Confirmed: Rock Lee was talented from birth

[KingHashirama]

Well of course. Lee's training was intense once Gai took him under his wing. Extremely hard and intense compared to what ANY other person his age was doing (everyone thought his actions were eccentric)

Idk what to say about the genes thing. I guess you're implying that an innate ability for taijutsu was already in him. Maybe/maybe not

Can't do intense training, if your body can't handle it. And while doing his intense training, how come he wasn't getting knocked out?

Yea see here is the thing, you are stating Taijutsu training automatically >>> Ninjutsu training.. thats just plain out BS.

To be good in taijutsu you must workout your body.. thats a fact. However, your body has limits. Hence why you weak "fodders". However, Rock Lee never hasn't hit his limit yet. His body keeps on going.. he has a body that is meant for taijutsu.

How does someone catch up with the hardest worker in the manga (GAI), within 3-4 years without having any talent?

I dont really get how talent prevents one from achieving something with hard work.

I don't either.

Its like people think being talents = anti-hardwork.

When real life stats show, that people who are considered talented put in the most work.

Tiger woods.. Leonardo De Vinci, Beethoven, Mozart, Jordan.. List keeps going.

 

[Sir Blades]

He is a hard worker.

 

[Risuna23]

Lee's a talented hard worker

 

[Mad Daz]

Databook: Gai is the hardest worker

Rock Lee gets on Gai's level in 3-4 years.. Gai someone who has been working his ass off for over 20 years.. Yea sure ain't talent.


Yes Me and Kakashi are idiots, who can't see reality.

Did u even read what i posted >.<

I said he does have talent or else he wouldnt be considered a master of taijutsu. Hes not a super genius like some other chars but he got to their level through his training with gai and his natural body and skills.

 

[KingHashirama]

He is a hard worker.

No one is saying he isn't.. I'm saying he also had talent. Unlike Gai and his daddy. Lee had talent for Taijutsu.

Did u even read what i posted >.<

I said he does have talent or else he wouldnt be considered a master of taijutsu. Hes not a super genius like some other chars but he got to their level through his training with gai and his natural body and skills.

No one in the manga is a super genius lol.

My bad i took your post the wrong way bro!

 

[FourthSmokage]

Rock Lee is a genius, Gai even said so. You don't have to be smart overall to be a genius, you just need to be really really good at 1 thing. For Rock Lee, that's effort. He's a genius at putting effort in.

And I can't wait to see what all these years of training has made him able to accomplish. After Kimmimaro, we haven't really gotten to see Lee fight much besides filler.

 

[~Sky~]

Like it or not, he wouldn't have realized any potential you say he has without all the work he did.

 

[KingHashirama]

Rock Lee is a genius, Gai even said so. You don't have to be smart overall to be a genius, you just need to be really really good at 1 thing. For Rock Lee, that's effort. He's a genius at putting effort in.

And I can't wait to see what all these years of training has made him able to accomplish. After Kimmimaro, we haven't really gotten to see Lee fight much besides filler.

Just to add on. Kakashi, "the genius", acknowledged Rock Lee as a true genius, not a genius of puttin in effort (because every genius does that), but a pure genius with gifted ability.

Like it or not, he wouldn't have realized any potential you say he has without all the work he did.

Same for the following:

-Hashirama
-Naruto
-Sasuke
-Neji
-Madara
-Tobirama
-Minato
-Hiruzen

Shall i keep on going?

 

[Colonel Armstrong]

he is a genius at hard work

 

[Chibiusa]

he is a genius at hard work

Ah, yes. That was stated

 

[KingHashirama]

Ah, yes. That was stated

"its not about the hard work, this kid is a genius" - Hatake Kakashi, so that wasn't stated?

 

[WhiteMangekyou]

Rock Lee is included in the manga (as is Gai) to show that when an ninja works hard he/she can become very strong and surpass his/her own limits. Kakashi is included for lots of reason, but one is to show how strong one can become on natural talent, in contrast to Gai and Lee. At least thats the way I see it.

Also it took Dai 20 years to learn because he
a) was never shown to work as hard as lee, for all we know he could've tried to learn the technique sitting in a chair for 20 years
b) so bad he was branded as gennin for life, that's worse then lee, their naturally incapability is not even on the same level

 

[Chibiusa]

"its not about the hard work, this kid is a genius" - Hatake Kakashi, so that wasn't stated?

If you wanna get technical, just because a character said it doesn't mean it is true. That was Kakashi stating his opinion

 

[The8thGateBeast]

Stop rustling jimmies.

 

[paratise]

It's not a confirmation, it is interpretation.

Like it or not, Lee have been portraytad as a hardworker more than anyone, and It's odd someone who uses portrayal logic for everything blatantly stating othervise. Yes he worked harder than Neji, Sasuke, Madara and your precious Hashirama, manga even states that he worked atleast 2-3 times harder than Neji herp.

 

[~Sky~]

Same for the following:

-Hashirama
-Naruto
-Sasuke
-Neji
-Madara
-Tobirama
-Minato
-Hiruzen

Shall i keep on going?

Don't see what point you're trying to make with this. Lee's obviously worked harder than most if not all of those people.

Your interpretation is useless anyways, no one's been portrayed as a harder worker than Lee except Gai, Kishimoto said so himself.

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[Murasame]

It's not a confirmation, it is interpretation.

Like it or not, Lee have been portraytad as a hardworker more than anyone, and It's odd someone who uses portrayal logic for everything blatantly stating othervise. Yes he worked harder than Neji, Sasuke, Madara and your precious Hashirama, manga even states that he worked atleast 2-3 times harder than Neji herp.

His portrayal logic is only true when he uses it apparently Lol Anyways I agree with what's said here. ^

 

[KingHashirama]

If you wanna get technical, just because a character said it doesn't mean it is true. That was Kakashi stating his opinion

Yes but what gai said is fact right?

 

[Conspirator.]

Lee is a genius as Kakashi said. But he had to work hard to harness all that latent potential he had...

 

[awesomeseimei]

Now guys, have you even read the entire OP? Yes, Lee is a hard-worker, and yes, he also has a talent for taijutsu, and there is nothing wrong with it. In real-life it's the same - if you don't have aptitude for something it will take a really long time to master that skill, I know it because I myself might just be the most untalented loser on our planet. The only reason I can sort of draw is that I've been doing it since being a small child. But I know other amateur artists who can draw a lot better after less work, or who are younger than I am.

Point is, with the same amounts of hard work people with different aptitudes will achieve different results. And yes, Lee has an aptitude for taijutsu and hard work itself - I daresay most other people would break down and quit if they had training like him.