Conclusion about those who read naruto

[chopstickchakra]

Okay I'll accept your points about hinata and sasuke and thanks for actually answering me with arguments, you'll get rep for that. Nonetheless, what you say about Kurama's chakra doesn't make any sense because Minato had died. Unless, he could practice charka control in the other world.

Why thank you, and I kinda agree on Minato. I don't see how(unless Kishi makes it so) Minato used RDS differently than Hiruzen. Hiruzen took Oros arms and everyone agrees his arms were sealed within the RDS Shinigami. Then Minato seals half of Kurama via RDS and everybody assumes he put Kurama in his own body when it should go to the RDS Shinigami.

If Kurama is in Minato then Oros arms should have been in Hiruzen.

 

[Byron123]

Consider the fact that 75% of the Base are under the age of 15. Kids don't care about that stuff

I don't know, in narutobase I have found some very complicated theories and maybe that is what gave me th wrong impression. Maybe indeed I was asking for too much in which case I'm sorry. I'll become 17 in months btw=D

 

[Byron123]

Why thank you, and I kinda agree on Minato. I don't see how(unless Kishi makes it so) Minato used RDS differently than Hiruzen. Hiruzen took Oros arms and everyone agrees his arms were sealed within the RDS Shinigami. Then Minato seals half of Kurama via RDS and everybody assumes he put Kurama in his own body when it should go to the RDS Shinigami.

If Kurama is in Minato then Oros arms should have been in Hiruzen.

Lol okay but that would have been funny=D. In any case, I just thought that Minato would only give the other half chakra to Naruto and if we want to be completely correct, Minato's trasformation has another probelm. Yang chakra which is sealed inside Minato is kurama's body and therefore his transformation should have been a trasnformation into Kurama's body. Here it is as if Kurama has 2 yang chakras and no YinXD

 

[Uzumakisan]

Okay I'll accept your points about hinata and sasuke and thanks for actually answering me with arguments, you'll get rep for that. Nonetheless, what you say about Kurama's chakra doesn't make any sense because Minato died. immediately after getting its half chakra. Unless, he could practice charka control in the other world.

There could be many explanations... We don't know yet how the Half-Kyuubis affect each other.

1) There is the possibility that both share the same mind. So there is no "second Kyuubi".
2) We already know that Bijuus can talk to each other through telepathy... both Kyuubi could agree with each other on helping Naruto/Minato.
3) Also we can totally agree that Minato could win against the Kyuubi inside of his mind and take it's chakra. He created the seal, so this gives him an advantage on how o use it. Also his abilities are really good and he had previous knowledge on fighting the Kyuubi.

 

[Byron123]

There could be many explanations... We don't know yet how the Half-Kyuubis affect each other.

1) There is the possibility that both share the same mind. So there is no "second Kyuubi".
2) We already know that Bijuus can talk to each other through telepathy... both Kyuubi could agree with each other on helping Naruto/Minato.
3) Also we can totally agree that Minato could win against the Kyuubi inside of his mind and take it's chakra. He created the seal, so this gives him an advantage on how o use it. Also his abilities are really good and he had previous knowledge on fighting the Kyuubi.

Even if it's like that, this still doesn't explain how Minato's trasformation is identical to Naruto's. Considering that Naruto has Kurama's Yang chakra and Minato's Yin, Minato instead of having a cloak exaclty like naruto, he should have been able to replicate Kurama's body in flesh and blood.

 

[Naru2GT]

There's nothing wrong with being fanboys.

Sasuke doesn't really care what the people think of him NOW, because of his history and what he did. He knows people won't listen to him.

As far as Minato, If he created these uber seals on the Kyuubi, created a key to unlock or tap into Kyuubi's chakra (from the previous chapter) for Naruto to access and all the other things, I don't see why he can't manage to control kyuubi's power.

 

[Byron123]

There's nothing wrong with being fanboys.

Sasuke doesn't really care what the people think of him NOW, because of his history and what he did. He knows people won't listen to him.

As far as Minato, If he created these uber seals on the Kyuubi, created a key to unlock or tap into Kyuubi's chakra (from the previous chapter) for Naruto to access and all the other things, I don't see why he can't manage to control kyuubi's power.

Read my previous answer in the thread and you'll understand why.

 

[hearteaterx]

Chapter 631 helped me to realise something. Most of the people who read Naruto don't seek for qualtiy. They are just fanboys who just want to see their heroes getting power- ups, that's all. In the whole history of the manga this is the worst chapter ever! How the hell Sasuke comes in and says I will become hokage without giving a shit about others' opinions?How Minato managed to control nine tails power like that without previous experience?After all Hinata did to snap Naruto out of the situation, when Naruto was asked by his father he answered that Sakura is his gf without even thinking Hinata for a second while she had made a confess to him?
But despite all that, the large majority loved this chapter giving it a 5/5 whereas flashbacks which actually had more depth weren't considered important at all. You're just happy because you're fanboys and you either want to see your powerful Sasuke, Minato or Narusaku but the fact is that this chapter doesn't make any sense at all.

Naruto was a baby when he received the 9 tails chakra, of course he has to go through the process of growing up and becoming a shinobi to advance far enough to control it- hence the length of time. Minato was already much older than Naruto and arguably the most skilled shinobi, it's 'logical' that he can control the 9 tails as well.

Naruto wanted to look cool to his dad. Naruto isn't going to look cool to anyone if he says he's dating Hinata... and Naruto never acknowledges Hinata so no big deal.


And yeah, the chapter gets a 5/5 thanks to Sasuke's presence. From the shocking 'L-O-L' explanation Sasuke gives to his peers explaining why he's there, to the way Sasuke's presence inspired Sakura to finally show off for once, it's pretty clear we're only still here to see what Sasuke does next.

The best part of the chapter? No Obito/Kakashi bullshit that noone cares about.

 

[Uzumakisan]

Even if it's like that, this still doesn't explain how Minato's trasformation is identical to Naruto's. Considering that Naruto has Kurama's Yang chakra and Minato's Yin, Minato instead of having a cloak exaclty like naruto, he should have been able to replicate Kurama's body in flesh and blood.

That's just fan's speculation based on Yin Yang chakra... the kyuubi already said this chapter (between the lines) that this transformation is because of Minato's such complex seal...

Also, if this specultion on Yin Yang chakra was true... Naruto would never be able to transform on Kyuubi like he did against Pain...

 

[hisou]

What are you talking about? The OP has made some entirely valid points and I saw no one of the blind fanboys refute any of them.
So if you have done that research of yours show us the results!

Chapter 631 helped me to realise something. Most of the people who read Naruto don't seek for qualtiy. They are just fanboys who just want to see their heroes getting power- ups, that's all. In the whole history of the manga this is the worst chapter ever! How the hell Sasuke comes in and says I will become hokage without giving a shit about others' opinions?How Minato managed to control nine tails power like that without previous experience?After all Hinata did to snap Naruto out of the situation, when Naruto was asked by his father he answered that Sakura is his gf without even thinking Hinata for a second while she had made a confess to him?
But despite all that, the large majority loved this chapter giving it a 5/5 whereas flashbacks which actually had more depth weren't considered important at all. You're just happy because you're fanboys and you either want to see your powerful Sasuke, Minato or Narusaku but the fact is that this chapter doesn't make any sense at all.

"How the hell Sasuke comes in and says I will become hokage without giving a shit about others' opinions?"

Spoiler

Remember,when Hashirama told Madara that he should become Hokage,but due to Tobirama's words,Madara gave up hope of becoming Hokage and left the village.,when he could have done something to earn peoples' trust.

Now the same situation is here again,with Naruto and Sasuke.Nobody trust Sasuke,but as Kishimoto is trying to portray him,it's that he is exactly like Naruto,darker side until now.Once he gets on something he just don't stop untill it's done.

So what I think is that in this war he'll earn the trust of the people,mainly in future,and people's anger against him will be down when they'll learn the truth about Itachi.

After the war this will also create a damn good situation for a all out friendly battle against each other for the title of HOKAGE..

And people who are saying that's it's bullshit [well after the spoiler I too was among them but not after the reason he gave in the chapter] should know that Kishi is trying to portray that changes are essential.
Also those who say what it leaves for nauto then,it will destroy his entire dream should go and read this thread,

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Well this mainly-

Spoiler

1. Sasuke wants to become Hokage!? BS! Makes no sense!

No, it makes perfect sense. Unlike Naruto, Sasuke has a real reason to want to become Hokage. Naruto wanted to achieve that title because everyone looked down on him. However, now that everyone hails him as the savior of the village, why should he become Hokage? Because he "wants" to?

Naruto has already been acknowledged by everyone, so there isn't a definitive reason for him to become Hokage. That's why some people have predicted he won't become Hokage; they just don't see the point.

Sasuke, on the other hand, is justified in his reasoning. He believes the previous Hokages have made a mess of things, and has decided that instead of trying to destroy the village, he wants to fix it and guide it into a better future.

"How Minato managed to control nine tails power like that without previous experience?"

Spoiler

this is a somewhat easy question. There are several possible answers.

1. The hype about deathgod is true, and the victims in its stomach are subject to fighting each other for eternity. While fighting minato got more skilled.

2. When seperate from kurama, the yin half of his chakra is just pure chakra, similar to the chakra pulled from kurama by naruto....Free from all the hatred and anger directly(since it is not connected to kurama)

3. Kuramas concsciousness was with his yin half as well, but minato was able to overcome all darkness in his heart(or maybe he never has any) and was able to do a tug of war with the yin half of kurama.

4. Minato was able to tame the yin half of kurama.(befriend it)

5. Minato used special fuuinjutsu to gain access to all the yin chakra without the hate, and is capable of beast mode with it(plausible)

"when Naruto was asked by his father he answered that Sakura is his gf without even thinking Hinata for a second while she had made a confess to him?"

Spoiler

The link between Naruto & Hinata looks a lot like that of Rin & Kakashi.
On the other hand, the relationship between Naruto & Sakura looks like Rin & Obito.

Of course, these aren't solid. Therefore i mentioned:

Thing is, almost everything you mention as "WTF is this.. & that & why... ?" can be perfectly explained by doing research on the web. Although, some require forecasting, for it to be explained properly and therefore making it doubtful.
Future episodes should enlighten us.

happy now? =D

 

[edo tensai wilmaso]

someones a baby cry ......gotta realize that it gets to a point where kunai's don't win battles anymore. and everything you said can be easily explained maybe if you thought about it instead of just finding the negative parts you might realize it.

minato just like the jin and kin bros had chakra in him from the 9 tails.....did you ***** about the kin and jin bro's having 9 tails chakra and using it's cloak oh but if minato does it it's a problem though.

sasuke said that he wants to be hokage because of what the previous hokage told him and because of their past actions....naruto is the only one who took him serious because he knows what his resolve is ....since part 1 they were always the same as far as intentions they were both positive ....but power corrupted sasuke but it made naruto a better person. sasuke's on the same page now but will never get acknowledged as naruto thinks about what itachi told him... basically sasuke just became naruto's bitach ...this is why i loved this chapter.

 

[TheWillofFire]

Didn't read all but here's a lot of reasons why this was an awesome chapter:

1. 4 Hokage's unite
2. Minato KM - badass (and he said sakura is his gf cuz he knows naruto likes sakura, doesn't need to consider hinata)
3. Next Hokage competition (Sasuke has a motive and that is what is driving him on his path, thinking to be Hokage is his "solution", he doesn't need to consider other's opinions to state his own resolve
4. Reunion - this is badass never thought we'd see a reunion like this

 

[Byron123]

"How the hell Sasuke comes in and says I will become hokage without giving a shit about others' opinions?"

"How Minato managed to control nine tails power like that without previous experience?"

"when Naruto was asked by his father he answered that Sakura is his gf without even thinking Hinata for a second while she had made a confess to him?"

Spoiler

The link between Naruto & Hinata looks a lot like that of Rin & Kakashi.
On the other hand, the relationship between Naruto & Sakura looks like Rin & Obito.

Of course, these aren't solid. Therefore i mentioned:



happy now? =D

I suppose.

 

[Byron123]

someones a baby cry ......gotta realize that it gets to a point where kunai's don't win battles anymore. and everything you said can be easily explained maybe if you thought about it instead of just finding the negative parts you might realize it.

minato just like the jin and kin bros had chakra in him from the 9 tails.....did you ***** about the kin and jin bro's having 9 tails chakra and using it's cloak oh but if minato does it it's a problem though.

sasuke said that he wants to be hokage because of what the previous hokage told him and because of their past actions....naruto is the only one who took him serious because he knows what his resolve is ....since part 1 they were always the same as far as intentions they were both positive ....but power corrupted sasuke but it made naruto a better person. sasuke's on the same page now but will never get acknowledged as naruto thinks about what itachi told him... basically sasuke just became naruto's bitach ...this is why i loved this chapter.

Minato had sealed inside of him Yin chakra while he had sealed Yang in naruto. Now considering that the Yang is the spiritual power, Naruto correctly has nine tails cloak. This also explains why he can't replicate Kurama's body in flesh and blood since he lacks Kurama's Yin chakra. However, Minato who has Yin and should have only been able to replicate Kurama's body can recreate a cloak identical to naruto's one. This one is a plot hole as this has as a conclusion that Kurama has 2 Yang chakra and none Yin which is impossible. However, I can tell with certainty that none of Minato's fans have paid attention to it and even if they did, they just don't care as long as their idol looks more bad*ss.

In any case I don't really care anymore. I realized that I overeacted and sounded like a paranoid

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

.... In every manga people want to see their favorite character get power-ups.

If you actually like a person in a book or REAL LIFE you want to see them get stronger/better/the best for themselves.

It's the same in DragonballZ. I remember when my friends who loved Vegeta as a kid hated that Goku had SSJ3 over Vegeta's SSJ2.

It's kind of natural, but the base just needs to enforce rules against bashing more. My favorite place to debate manga is here.

I've seen other forums where they have less bashing and whatnot and almost everyone uses actual logic in their arguments, but I've been a member here the longest. It hasn't changed since I made my account in 09'.

 

[Daishippy]

Minato had sealed inside of him Yin chakra while he had sealed Yang in naruto. Now considering that the Yang is the spiritual power, Naruto correctly has nine tails cloak. This also explains why he can't replicate Kurama's body in flesh and blood since he lacks Kurama's Yin chakra. However, Minato who has Yin and should have only been able to replicate Kurama's body can recreate a cloak identical to naruto's one. This one is a plot hole as this has as a conclusion that Kurama has 2 Yang chakra and none Yin which is impossible. However, I can tell with certainty that none of Minato's fans have paid attention to it and even if they did, they just don't care as long as their idol looks more bad*ss.

In any case I don't really care anymore. I realized that I overeacted and sounded like a paranoid

This is based on the theory that Naruto's cloak is the way it is due to yang chakra.
Which you did not prove, just assumed; therefore the rest of your statement is based on an assumption, not canon.
Just like the theory that Naruto's cloak is the way it is due to Minato's seal.
If the last theory was assumed true, then it would make sense that both Minato's and Naruto's cloak would look the same.

Since it is the case that Minato and Naruto share the same cloak in terms of looks, it gives canon evidence that the OP's theory is wrong and the new one mentioned here is true.
Just because the manga doesn't agree with your theory does not mean it is a "plot hole"

 

[Byron123]

This is based on the theory that Naruto's cloak is the way it is due to yang chakra.
Which you did not prove, just assumed; therefore the rest of your statement is based on an assumption, not canon.
Just like the theory that Naruto's cloak is the way it is due to Minato's seal.
If the last theory was assumed true, then it would make sense that both Minato's and Naruto's cloak would look the same.

Since it is the case that Minato and Naruto share the same cloak in terms of looks, it gives canon evidence that the OP's theory is wrong and the new one mentioned here is true.
Just because the manga doesn't agree with your theory does not mean it is a "plot hole"

Lol excuse me, I based my theory based on what it's true about Yin-Yang chakra in naruto's universe.
Yin chakra: body's power
Yang chakra: spirituel pwer
naruto exactly because he lacks Yin chakra, he only can recreate a chakra cloak in contrast to all the other jinjuriki who so far could recreate their tailed beasts' bodies.