Could Madara use amaterasu? Did I miss something?

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I don't think I did but look at this link from Narutopedia



And what they said on his sharingan bio

"Madara demonstrated the ability to use Susanoo — and is therefore also able to use Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu by extension — though they have yet to be seen."

Should I believe this or not
 

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No. obito doesn't even have AMaterasu on either eyes
 

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I don't believe it
 

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Maybe, maybe not.

I personally don't think you need Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi for Susanoo
 

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They did say Susanoo is rare, just because u unlock MS doesn't mean u get susanoo.

Obito won't have it, shisui probably didnt
 

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You should.

That wiki statement came from the manga and Databook. Madara has Susanoo because he can use Amatersu and Tsukuyomi.

My thread should help:


Susanoo = Amatersu + Tsukuyomi. Databook and Manga fact.
 

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The Third Databook states that in order to awaken the Susano'o, one must be able to use the Amaterasu and the Tsukuyomi. If we go by this, then theoretically, he should be able to use it, but seeing as he hasn't used it yet, even when faced against someone like Hashi [As far as we know], I'd say that it's fairly safe to assume that he can't use it, or to at least assume that he's not too proficient with it.
 

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I dont think so but her fire abilities were pretty Op, according to Tsunade.
 

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The Third Databook states that in order to awaken the Susano'o, one must be able to use the Amaterasu and the Tsukuyomi. If we go by this, then theoretically, he should be able to use it, but seeing as he hasn't used it yet, even when faced against someone like Hashi [As far as we know], I'd say that it's fairly safe to assume that he can't use it, or to at least assume that he's not too proficient with it.

Hashirama actually has a counter for Amatersu. He can push the flames from his body using Mokuton. Same way Yamato did to Lord Sasuke chidori katana.

Madara just thought it would be useless to use something that wont work.
 

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I dont think so but her fire abilities were pretty Op, according to Tsunade.

Madara is a man...

Anyways, until Kishi shows something that proves the databook wrong, it stands that you need Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi to access Susano'o.
 

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yes madara can use both amaterasu and tsukiyomi even thou he hasnt displayed them, both are required to obtain susanoo
 

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Hashirama actually has a counter for Amatersu. He can push the flames from his body using Mokuton. Same way Yamato did to Lord Sasuke chidori katana.

Madara just thought it would be useless to use something that wont work.
An attack such as the Amaterasu is almost never completely ineffective, even against someone like Hashirama. Even if Mokuton might be able to counter it, an Amaterasu in the face will hurt pretty much anyone and would certainly buy Madara some time, and even if it wouldn't, Hashirama being able to counter it doesn't explain why Madara wouldn't have used it on any one else so far.
 

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he can, itachi said if you can use susanoo you can use Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi
 

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An attack such as the Amaterasu is almost never completely ineffective, even against someone like Hashirama. Even if Mokuton might be able to counter it, an Amaterasu in the face will hurt pretty much anyone and would certainly buy Madara some time, and even if it wouldn't, Hashirama being able to counter it doesn't explain why Madara wouldn't have used it on any one else so far.
There's a lot of that fight we haven't seen, it's not impossible that Madara has used it. For all we know, Madara isn't very proficient in Amatarasu. Even if it's a strong jutsu, given Madara's personality, using it weakly is still a type of being weak, and so he doesn't use it at all for the sake of his pride.
 

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He doesn't have Amaterasu. An attack such as the Amaterasu is almost never completely ineffective, even against someone like Hashirama. Even if Mokuton might be able to counter it, an Amaterasu in the face will hurt pretty much anyone and would certainly buy Madara some ti

yes madara can use both amaterasu and tsukiyomi even thou he hasnt displayed them, both are required to obtain susanoo

me, and even if it wouldn't, Hashirama being able to counter it doesn't explain why Madara wouldn't have used it on any one else so far.Madara is a man...

Anyways, until Kishi shows something that proves the databook wrong, it stands that you need Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi to access Susano'o. Hashirama actually has a counter for Amatersu. He can push the flames from his body using Mokuton. Same way Yamato did to Lord Sasuke chidori katana.

Madara just thought it would be useless to use something that wont work. The Third Databook states that in order to awaken the Susano'o, one must be able to use the Amaterasu and the Tsukuyomi. If we go by this, then theoretically, he should be able to use it, but seeing as he hasn't used it yet, even when faced against someone like Hashi [As far as we know], I'd say that it's fairly safe to assume that he can't use it, or to at least assume that he's not too proficient with it.
 

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Madara is a man...

Anyways, until Kishi shows something that proves the databook wrong, it stands that you need Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi to access Susano'o.
Oh I sorry I'm not use to talking about men :|
I would be a jack ass and say Proof that Madara's a man, but I wont. lol
I'm not knowledgeable on the Uchiha so I wont argue.
 

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An attack such as the Amaterasu is almost never completely ineffective, even against someone like Hashirama. Even if Mokuton might be able to counter it, an Amaterasu in the face will hurt pretty much anyone and would certainly buy Madara some time, and even if it wouldn't, Hashirama being able to counter it doesn't explain why Madara wouldn't have used it on any one else so far.

Hashirama has healing techniques on par to that of Tsunade's Byokogu. In top of that, he has the counter for Amatersu.

Just because he hasn't shown it, doesn't mean he doesn't have it. The absence of evidence isn't the evidence of absence.

Kishi still hasn't disproved the Databook statement so therefore it stays true as it is.
 
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