Could Kakashi surpass Hiruzen??

[Bogard]

People always think that to be strong, you must have overpowered jutsus. What's really wrong and ridiculous. Minato for example was considered as one of the strongest ninja mostly cuz of his speed and FTG. Hiruzen was considered as strong cuz he was able to master a great bunches of jutsus.

So far we know, he is a master in doton and katon jutsus, extremly talented in taijutsu, using kage bunshin as a feint and with Enma he could do great combos.

Kakashi on the other hand can do doton jutsus as well also, but he could also use suiton, raiton and katon(in anime) jutsus. Very experimented and talented in taijutsu, using a lot feints with kage bunshins(like hiruzen), has also good assassinations technics like Raikiri. Has good tracking fang technics and summons. He mastered sharingan and MS, and even got a very dangerous technic against almost every opponent(kamui). He is really respected by every opponent he meets mostly cuz of his reputation and feats all over the world

I think that when you analyse clearly, you can see that these 2 have most likely the same style, so i was wondering myself if Kakashi could not surpass him

So what do you think?

 

[SiroNS]

I think Kakashi would win because of his intelligence and his amount of jutsus (copied). Mostly for intelligence.

 

[Nikohru]

^ what he said

 

[Narubro]

I think Kakashi would win because of his intelligence and his amount of jutsus (copied). Mostly for intelligence.

yes because the hokage called by many "the professor" is pretty dumb compared to kakashi yes of course why didn't I think fo this before

 

[Guli]

:Fp: no Hiruzen would mop the floor whit Kakashi

 

[Owarij]

I think Kakashi would win because of his intelligence and his amount of jutsus (copied). Mostly for intelligence.

right.. and hiruzen wasn't also a genius who didn't have much more jutsu than him

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

he already has. hiruzen is fast surpassing itachi and shodaime as the most overwanked character

 

[teravita9]

Hard to say,current Kakashi isnt there yet and dont know if he ll improve anymore.
I say no.

 

[Retsu]

kakashi is good, he really is, but his strength comes from team work and such, he's not a solo type stand your ground kage level fighter, his strength comes from knowing when to do what, and how well he synergizes with the rest of the team, but sharingan holds him back from being great imho.

The chakra strain handicaps him too greatly for him to ever really fight any top ninja 1 on 1, for long periods of time like Naruto, and I feel he lacks the raw offensive power to end the fight early, like Itachi. He's a great character and all, but I seriously doubt he will be surpassing anyone anytime soon.

 

[Eano]

Hard to say,current Kakashi isnt there yet and dont know if he ll improve anymore.
I say no.

this

 

[Bogard]

Hard to say,current Kakashi isnt there yet and dont know if he ll improve anymore.
I say no.

He could still improve by mastering his kamui even more, and use it much more often so that it could become his most strongest attack in a fight and really dangerous technic

 

[Bogard]

kakashi is good, he really is, but his strength comes from team work and such, he's not a solo type stand your ground kage level fighter, his strength comes from knowing when to do what, and how well he synergizes with the rest of the team, but sharingan holds him back from being great imho.

The chakra strain handicaps him too greatly for him to ever really fight any top ninja 1 on 1, for long periods of time like Naruto, and I feel he lacks the raw offensive power to end the fight early, like Itachi. He's a great character and all, but I seriously doubt he will be surpassing anyone anytime soon.

He has more chakra than old Hiruzen who even feared to use one kage bunshin, cuz he could die cuz of it. He has also more chakra than Itachi for example

 

[teravita9]

He could still improve by mastering his kamui even more, and use it much more often so that it could become his most strongest attack in a fight and really dangerous technic

Yeah master it even more then lose his eye sight.
Then he is much weaker.

 

[Hipster Madara]

he already has. hiruzen is fast surpassing itachi and shodaime as the most overwanked character

agreed.
he is full of hype until i see something that makes me think he deserves it.
an old interview that might be fake by kishi isn't convincing me...

hype: hiruzen
what we seen: ????(havent seen anything on hiruzen)

 

[chaotykxninja]

i think kakashi cud fkn kill him quicker than oro. i mean jesus, kakashi cud mop up naruto. yes i know kakashi said that naruto surpassed him but if they got into it kakashi cud beat him, more experience, and it wudn't surprise me if he had more experience than hiruzen. kakashi traveled the entire world, plus he traveled with minato so that means thousands of OP battles, yeah hiruzen wud be DEAD.There's a reason they killed off hiruzen quick but kakashi's still kicking in the War arc. Kakashi is like the second son of minato, him and naruto are practically brothers. he spent so much time with naruto's dad that he learned the resengan, There's a reason they killed off hiruzen quick but kakashi's still kicking in the War arc. End of Thread.

 

[Exaar]

I don't think Kakashi will Ever Supass Hiruzen.

kakashi is a Good All rounded Ninja Yes, But Even in his Old Age he Still Supassed Kakashi in Tai/Gen.
Hiruzen has over 1000 Jutsu's that are Just Genjutsu, Thats not Counting Ninjutsu.
The amount of jutsu's Hiruzen has could of Far exceed Kakashi's.

Hiruzen Only had 3's in Stamina/Strength/Speed because of his Old Age, Yet he still had Equal Stamina to kakashi xd.

 

[Bogard]

Yeah master it even more then lose his eye sight.
Then he is much weaker.

Nothing prove that at the time he will master it, he will get blind, so he could still improve before getting blind eventually, and we don't even know for sure that he will get blind. Maybe it doesn't work the same way since he is not a Uchiha and didn't got his MS by killing someone

 

[Retsu]

He has more chakra than old Hiruzen who even feared to use one kage bunshin, cuz he could die cuz of it. He has also more chakra than Itachi for example

Old Hiruzen lasted pretty good against the opposition he was against, and Enma the summon is pretty powerful, Kakashi I honestly can't see doing what Hiruzen did, Kakashi shines when he can either be supported or is support, old Hiruzen is a force to be reckoned with when enma is around.

 

[YellowFang]

Kakashi in a deep sense of thought has surpassed him, Kakashi has more jutsus copied than Hiruzen owned, by feats so far Kakashi is proven to be more intellect than HIruzen, IMO Kakashi's use of shadow clones is more fair than 3rd.......Only chakra is the bridge which keeps Kakashi from becoming top 10, which is the blessing of sharingan he gained from obito......And sharingan is that edge which tends its user more victor than a traditional fighter regardless of how strong he may be....

 

[YellowFang]

I don't think Kakashi will Ever Supass Hiruzen.

kakashi is a Good All rounded Ninja Yes, But Even in his Old Age he Still Supassed Kakashi in Tai/Gen.
Hiruzen has over 1000 Jutsu's that are Just Genjutsu, Thats not Counting Ninjutsu.
The amount of jutsu's Hiruzen has could of Far exceed Kakashi's.

Hiruzen Only had 3's in Stamina/Strength/Speed because of his Old Age, Yet he still had Equal Stamina to kakashi xd.

Link please??? Before performing such a trolling deed....