasuke
 

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no he doesnt have them every sharingun is stated to have some kind of special power which differs from one user to another MS itachi had amaterasu obito's was kumai so i dont think he has it,when he used blaze release wouldnt have been more appropriate to use amaterasu stomp the whole alliance ? kinda like when itachi used it against sasuke

sasuke unlocked all three jutsu without itachi eyes please how that differ from itachi ? while the only different power him obtained was to control the black flames
 

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sasuke unlocked all three jutsu without itachi eyes please how that differ from itachi ? while the only different power him obtained was to control the black flames

Dafuq did I just read? :eww:
 

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Even though we didn't see it, I'd wager he does have it.

Personally I do believe one needs Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi for Susanoo

I mean all three are sibling gods in Shintoism born from Izanagi, Susanoo was born last after Izanagi washed out both his eyes and birthed Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi....so it makes sense for one to possess Tsukyomi and Amaterasu since they get susanoo last

Also Madara is supposed to be the "greatest" or "father" of the Uchiha, so it just seems right for him to possess those powers
 

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According to the Databook, Madara has Amatersu:
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Both Itachi and Sasuke used Amatersu along with Tsukuyomi in order to use Susanoo. To say Madara doesn't have them because he hasn't shown them is not plausible.

I would follow what manga and Databook said. Madara has Amatersu.
 

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I don't want to even answer this question.

It's a hot topic in NB. One thread is enough to bring hundreds of debaters for a full-out flamewar.

There's no clear evidence. Databook has been proved wrong many times by contradictions, yet some still believe that Madara has Amaterasu since Tsukuyomi is needed for the plan.

This thread is useless now.
 

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Databook is outdated and Sasuke does'nt have Tsukiyomi and he could use Susanoo.

SAsuke does have Tsukuyomi... Danzo stated that Sasuke's Tsukuyomi was just pathetic compared to Itachi's so yeah you need to read the manga/watch the anime more ._.
 
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