[Confirmed] Naruto was always stronger than Sasuke.

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1. He has his own goals, that stemmed from his past and instead of following the cliche "Everybody buddy buddy", he actually recognized his own short-comings and weaknesses in himself in order to fulfil his purpose. He suffered from an inferoruty and superioruty complex all at once and demostrated the dynamics of how losing the emotion of love can trigger those to make drastic and stuff choices, choices that people everyday succumb to.

2. The only person who manipulated him was Itachi. He used both Obito and Oro to gain power and achieve his goals. If he was manipulated by Oro, he would have never taken him out. If he was manipulated by Obito he would have never asked Danzo and Itachi whether the truth about the Uchiha Massacre was true AND he would of listened to the Zetsu's when he got his eyes transplanted and helped Obito in his plans.................. he never did that did he So much for being manipulated. He has always had his own goals and has used whoever he can to achieve them. He is someone that does whatever it takes to achieve ones goals, even if he has to do things he's not proud of.

3. His character is extremely complex and dynamic, but why should I expect you to agree or understand that? You just said all he does is change his mind? You mean like when he completed his goal Killing Itachi? What is supposed to do? Keep killing a dead man? Or how about when he said he would burn down the village, he only changed his mind AFTER speaking with Itachi, Kages and Hagaromo and EVEN THEN, his thinking was still the same because instead of just burning down the village, he was gonna burn down the entire Shinobi system that had plagued EVERYONE. But please, tell me of these many times he changed his mind? I wanna read these.....

Best character of the show bar none..... there's a reason you made a thread about him....... again.
Ok kid I'll play. First I didnt make this thread Rollace did.

Second he was manipulated by Oro. After he was given the CS and gaining that power he went to Oro. Also the sound 4 who were sent by Oro helped manipulate him.

He "used" them to help further his goals but was still manipulated by them. Remember his turn to darkness was only started by Oro and furthered by Obito telling him the truth.

What makes him complex and dynamic? The fact that he is different from Naruto. Every body is complex. Sakura, Ino, Sai, Jugo.

The reason people seem to like him is either because they somehow put themselves in his shoes , or are just in love with him.

So youre telling me if someone killed your family , you'd leave your hometown to get stronger so you can get revenge? Then after you "kill him"(itachi died naturally ) and find out the truth you'd try to kill youre hometown. The whole hometown because of 3 people?


He was going to try to kill a whole village because of what 3 people did
 

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1. He has his own goals, that stemmed from his past and instead of following the cliche "Everybody buddy buddy", he actually recognized his own short-comings and weaknesses in himself in order to fulfil his purpose. He suffered from an inferoruty and superioruty complex all at once and demostrated the dynamics of how losing the emotion of love can trigger those to make drastic and stuff choices, choices that people everyday succumb to.

2. The only person who manipulated him was Itachi. He used both Obito and Oro to gain power and achieve his goals. If he was manipulated by Oro, he would have never taken him out. If he was manipulated by Obito he would have never asked Danzo and Itachi whether the truth about the Uchiha Massacre was true AND he would of listened to the Zetsu's when he got his eyes transplanted and helped Obito in his plans.................. he never did that did he So much for being manipulated. He has always had his own goals and has used whoever he can to achieve them. He is someone that does whatever it takes to achieve ones goals, even if he has to do things he's not proud of.

3. His character is extremely complex and dynamic, but why should I expect you to agree or understand that? You just said all he does is change his mind? You mean like when he completed his goal Killing Itachi? What is supposed to do? Keep killing a dead man? Or how about when he said he would burn down the village, he only changed his mind AFTER speaking with Itachi, Kages and Hagaromo and EVEN THEN, his thinking was still the same because instead of just burning down the village, he was gonna burn down the entire Shinobi system that had plagued EVERYONE. But please, tell me of these many times he changed his mind? I wanna read these.....

Best character of the show bar none..... there's a reason you made a thread about him....... again.
I have to say I have read many of your posts. But this one has to be by far the best one. Very well written with complete understanding of the character you support. I enjoyed reading it. Showing your passion with every bit of text.
 

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Lol your telling me that sasuke could solo all six paths with speedblitz? Keep dreaming, shunshin is like an academy level tech Naruto has probably knew it since forever
It's user who makes good use of the technique, you can't compare Kakashi's shadow clone technique with Naruto's since Naruto is more advanced with it he basically mastered it. The same can be said for Sasuke with shunshin.
 

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He always was inferior to Naruto. His own words "i was behind you" confirms it.
thats why he beat him at vote, stomped him later on in early shippuden alongside 3 others right? that scene even had naruto crying about how weak he was hence he began training so he could catch up to sasuke. gtfo clown. any intelligent person would know what sasuke was truly talking about.
 
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Ok. It seems legit.

Only reason why Hebi Sasuke was portrayed more stronger than Naruto was fact that he was weak and low on Chakra after Kyuubi rampage

SM>MS with high diff. I can prove it.
Nope Hebi>>Naruto. Blitzes easy. Kyuubi gets suppressed via genjutsu, Nagashi paralyzes, senbon shut down chakra.

It's not even a fair comparison :coffee:
 

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It's user who makes good use of the technique, you can't compare Kakashi's shadow clone technique with Naruto's since Naruto is more advanced with it he basically mastered it. The same can be said for Sasuke with shunshin.
Naruto is pretty efficient with shunshin, he went from all the way from the hokage office to the hokage monument with shunshin in seconds. Naruto also has sensing in sm so theres no way sasuke is blitzing naruto in ms
 

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thats why he beat him at vote, stomped him later on in early shippuden alongside 3 others right? that scene even had naruto crying about how weak he was hence he began training so he could catch up to sasuke. gtfo clown. any intelligent person would know what sasuke was truly talking about.
Are you seriously denying Manga fact.. And can you please tell me what Sasuke was truly talking about?
 

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1. He has his own goals, that stemmed from his past and instead of following the cliche "Everybody buddy buddy", he actually recognized his own short-comings and weaknesses in himself in order to fulfil his purpose. He suffered from an inferoruty and superioruty complex all at once and demostrated the dynamics of how losing the emotion of love can trigger those to make drastic and stuff choices, choices that people everyday succumb to.

2. The only person who manipulated him was Itachi. He used both Obito and Oro to gain power and achieve his goals. If he was manipulated by Oro, he would have never taken him out. If he was manipulated by Obito he would have never asked Danzo and Itachi whether the truth about the Uchiha Massacre was true AND he would of listened to the Zetsu's when he got his eyes transplanted and helped Obito in his plans.................. he never did that did he So much for being manipulated. He has always had his own goals and has used whoever he can to achieve them. He is someone that does whatever it takes to achieve ones goals, even if he has to do things he's not proud of.

3. His character is extremely complex and dynamic, but why should I expect you to agree or understand that? You just said all he does is change his mind? You mean like when he completed his goal Killing Itachi? What is supposed to do? Keep killing a dead man? Or how about when he said he would burn down the village, he only changed his mind AFTER speaking with Itachi, Kages and Hagaromo and EVEN THEN, his thinking was still the same because instead of just burning down the village, he was gonna burn down the entire Shinobi system that had plagued EVERYONE. But please, tell me of these many times he changed his mind? I wanna read these.....

Best character of the show bar none..... there's a reason you made a thread about him....... again.
this post is beautiful.
 

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Ok kid I'll play. First I didnt make this thread Rollace did.

Second he was manipulated by Oro. After he was given the CS and gaining that power he went to Oro. Also the sound 4 who were sent by Oro helped manipulate him.

He "used" them to help further his goals but was still manipulated by them. Remember his turn to darkness was only started by Oro and furthered by Obito telling him the truth.

What makes him complex and dynamic? The fact that he is different from Naruto. Every body is complex. Sakura, Ino, Sai, Jugo.

The reason people seem to like him is either because they somehow put themselves in his shoes , or are just in love with him.

So youre telling me if someone killed your family , you'd leave your hometown to get stronger so you can get revenge? Then after you "kill him"(itachi died naturally ) and find out the truth you'd try to kill youre hometown. The whole hometown because of 3 people?


He was going to try to kill a whole village because of what 3 people did
I'll answer this quickly;

1. No, you made these threads;






Sasuke Sasuke Sasuke Sasuke Sasuke....... Oh let me guess, Fanboys made you do it.....

He was NEVER manipulated by Oro. He only decided to go to Oro when he realised how weak and how little he had come in terms of beating Itachi and completing his life goal. He saw himself as pathetic and useless when he found out that the person he has been striving to beat showed very little interest in him when he came to village. Oro was just another power-source for Sasuke. He saw the chance to get stronger and took it and let Oro believe that he woud eventually take his body................. and we saw how that worked out......

Turn to darkness? Oro had no influence on Sasuke's turn to darkness. He still refused to kill innocent people while he was with Oro AND he even chastised and lambasted Oro's work and how he conducted himself when Sasuke took him out. Where is the supposed manipulation?
Obito? I just explained that if Obito had manipulated him, he would have never questioned Danzo and Itachi about the truth of the story. He would have followed all of Obito's commands and wishes but............. that didn't happen did it? What did happened when Sasuke gained his EMS?

What makes him a complex and dynamic character is the way he presented and shown. The way his thinking and emotions seem to always coincide with each other. The way that his personality that he exposes everyone to is just a shell of who he truly is. The way his emotions are a stark contrast to the way he presented himself and his attitude and own self-evaluation of himself, something no other character in the Manga even comes close to. (Oro, Kabuto(don't like him that much), Itachi, Gaara, Neji, Madara, Obito(to an extent) all show signs of this, but none of them are on the level of Sasuke in that sense.

Really? Those are the only reason people like him? Why am I wasting time even discussing this with you then?

Are you serious? If I went through half the stuff Sasuke went through, I probably wouldn't be breathing right now. I ain't that strong to handle that amount of crap. The kid is 17.
 
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Naruto is pretty efficient with shunshin, he went from all the way from the hokage office to the hokage monument with shunshin in seconds. Naruto also has sensing in sm so theres no way sasuke is blitzing naruto in ms
No chapter 700 feats. Sasuke was able to hang with the Hokage when they all used shunshin to get to the battlefield. What is Naruto in chapter 700? Sasuke was Kage level with Shunshin before Naruto was.

Naruto has gotten a lot faster though but without Kurama Sasuke blitzes.
 
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thats why he beat him at vote
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stomped him later on in early shippuden alongside 3 others right? that scene even had naruto crying about how weak he was.
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... It was only one reason why Naruyto said that he was weak
gtfo clown. any intelligent person would know what sasuke was truly talking about.
You must improve your comprehension skills, noob. For character like Sasuke make more sense admit that someone better than him in terms of power than in anything else.
Nope Hebi>>Naruto.

Blitzes easy.
Even 1 tail form= 3 tomoe sharingan+CM Sasuke

Kyuubi gets suppressed via genjutsu
You mean "solo glance" ? Sasuke not enough fast to supressed Kyuubi chakra

Nagashi paralyzes, senbon shut down chakra.
Even 1 tail cloak enough to deal with tenpenchii.
It's not even a fair comparison :coffee:
 
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1. He has his own goals, that stemmed from his past and instead of following the cliche "Everybody buddy buddy", he actually recognized his own short-comings and weaknesses in himself in order to fulfil his purpose. He suffered from an inferoruty and superioruty complex all at once and demostrated the dynamics of how losing the emotion of love can trigger those to make drastic and stuff choices, choices that people everyday succumb to.

2. The only person who manipulated him was Itachi. He used both Obito and Oro to gain power and achieve his goals. If he was manipulated by Oro, he would have never taken him out. If he was manipulated by Obito he would have never asked Danzo and Itachi whether the truth about the Uchiha Massacre was true AND he would of listened to the Zetsu's when he got his eyes transplanted and helped Obito in his plans.................. he never did that did he So much for being manipulated. He has always had his own goals and has used whoever he can to achieve them. He is someone that does whatever it takes to achieve ones goals, even if he has to do things he's not proud of.

3. His character is extremely complex and dynamic, but why should I expect you to agree or understand that? You just said all he does is change his mind? You mean like when he completed his goal Killing Itachi? What is supposed to do? Keep killing a dead man? Or how about when he said he would burn down the village, he only changed his mind AFTER speaking with Itachi, Kages and Hagaromo and EVEN THEN, his thinking was still the same because instead of just burning down the village, he was gonna burn down the entire Shinobi system that had plagued EVERYONE. But please, tell me of these many times he changed his mind? I wanna read these.....

Best character of the show bar none..... there's a reason you made a thread about him....... again.
quoted for the truth.
 

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Plot restricted bunta summoning on Sasuke's head
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... It was only one reason why Naruyto said that he was weak


You must improve your comprehension skills, noob. For character like Sasuke make more sense admit that someone better than him in terms of power than in anything else.
Do u realize u have given me like my first dislike ever. Lol Well u must have had a good reason, so explain to me how early shipuuden Naruto takes Hebi Sasuke.
 

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Plot restricted bunta summoning on Sasuke's head
Should I posted these scans again ?

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... It was only one reason why Naruyto said that he was weak

You must improve your comprehension skills, noob. For character like Sasuke make more sense admit that someone better than him in terms of power than in anything else.




Even 1 tail form= 3 tomoe sharingan+CM Sasuke


You mean "solo glance" ? Sasuke not enough fast to supressed Kyuubi chakra

Even 1 tail cloak enough to deal with tenpenchii.
It's not even a fair comparison :coffee:
Genjutsu is actually pretty quick. It nerfs Naruto instantly. Everything else is like a cat (Saauke) playing with a mouse. I don't know how u get the idea that genjutsu takes considerable time :|
 
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=Spacey orange;17931548]Plot restricted bunta summoning on Sasuke's head
and weres the proof bunta would listen to naruto when hes opponent is a mere kid? what makes you think he would get involved in kids fight? sasuke beat that ass fair and square, am not interested in your excuses.

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... It was only one reason why Naruyto said that he was weak
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naruto was blized, him being fully healthy would have made zero difference esp when he cant keep up with sasukes shunshin. if sasuke had brought out his sword before he moved naruto would have been struck dead with that bliz but fortunately for him sasuke wanted to question him first. dont kid yourself, naruto was miles below sasuke at that point heck sasuke even suppressed the chakra of the entity that gives him power which is kishis way of showing that sasuke was in another class. your excuse doesnt hold water.

You must improve your comprehension skills, noob. For character like Sasuke make more sense admit that someone better than him in terms of power than in anything else.
he said naruto walked in front of him just like hes brother, the type of strength to keep going was what he admired in him pleb. not to mention what sasuke there, naruto has said the same to him a lot before, saying how he always wanted to be like sasuke and catch up to him, so even your own logic works against you.
 
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