Confirmed Obito has PS

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and you've yet to counter Itachi-Sasuke

sasuke's eyes isnt a manifestation of itachi's chakra. sasuke always had ms techs. sasuke physically has his eyes. it even transformed into an ems showing that its no longer itachi's ms.

kakashi has obito's ms, which is made of obito's chakra.

so is danzo's ka not shishui's ka? is that now danzo's own power?

itachi's eyes transformed. danzo's and kakashi's did not
 

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Nope, It's Kakashi's PS. Until obito uses PS he doesn't have PS.

Unless, we're saying Itachi has PS also since Sasuke's using his eyes Lol
 

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sasuke's eyes isnt a manifestation of itachi's chakra. sasuke always had ms techs. sasuke physically has his eyes. it even transformed into an ems showing that its no longer itachi's ms.

kakashi has obito's ms, which is made of obito's chakra.

so is danzo's ka not shishui's ka? is that now danzo's own power?


itachi's eyes transformed. danzo's and kakashi's did not

The way I see it is that Obito's eyes are like keys. Kakashi unlocked PS with Obito's Eyes, but its impossible to know if Obito could have done it as well.
 

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Nope, It's Kakashi's PS. Until obito uses PS he doesn't have PS.

Unless, we're saying Itachi has PS also since Sasuke's using his eyes Lol

i've already countered that.

itachi's eye tranfromed into ems showing that it is no longer his ms.

is danzo's ka(shishui's eye) his own power? no he is using shishui's power.

when kakashi had 1 kamui was that his own power? no he was using obito's.

but kakashi pulls out a susanno and its different right Lol
 

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The way I see it is that Obito's eyes are like keys. Kakashi unlocked PS with Obito's Eyes, but its impossible to know if Obito could have done it as well.

obito didnt have kamui snipe but when he got his eyes back he did it.

thats like saying shishui cant do anything that danzo did with his eye. its there eyes and anything someone does with there eye is transferred back to them i.e obito doing kamui snipe even though he never did.
 

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i've already countered that.

itachi's eye tranfromed into ems showing that it is no longer his ms.

is danzo's ka(shishui's eye) his own power? no he is using shishui's power.

when kakashi had 1 kamui was that his own power? no he was using obito's.

but kakashi pulls out a susanno and its different right Lol

The facts are that Obito doesn't have the feat cause he has never FEATured using it. Lets take Naruto and Kurama, it was Kurama's chakra that allowed Naruto to enter BM, but the things that Naruto in BM are his own feats.
 

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obito doens't have ps
kakashi has ps why tf can't you guys accept that kakashi > all?
Because Obito told him that he was going to give him his Susanoo in this chapter.

Did you just skipped that part, or did you blandly ignore that part?
 

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The facts are that Obito doesn't have the feat cause he has never FEATured using it. Lets take Naruto and Kurama, it was Kurama's chakra that allowed Naruto to enter BM, but the things that Naruto in BM are his own feats.

those feats are general bm feats. anything that wasnt specific to him (rasengan) are BM feats and something you can only do with bm. for example chakra arms are BM feat
 

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Then why does it have that scar, the eyes only enable Kakashi to use Susanoo ,but that specific Susanoo is his.

Its like saying Izuna had PS, because Madara used it with his eyes.

The scar is meanging less until you read the chapter.

Why would you weigh pictures and features over the context of the manga?

You can't awaken Susanoo unless you are of uchiha chakra, that's why Obito have his soul/chakra to Kakashi for the time being.

Otherwise Danzo would be sporting Susanoo by now
 

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those feats are general bm feats. anything that wasnt specific to him (rasengan) are BM feats and something you can only do with bm. for example chakra arms are BM feat

Lets take Chakra arms for example, Its Kurama's power ,but we don't know if Kurama can use chakra arms.

I'm not denying the possibility of Obito having PS, but we can't call it a feat or fact since you've never seen him do it or its questionable if he can even do it.
 

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i've already countered that.

itachi's eye tranfromed into ems showing that it is no longer his ms.

is danzo's ka(shishui's eye) his own power? no he is using shishui's power.

when kakashi had 1 kamui was that his own power? no he was using obito's.

but kakashi pulls out a susanno and its different right Lol

Itachi's eyes didn't transform into EMS. Sasuke's eyes did because he was powered by Itachi's chakra.

Kakashi's normal eyes + Obito's MS = Combined eyes. Since kakashi's eyes are just normal crap, it looks like Obito's eyes.
Sasuke's MS eyes + Itachi's MS eyes = Combined eyes. Since they both have MS, the eye looks like a combination of both.

Itachi has PS and Enton bruh. GG.
 

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Lets take Chakra arms for example, Its Kurama's power ,but we don't know if Kurama can use chakra arms.

I'm not denying the possibility of Obito having PS, but we can't call it a feat or fact since you've never seen him do it or its questionable if he can even do it.

bijuus dont use chakra arms. all the jins with a chakra cloak has tho.

your trying to argue that obito hasnt shown something so we cant say that he has it. so we can say that how ever naruto and sauce seals kaguya, the sage cant do it the same way?
 

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anyone with a fking brain would know that. the fact is Obito's double MS can awaken susanoo. The moment Obito leaves kakashi's body, kakashi will go back to normal...no MS, no Susanoo.
 

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bijuus dont use chakra arms. all the jins with a chakra cloak has tho.

your trying to argue that obito hasnt shown something so we cant say that he has it. so we can say that how ever naruto and sauce seals kaguya, the sage cant do it the same way?

If Naruto and Sasuke seal Kaguya its their feats with Hagormos power, but we can't be sure that Hagoromo is powerful enough to seal Kaguya.
 

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Itachi's eyes didn't transform into EMS. Sasuke's eyes did because he was powered by Itachi's chakra.

Kakashi's normal eyes + Obito's MS = Combined eyes. Since kakashi's eyes are just normal crap, it looks like Obito's eyes.
Sasuke's MS eyes + Itachi's MS eyes = Combined eyes. Since they both have MS, the eye looks like a combination of both.

Itachi has PS and Enton bruh. GG.

how could sasuke's eyes transform into ems when his eyes were taken out . . . .flawed logic. its not itachi's ms anymore because after it was put in sasuke it became a ems.

again when kakashi had one ms was that not obito's power?
when danzo had shishui's eye was that not shishui's power?

were danzo and kakashi using there own power? no they were using shishui's/obito's power. and everything kakashi did when obito got his ms back he did the samething showing that anything done with someone's eye(if given back" the original owner can do the same.
 

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anyone with a fking brain would know that. the fact is Obito's double MS can awaken susanoo. The moment Obito leaves kakashi's body, kakashi will go back to normal...no MS, no Susanoo.

Yeah, I agree.

,but i were arguing if Obito by himself could use PS
 

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If Naruto and Sasuke seal Kaguya its their feats with Hagormos power, but we can't be sure that Hagoromo is powerful enough to seal Kaguya.

the question was are you saying that he cant seal kaguya the sae way sauce and noodles are going to, not if he was powerful enough to seal her Lol

but im sure this is as far as were going to get.
 

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how could sasuke's eyes transform into ems when his eyes were taken out . . . .flawed logic. its not itachi's ms anymore because after it was put in sasuke it became a ems.

again when kakashi had one ms was that not obito's power?
when danzo had shishui's eye was that not shishui's power?


were danzo and kakashi using there own power? no they were using shishui's/obito's power. and everything kakashi did when obito got his ms back he did the samething showing that anything done with someone's eye(if given back" the original owner can do the same.

Scan saying Sasuke's eyes were taken out?

So, basically, you're saying that If you transplant someone's eye into your socket, it's still the other persons ability. But you also want to say that even though sasuke transplanted itachi's eye into his socket, it's not Itachi's ability? Sounds like legit Bias.
 
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