Confusion about Susanoo. Please read.

[BAN_KAI]

Re: !

Holy!! Cr*P! You ARE perverted
But Yeah i think Sasuke used distance-sucking, like "In-out-no-jutsu" lo.

ROFLLlllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

 

[zumorikato]

Re: !

Holy!! Cr*P! You ARE perverted
But Yeah i think Sasuke used distance-sucking, like "In-out-no-jutsu" lo.

I prefer to call myself gifted, but nobody compares to Sasuke!!!

Dude, now your scareing me!!! First he can do it with his eyes, and now your telling me he can "suck", from long distances aswell!!!

Nobody is save against Sasuke!!!

 

[roflcopter]

Re: !

I prefer to call myself gifted, but nobody compares to Sasuke!!!

Dude, now your scareing me!!! First he can do it with his eyes, and now your telling me he can "suck", from long distances aswell!!!

Nobody is save against Sasuke!!!

Why am i scaring you? Actually i thought it's impossible to suck from a close distance since eye-techniques are all ranged!

Oh yeah, you're right, sasuke is gonna become the mighty cucumber.

I have a bad feeling, i feel infraction its no good. ;/

 

[leafeater]

I personally don't like these threads (In particular posting in them) because they vier off course and words can become ad hominem.

Susanoo is a jutsu (doujutsu specifically). We have not encountered a single jutsu else in the Narutoverse that is invincible. What I will say is nothing new. Every jutsu has a:

Strength: (D->S+)
Transformation jutsu (D?), shadow clone (C?), multi-shadow clone (C+-/B-), 64 palms (B+), Rasengan/Chidori (A), MS (S+), FRS (S+), Chibaku Tensei (S+) etc.

Cost/Risk:
(chakra usage (any jutsu especially multi-shadow clones, summoning jutsu), blindness (MS), reduction in lifespan... (Kyuubi mode 4-tails+, massive Shinra Tensei), etc.

Weakness:
(Shinra Tensei's 5s rule, hand signs, many water jutsu must be cast near water, sage mode (toad fusion, shadow sage clones, lack of movement, etc), Kirin (requires access to the sky {I think}, not sure about cloud type or if that just enhances the jutsu), elemental jutsu all have countes)

Just because we have not seen Susanoo's weakness does not prove it doesn't have one. Absence of proof is not proof of absence. If every other jutsu we know has a weakness it's logical Susanoo does too. If we have seen most of these, we'll most likely see Susanoo's later on. If it was invincible, I don't understand why Itachi wouldn't have used it to protect Sasuke by fighting Madara, any members of Akatsuki, and Orochimaru.

History is an excellent indicator of the future, though clearly not absolute. Logic indicates that Susanoo has a weakness, and I believe it should be considered so until there is more evidence otherwise.

Now that is my personal argument. I make no claims that I am correct and others false. I have nothing invested in Susanoo being invincible or not; other than that it would make life somewhat boring since every time it appears the battle is over.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, so please, we must remember that in our wording. I am happy to hear persuasive arguments on this type of topic, but we must criticize the argument not the person. This is what I'm certain of in this post, everything else is yours to find flaws in. Peace out, and good luck.


:akatsuki:

 

[zumorikato]

I personally don't like these threads (In particular posting in them) because they vier off course and words can become ad hominem.

Susanoo is a jutsu (doujutsu specifically). We have not encountered a single jutsu else in the Narutoverse that is invincible. What I will say is nothing new. Every jutsu has a:

Strength: (D->S+)
Transformation jutsu (D?), shadow clone (C?), multi-shadow clone (C+-/B-), 64 palms (B+), Rasengan/Chidori (A), MS (S+), FRS (S+), Chibaku Tensei (S+) etc.

Cost/Risk:
(chakra usage (any jutsu especially multi-shadow clones, summoning jutsu), blindness (MS), reduction in lifespan... (Kyuubi mode 4-tails+, massive Shinra Tensei), etc.

Weakness:
(Shinra Tensei's 5s rule, hand signs, many water jutsu must be cast near water, sage mode (toad fusion, shadow sage clones, lack of movement, etc), Kirin (requires access to the sky {I think}, not sure about cloud type or if that just enhances the jutsu), elemental jutsu all have countes)

Just because we have not seen Susanoo's weakness does not prove it doesn't have one. Absence of proof is not proof of absence. If every other jutsu we know has a weakness it's logical Susanoo does too. If we have seen most of these, we'll most likely see Susanoo's later on. If it was invincible, I don't understand why Itachi wouldn't have used it to protect Sasuke by fighting Madara, any members of Akatsuki, and Orochimaru.

History is an excellent indicator of the future, though clearly not absolute. Logic indicates that Susanoo has a weakness, and I believe it should be considered so until there is more evidence otherwise.

Now that is my personal argument. I make no claims that I am correct and others false. I have nothing invested in Susanoo being invincible or not; other than that it would make life somewhat boring since every time it appears the battle is over.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, so please, we must remember that in our wording. I am happy to hear persuasive arguments on this type of topic, but we must criticize the argument not the person. This is what I'm certain of in this post, everything else is yours to find flaws in. Peace out, and good luck.


:akatsuki:

Wise words! I like the approach that you took, and that is the exact same logic that I followed in concluding in my answer. Now back to the topic, what do you think of Sasuke's eye sucking ability? lolol (No, just joking)

 

[Avani]

I doubt it because Susanoo uses the shield after Itachi gives Naruto the power so if it were the shield he gave Naruto, Susanoo wouldn't be able to have it too.

Well, it was kind of summonned... It wasn't something physical which Itachi was carrying in his hands... So he might have given that ability to Naruto or something... Note that I am not saying that it's Susano what itachi gave to Naruto... I am saying that it is a posiiblity based on what I have read above...

 

[ringleader]

interesting read

 

[peaceful]

Ok. From the beggining.

Im a Itachi fan, and as you can see my avatar is a dead give away.
However Im still realistic in regards to when a jitsu is better than another.

Do you imply that this is not an objective thread? Because if you do you are dellusional. As you may have read i have only used Databook as a reference.

As we have seen in the manga this far we can classify susanoo as an absolute defense. Please correct me if Im wrong.

True.

In the beginning of Naruto we have encountered numerous others with absolute defenses, ect Gaara and Haku and if we take Azuma's teacher with his "bhuda technique" (lol I call it this for my own ignorance to check up in the manga as what its called.)

The biggest misconception of all.
No. These were not ultimate defences. These were gennin ultimate level defences. Did you ever see Sarutobi looking with awe Garra and his defence? No. Now, please check Zetsus reaction.

All of those techniques are classify as high end techniques where the user have never been defeated/even got harmed in some cases, and even so we all now what happened to Haku aswell as with Gaara and those jitsus that was once feared as impenetrable and unavoidable and unstoppable ect always seem to have some weakness towards them. What then makes Susanoo any different?

Read above.

I would say the only logical reason is that we have not seen anybody fight a real fight or long enough against Susanoo to determine what his weakness might be.

What? And what about Orochimaru and Sasuke?

Sasuke was almost all out of chakra when facing Susanoo.

Yes out of chakra. You are right. Oh wait he used Kirin while out of chakra

Even though he used kirin unknowingly against Susanoo, and even though kirin is described as a S class unavoidable blah blah blah jitsu, this doesnt make it the end all and be all of all jitsus.

Yeah. Unavoidable s class jutsu is not that strong . Oh wait it was deflected only by Susanoo without the mirror.

It only proves that Susanoo is able to sustain damage from that type of jitsu

.
Its funny all of you talk about Susanno as a fighter and not as a jutsu.

Lets speculate then if Susanoo is a "god" and unstoppable what would you think would happen if lets say the third hokage or 4th summoned the Death "god" on Itachi, do you think that Susanoo would be able to "protect" Itachi from that? No, I dont think so, as the death god was able to seal the Kyuubi within Naruto, and the Kyuubi is said to have nearly an infinite amount of chakra.

In order to do that jutsu you need to have contact with the enemy as shown by the third and Oro. But Susanno makes the user untouchable. So your argument is invalid.

Thus I came to the conclusion that Susanoo is a very strong jitsu, but like all the jitsu's in the Narutovers, there is a weakness

I have still not seen that famous weakness...

Another thing. If Susanoo was able to seal Oro, we all saw that Itachi needed to lure Oro out in order to seal him. If that is not the case, and Susanoo could have just sealed Oro straight away why didnt Itachi use it first on Sasuke?

What are you saying. Itachi did not want to seal Sasuke. [Wtf people? Do you read the manga?]

Why then would you think that Susanoo can seal the Kyuubi if its not released in its full form

We were talking about a released fox

I would prefer that we rather speculate and give theories on what happend/happens in the manga than on some databook that is written on a certain time to spice things up for the readers only for that given moment.[/

Most of these are stated in the manga.

Susanoo is a jutsu (doujutsu specifically). We have not encountered a single jutsu else in the Narutoverse that is invincible. What I will say is nothing new. Every jutsu has a:

There is always an exception to the rule.

Just because we have not seen Susanoo's weakness does not prove it doesn't have one. Absence of proof is not proof of absence.

Untill proven otherwise i will follow what Kishi and databook says.

If every other jutsu we know has a weakness it's logical Susanoo does too.

Speculation.

If we have seen most of these, we'll most likely see Susanoo's later on.

Speculation.

If it was invincible, I don't understand why Itachi wouldn't have used it to protect Sasuke by fighting Madara, any members of Akatsuki, and Orochimaru.

Obviously you do not understand the manga very well neither the drawbacks of Susanoo. Itachi was ill. He was allowed to use Susanno only for a few moments. Why waste his precious moments on useless actions?

History is an excellent indicator of the future, though clearly not absolute. Logic indicates that Susanoo has a weakness, and I believe it should be considered so until there is more evidence otherwise.

Not really. Logic is subjective. Facts are objective. Objective>Subjective in terms of correctness.

Now that is my personal argument. I make no claims that I am correct and others false. I have nothing invested in Susanoo being invincible or not; other than that it would make life somewhat boring since every time it appears the battle is over.

That is why we will not see it again.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, so please, we must remember that in our wording. I am happy to hear persuasive arguments on this type of topic, but we must criticize the argument not the person. This is what I'm certain of in this post, everything else is yours to find flaws in. Peace out, and good luck.

I will rep you just for this post

 

[Preta]

Do you imply that this is not an objective thread? Because if you do you are dellusional. As you may have read i have only used Databook as a reference.

As you may have read, databook is about as factual as a pogo stick is flat-footed, more than anything it is a book of poetry, though it has some interesting info. However taking such a book literally only means that you must declare pain an invincible god and say he's about to blow up naruto and is just faking his injuries; unless you only believe the parts of the book that support you? Again, that's a serious problem.

The biggest misconception of all.
No. These were not ultimate defences. These were gennin ultimate level defences. Did you ever see Sarutobi looking with awe Garra and his defence? No. Now, please check Zetsus reaction.

Interesting point. Those were genin level ultimate defenses, yet genin broke through them, so it is only logical to assume that some s-class ninja could find a way to break through an s-class ultimate defense, right?

Read above.

Read above.

What? And what about Orochimaru and Sasuke?

Are you calling the ammount of time they battled Susanno..long?

Yeah. Unavoidable s class jutsu is not that strong . Oh wait it was deflected only by Susanoo without the mirror.

Again this is a fallacy on your behalf. Pain could absorb/deflect Kirin, this does not mean he has no weakness. Just because Susanno deflected it does not lend any evidence to your statement of its "invincibility."

I have still not seen that famous weakness...

This is a laughable post if you have actually read this manga at all. Every "special" jutsu has looked great on its first go round, yet in the end every single one has/had a weakness. Saying it doesn't have one because you haven't seen it yet, is like declaring Lee the greatest ninja after his first fight with Sasuke because, "no one could keep up with his speed and I have yet to see evidence to the contrary."

There is always an exception to the rule.

And that exception just so happens to be this jutsu? How convenient. And I doubt there is an exception in this case as having something literally unbeatable is bad story telling as it makes things boring, Kishi is far beyond that.

Untill proven otherwise i will follow what Kishi and databook says.

I already proved databook to be a joke, and since every jutsu has had a weakness up until now, you're the one going out on a limb, not leafeater.

Speculation.

Ironic. It is speculation on your behalf that one justu would be spared from "Kishi's law," after reading this manga, saying a jutsu has no counters is the most speculative view to have. Leafeater is simply working from what we have seen thus far in the manga, and thus far, one would be choosingly ignorant to assume Susanno has no weakness since everything else has.

Speculation.

Ironic.

Obviously you do not understand the manga very well neither the drawbacks of Susanoo. Itachi was ill. He was allowed to use Susanno only for a few moments. Why waste his precious moments on useless actions?

Waste? Killing the two biggest threats to the two most important things in his life was a waste? He was so desperate to protect Sasuke from madara that he even tried to kill madara by putting a trap Ama in Sasuke's eyes..yet you believe he had this jutsu capable of beating Madara ad Pain and just didn't bother? Oh sorry, capable of beating "everyone"(lol).

Not really. Logic is subjective. Facts are objective. Objective>Subjective in terms of correctness.

Your facts have been proven to come from a book that turns out to often be less than accurate. Logic would be seeing every jutsu looks amazing then gets countered later on, logic would be seeing that pattern and knowing it will only repeat itself again here. Your "facts" are to ignore the entire pattern of Kishi thus far and to believe a book that I proved to be more poetic than factual. Pal if those are your "facts" you can keep them.

That is why we will not see it again

i can't resist.......Speculation?

 

[Archor]

Do you imply that this is not an objective thread? Because if you do you are dellusional. As you may have read i have only used Databook as a reference.

That's a rude tone. I expected a better responce from someone named peaceful.

The biggest misconception of all.
No. These were not ultimate defences. These were gennin ultimate level defences. Did you ever see Sarutobi looking with awe Garra and his defence? No. Now, please check Zetsus reaction.

And where did you get that it was genin level defence?? Databook?

Why should Zetsu and Sarutobi react in the same manner in similar conditions? Zetsu has a double personality and talk to himself and reacts vocally.

Sautobi was Sarutobi, the third Hokage, not just some random S rank crminal. He didn't react much even at Orochimaru. Oro, the ex Akatsuki, had problems dealing with that old man, despite his extensive planning and surprise attack. Sarutobi had years of experience and he wouldn't go shriking seeing Gara in stadium.

Gara's father was fourth Kazikage who died around the Chunin exams. Gara became fifth Kazikage, right after his father's death was revealed. Does that tell you something about his level?

Gara, the Kazikage, is still probably a genin- as he didn't pass chunin exam that time and I don't think that the fifth Kazikage had to clear it after getting that title.

Sasuke and Naruto are still genins. By your logic, their attack and defence are genin level only.

Obviously you do not understand the manga very well neither the drawbacks of Susanoo.

Try to find a better way to counter an argument. Personal attacks don't really make you impressive.

 

[peaceful]

That's a rude tone. I expected a better responce from someone named peaceful.

Pain wants peace too . Find a better argument next time, please.

And where did you get that it was genin level defence?? Databook?

From the fact that they were destroyed by noobs and gennins. It is pretty simple.

Why should Zetsu and Sarutobi react in the same manner in similar conditions? Zetsu has a double personality and talk to himself and reacts vocally.

-facepalm- -facepalm- Yeah you are right . Susanno compares with the sand defence. Even against simple sharingan Kakashi Kurenai Asuma pissed their pants. Let alone Susanoo.

Sautobi was Sarutobi, the third Hokage, not just some random S rank crminal. He didn't react much even at Orochimaru. Oro, the ex Akatsuki, had problems dealing with that old man, despite his extensive planning and surprise attack. Sarutobi had years of experience and he wouldn't go shriking seeing Gara in stadium.

Neither Gai did nor anyone.

Gara's father was fourth Kazikage who died around the Chunin exams. Gara became fifth Kazikage, right after his father's death was revealed. Does that tell you something about his level?

That he is the strongest in a weak village?

Sasuke and Naruto are still genins. By your logic, their attack and defence are genin level only.

-Facepalm- I talk about level and not title. But it was expected...

Try to find a better way to counter an argument. Personal attacks don't really make you impressive.

:| How about you read my arguments first?

 

[roflcopter]

I enjoy reading this discussion, but what the hell is with your signature peaceful. Preta is discussing in the same way as you do, yet you ignore him, that's not really cool you know. He didnt even insult you.

 

[Preta]

I enjoy reading this discussion, but what the hell is with your signature peaceful. Preta is discussing in the same way as you do, yet you ignore him, that's not really cool you know. He didnt even insult you.

Thanks copter, however, it is nothing but a compliment and an honor(and smile inducing). When you call some people out and coldly challenge their opinions, they cannot handle it. Peaceful's "tantrum," is simply an expression of his frustration at my posts that keep challenging his points and tripping him up. Another sad example of someone who loves to argue with others but can't handle others arguing with him.

I would tell him that it's nothing personal and that he shouldn't dish it out if he can't take it, but I can't, he's ignoring me.

 

[roflcopter]

i would tell him that it's nothing personal and that he shouldn't dish it out if he can't take it, but i can't, he's ignoring me.

lol :d

 

[zumorikato]

Ok. From the beggining.

Do you imply that this is not an objective thread? Because if you do you are dellusional. As you may have read i have only used Databook as a reference.

Im sorry, Im only "implying" that your thread is subjective nothing else So please go and do your calculation regarding Objectivity>subjectivity equation again. Because your stating that you only used the Databook instead of the manga to prove your points. We all here read the manga not the databook, unless you havent noticed.

True.

I would have hoped so

The biggest misconception of all.
No. These were not ultimate defences. These were gennin ultimate level defences. Did you ever see Sarutobi looking with awe Garra and his defence? No. Now, please check Zetsus reaction.

There we go, now we are showing so knowledge, or rather let me rephrase that lack there of. You claim that Gaara's Ultimate defense level is that of a gennin, yet it takes Sasukes Chidori which is on the same level of an A/S class jitsu to penetrate it. I like the way you compare things. Very logical and Subjective.

Read above.

Read the manga

What? And what about Orochimaru and Sasuke?

What about Orochimaru and Sasuke?

Yes out of chakra. You are right. Oh wait he used Kirin while out of chakra

As usual somebody whom struggles to read the manga cant be expected to read another fans posts.

I said, that Kirin was used on Itachi without knowing that Itachi had the ability to summon Susanoo. After Susanoo's summoning, would you please be so kind as to elaborate on how many S class A class and other High end level jitsu's Sasuke used to defeat Itachi? Also please tell me with an honest face that the battle against Susanoo was long.

Yeah. Unavoidable s class jutsu is not that strong . Oh wait it was deflected only by Susanoo without the mirror.

Please read Petra's post in regards to Weaknesses vs Strengths and how easily Pain would have absorbed your Preciously strong S class Unavoidable jutsu.

Its funny all of you talk about Susanno as a fighter and not as a jutsu.

Speculation, totally irrelevant.

In order to do that jutsu you need to have contact with the enemy as shown by the third and Oro. But Susanno makes the user untouchable. So your argument is invalid.

Again Speculation. You only see the 3rd using that to prevent his victims from moving away before the jitsu gets hold of them, because the risk is to great to falter it if the person jumps away from the jitsu. Wait wait, just imagen the 4th, giving the fox a bear hug in order to seal him away, aint that cute? But its wrong!! I mean the foxes chakra is so strong it peels of Naruto's skin, It b!tch slaps Sakura into another Dimention but your telling me the 4th went to embrace it LOLOLOLOL

I have still not seen that famous weakness...

Its called patiants, something you will learn when reading the manga.

What are you saying. Itachi did not want to seal Sasuke. [Wtf people? Do you read the manga?]

If your knowledge regarding logic was as great as your ability to insult other people's opinion you might have understood what I explained there, considering its not, Im not going to explain it again to you, please go and reread my statement. And please follow your own advise and go and read the manga.

We were talking about a released fox

Wow, did you grasp that al by yourself?

Most of these are stated in the manga.

No, most of these you assume to be in the manga is a better statement.

There is always an exception to the rule.

Agreed

Untill proven otherwise i will follow what Kishi and databook says.

Speculation. + Opinion

Speculation.

Its called his opinion, which he shared

Obviously you do not understand the manga very well neither the drawbacks of Susanoo. Itachi was ill. He was allowed to use Susanno only for a few moments. Why waste his precious moments on useless actions?

Im sorry but I have to agree with leafeater, why treat the symptoms when you can cure the disease?

Not really. Logic is subjective. Facts are objective. Objective>Subjective in terms of correctness.

Your posts are subjective and the manga are objective thus your equation fails find another argument next time.

That is why we will not see it again.

Thats a very rude comment

I will rep you just for this post

Nice to hear something good

Pain wants peace too . Find a better argument next time, please.

Its strange to see that you are a fairly new member and already have such a high image of your self here, I think you need to have more respect for other forum memebers before someone complains regarding your comments. Considering your name contradicts your actions.

From the fact that they were destroyed by noobs and gennins. It is pretty simple.

So you make an assumption regarding their level because of what you have seen thus far, yet we are not allowed to do the same? Your a hypocrite!

-facepalm- -facepalm- Yeah you are right . Susanno compares with the sand defence. Even against simple sharingan Kakashi Kurenai Asuma pissed their pants. Let alone Susanoo.

Neither Gai did nor anyone.

That he is the strongest in a weak village?

I find it strange how you can claim that the second biggest country next to Konoha is weak, but hey if you have that type of logic then you probably cant complain?

-Facepalm- I talk about level and not title. But it was expected...

According to your standards. Thus = mere speculation.

:| How about you read my arguments first?

Like wise smart @ss

 

[Steinbiz]

I enjoy reading this discussion, but what the hell is with your signature peaceful. Preta is discussing in the same way as you do, yet you ignore him, that's not really cool you know. He didnt even insult you.

peaceful has AN ACTUAL "IGNORE LIST"???? HAHAHA omg dude. probably because there are so many people that think differently than peaceful does and also hate him. peaceful's whole purpose on this website is to prove to everyone how powerful susano'o is, even if it means insulting other people and their opinions. peaceful can't take feedback from other people because when he's faced with reality, he doesn't know what to say other than insulting someone.

if i were a mod, he'd be perma-banned

 

[peaceful]

I enjoy reading this discussion, but what the hell is with your signature peaceful. Preta is discussing in the same way as you do, yet you ignore him, that's not really cool you know. He didnt even insult you.

Really. It is nothing personal. If you have read the Pain Itachi discussion you would have noticed i changed my views on that matter only because of his/her post. However i prefer not to discuss with him/her anymore because i do not like it. I choose my friends. So i wrote that so as to prevent uselless actions.

Ok. From the beggining.

Im sorry, Im only "implying" that your thread is subjective nothing else

Like your post i guess .

So please go and do your calculation regarding Objectivity>subjectivity equation again.[/QUOTE
Ok. -calculating- The results are Databook>you .

Because your stating that you only used the Databook instead of the manga to prove your points. We all here read the manga not the databook, unless you havent noticed.

Still Databook>your opinion.

I would have hoped so

There we go, now we are showing so knowledge, or rather let me rephrase that lack there of. You claim that Gaara's Ultimate defense level is that of a gennin, yet it takes Sasukes Chidori which is on the same level of an A/S class jitsu to penetrate it. I like the way you compare things. Very logical and Subjective.

. One chidori. Last time i read the manga i saw kirin being unable to penetrate just Susanoo without the mirror. So if you are implying chidori>kirin then...oh well...

Read the manga

Thanks for the tip. Now one from me too: Use common logic .

What about Orochimaru and Sasuke?

As usual somebody whom struggles to read the manga cant be expected to read another fans posts.

I imagine you are talking to yourself...

I said, that Kirin was used on Itachi without knowing that Itachi had the ability to summon Susanoo. After Susanoo's summoning, would you please be so kind as to elaborate on how many S class A class and other High end level jitsu's Sasuke used to defeat Itachi? Also please tell me with an honest face that the battle against Susanoo was long.

yeah. How about destroying the hydra and orochimaru in 20 seconds.

Please read Petra's post in regards to Weaknesses vs Strengths and how easily Pain would have absorbed your Preciously strong S class Unavoidable jutsu.

Oh please. You know nothing about me and my posts. It is obvious just from this post.

Again Speculation. You only see the 3rd using that to prevent his victims from moving away before the jitsu gets hold of them, because the risk is to great to falter it if the person jumps away from the jitsu. Wait wait, just imagen the 4th, giving the fox a bear hug in order to seal him away, aint that cute? But its wrong!! I mean the foxes chakra is so strong it peels of Naruto's skin, It b!tch slaps Sakura into another Dimention but your telling me the 4th went to embrace it LOLOLOLOL

Proof?

Its called patiants, something you will learn when reading the manga.

Good.

If your knowledge regarding logic was as great as your ability to insult other people's opinion you might have understood what I explained there, considering its not, Im not going to explain it again to you, please go and reread my statement. And please follow your own advise and go and read the manga.

Wtf? Why are you talking to yourself all the time. Unless you are talking to me, which certainly is not, taking into consideration the fact that your posts make no sense whatsoever.


I am not going to respond to the other statements because they were not directed to you.

 

[Steinbiz]

peaceful, seriously dude. why do you have to be so mean to everyone just because they think differntly? if you create these kinds of threads, you should expect different typs of feeback. and when you get that feedback, you talk about the differences, not insult their opinions.....

 

[peaceful]

peaceful, seriously dude. why do you have to be so mean to everyone just because they think differntly? if you create these kinds of threads, you should expect different typs of feeback. and when you get that feedback, you talk about the differences, not insult their opinions.....

They force me!

 

[zumorikato]

Really. It is nothing personal. If you have read the Pain Itachi discussion you would have noticed i changed my views on that matter only because of his/her post. However i prefer not to discuss with him/her anymore because i do not like it. I choose my friends. So i wrote that so as to prevent uselless actions.

Ok. From the beggining.



Like your post i guess .

So please go and do your calculation regarding Objectivity>subjectivity equation again.

Ok. -calculating- The results are Databook>you .

Still Databook>your opinion.

Nope, wrong calculation, let me do the math for you. Its more like :

Manga > Databook > My opinion > Your opinion

LOLOLOLOL

. One chidori. Last time i read the manga i saw kirin being unable to penetrate just Susanoo without the mirror. So if you are implying chidori>kirin then...oh well...

No I think I said more in the lines of chidori > Gaara's absolute defense and Kirin < Susanoo

Thanks for the tip. Now one from me too: Use common logic .

Given your common logic is like this in the equation

manga > Peacefulls common logic

What about Orochimaru and Sasuke?

Are we still on the what about Oro + Sasuke talk?

I imagine you are talking to yourself...

Last time I checked no.

yeah. How about destroying the hydra and orochimaru in 20 seconds.

So you kinda agree that the match only took 20 seconds after Oro showed his face?

Oh please. You know nothing about me and my posts. It is obvious just from this post.

Please, humor me.

Proof?

Read the manga.

Good.

Thanx

Wtf? Why are you talking to yourself all the time. Unless you are talking to me, which certainly is not, taking into consideration the fact that your posts make no sense whatsoever.

Unless my name is peacefull, I dont think so?

Sorry that my post dont compute, as I have already indicated the reasons why it doesnt make sense. Read my previous post.

I am not going to respond to the other statements because they were not directed to you.

The fact that its not directed to me doesnt make my points any less valid and I have added them into the equation. Thus you will need to defend your remarks unless you agree to my response, that is?

Nice talk, but I will need some, how do you say it. . . . Proof to continue the debate.

(Side note, this is how to make friends, seriously! )