Confusion caused by Kishimoto by RSM

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What is the difference between these things :|

Here when he first used RSM see here there's no pigment
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Look here in Gaiden no TSBs at all :|
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In Naruto the last he seems to just have Toad Sage Mode and KCM :| there's no cloak at all
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Here in boruto the movie there's no cloak as well and there are no TSB too :|

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Are they trying to confuse us :|:|:|:|:|
 

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In Gaiden and the Last he was using BSM. The only time he used RSM is in the Kaguya Arc. The difference between RSM cloak and BSM cloak is the pattern on the back.


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RSM doesn't give Naruto a cloak. That was just his ripped jacket he had during the war that made it seem like that.

And Naruto will only get TSB if he call on the tailed beasts and get their chakra since the TSB he had was compromised of their KKG's.
 

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RSM doesn't give Naruto a cloak. That was just his ripped jacket he had during the war that made it seem like that.

And Naruto will only get TSB if he call on the tailed beasts and get their chakra since the TSB he had was compromised of their KKG's.

TSB automatically appear when he activates his RSM cloak, he doesn't need to call on the bijuu
 

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And Naruto will only get TSB if he call on the tailed beasts and get their chakra since the TSB he had was compromised of their KKG's.

Where are you getting this?? :sdo:
Toneri, Hamura had no bijuu thing yet they had TSB and Ashura by argument was shown with no bijuu yet had TSB
 

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How do you think he got those TSB? The Bijuu's KKG/chakra.

He may have to call on the bijuu to activate RSM but as soon as he has RSM he doesn't need them to activate the TSB because they automatically appear when the cloak is turned on, he demonstrated it in the Kaguya arc.
 

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In Gaiden and the Last he was using BSM. The only time he used RSM is in the Kaguya Arc. The difference between RSM cloak and BSM cloak is the pattern on the back.


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If he's using BSM in gaiden then where's Toad sage the eye pigment
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Biju Sage Mode has no Goudoudamas only Rikudou Sennin Mode which we have only seen him use once.
 

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Biju Sage Mode has no Goudoudamas only Rikudou Sennin Mode which we have only seen him use once.

So In the last he uses BSM cause he has the pigment and BM...
In gaiden I can assume that's some pseudo BM and sage shit or what because he has the cross pupil and iris of BM and Sage mode yet he has no Toad sage pigment
 

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Where are you getting this?? :sdo:
Toneri, Hamura had no bijuu thing yet they had TSB and Ashura by argument was shown with no bijuu yet had TSB
Toneri had Tenseigan which is Byakugan+Hamura's chakra. Same as sage/six paths chakra.
Hamura same as above.
With Ashura for all we know had some Bijuu chakra inside of him.

He may have to call on the bijuu to activate RSM but as soon as he has RSM he doesn't need them to activate the TSB because they automatically appear when the cloak is turned on, he demonstrated it in the Kaguya arc.
This is RSM.

With the cloak it's just mixed with his BM/BSM mode too. But the Bijuu's KKG/chakra gave him the TSB.

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If he's using BSM in gaiden then where's Toad sage the eye pigment
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He's in his prime and has Hagoromo's chakra, it's logical to assume he mastered the use of NE to the point he has no pigmentation in BSM
 

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He's in his prime and has Hagoromo's chakra, it's logical to assume he mastered the use of NE to the point he has no pigmentation in BSM



What's NE?
In boruto the Movie he has pigment yet that movie is after Gaiden :|
 

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Toneri had Tenseigan which is Byakugan+Hamura's chakra. Same as sage/six paths chakra.
Hamura same as above.
With Ashura for all we know had some Bijuu chakra inside of him.


This is RSM.

With the cloak it's just mixed with his BM/BSM mode too. But the Bijuu's KKG/chakra gave him the TSB.

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He called on the bijuu just before activating RSM
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And then the TSB automatically appeared without having to call on them
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He only called the bijuu to activate RSM, but the TSB appear automatically when he activates the RSM cloak.
 

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What's NE?


Natural Energy

In boruto the Movie he has pigment yet that movie is after Gaiden :|

Did he have the pigment in BSM ? If he had it in BSM then it's just the usual inconsistency from the author, he used to draw Sasuke's EMS with the normal MS pattern sometimes.
 

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Did he have the pigment in BSM ? If he had it in BSM then it's just the usual inconsistency from the author, he used to draw Sasuke's EMS with the normal MS pattern sometimes.

My point exactly :sdo:

Too many confusing inconsistencies.





and to the NE part. Natural Energy is Senjutsu :|
 

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He called on the bijuu just before activating RSM
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And then the TSB automatically appeared without having to call on them
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He only called the bijuu to activate RSM, but the TSB appear automatically when he activates the RSM cloak.
You do know that 1st scan doesn't mean anything right? Hagoromo just gave the Bijuu's chakra that was in Naruto a conscious/mind.
The Bijuu's chakra was already with him so of course the TSB would show up when using the cloak he's still using the Bijuu's chakra.
 

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You do know that 1st scan doesn't mean anything right? Hagoromo just gave the Bijuu's chakra that was in Naruto a conscious/mind.
The Bijuu's chakra was already with him so of course the TSB would show up when using the cloak he's still using the Bijuu's chakra.

Dude how many times should I tell bijuus have nothing to do with TBS.

TSB appears to anyone who is using Six Paths Senjutsu

Toneri
Hamura
Ashura
Hagoromo
Madara
Juubito

Toneri and Hamura and possibly Ashura were never Jins
 

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Fodder enemy does not required TSB.... that is like telling the manga to shut down
 
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