Clearing up the FTG fallacies.

[Xāvî1]

Deidara was right. People just won't listen.(Edited from pain quote)

OT: You are right dude. But minato still has spacetime barrier which is something tombirama has not shown

the next generation always surpasses the previous one

 

[Gold Lightning]

I also think minato can teleport objects/people without touching them as long as they are near him.

Since he was able to teleport the kyuubi and tailed beast bomb while standing atop of gamabunta. No contact was made between the two, unless gamabunta was the link but then gamabunta should have been teleported too

 

[BlacLord™]

the next generation always surpasses the previous one

In morals. Oonoki pointed that out.

Think about it, biologically speaking, genes weaken by generation, just look at Tsunade in comparison to her grandfather or even her great uncle. If it meant in power, most shinobi would be at least Tobirama level by now, and the exceptional could roflstomp Hashirama, but this isn't the case.

Of course, I noted that in every generation, there are exceptions like The Senju Brothers, the Sannin and Naruto/Sasuke. Further evidence to support this was emphasised when the Alliance cowered upon seeing Hashirama and Madara fighting, noting "Is this how our ancestors used to fight?!"

 

[Penguin]

wrong, ftg of a clone is slower and that itself makes this thread invalid

You are a simpleton who does not read *********** or VIZ. It was clearly stated that "Hiraishin with a clone will not suffice" not "Herp Derp clones are slower".

 

[Sennin of Logic]

the next generation always surpasses the previous one

Not necessarily true. Is Tsunade>Hashirama? I think Minato>Tobirama, but that can't be the reason for it.

 

[thatgirl]

You are a simpleton who does not read *********** or VIZ. It was clearly stated that "Hiraishin with a clone will not suffice" not "Herp Derp clones are slower".

art thou a retard?

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[BlacLord™]

art thou a retard?

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No, but you are.

It didn't explicitly state the speed is slower, just that it is slower, which is more than likely referring to prep times. If it were any slower, Tobirama's clone wouldn't have been quick enough to hit Obito with his own orb.

 

[Touken]

No, but you are.

It didn't explicitly state the speed is slower, just that it is slower, which is more than likely referring to prep times. If it were any slower, Tobirama's clone wouldn't have been quick enough to hit Obito with his own orb.

Yes, yes! The truth has finally been brought to light.

Honestly, that statement has nothing to do with speed, I'm not even sure how people think that an instantaneous tech can be slower when using clones when speed has nothing to do with the tech.

 

[thatgirl]

No, but you are.

It didn't explicitly state the speed is slower, just that it is slower, which is more than likely referring to prep times. If it were any slower, Tobirama's clone wouldn't have been quick enough to hit Obito with his own orb.

tobirama's clone failed to hit obito despite the fact obito was marked before hand

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"did he block it?, fast"

the blacks orbs around obito formed a sphere and protected him from getting hit

and yet when the original used it

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and now please stop polluting the forums with your garbage

 

[KingHashirama]

Deidara was right. People just won't listen.(Edited from pain quote)

OT: You are right dude. But minato still has spacetime barrier which is something tombirama has not shown

Has not shown doesn't = doesn't have. There is nothing in manga that shows Tobirama didn't have space time barriers.

Also, he knows how to use the EDOs better. Not to mention he combined FTG and a sword together<< something Minato still hasn't done.

 

[Aya San]

Didn't Tobirama said Minato's was faster when they arrived at the battlefield?

 

[Touken]

Didn't Tobirama said Minato's was faster when they arrived at the battlefield?

Referring to Shunshin, not FTG.

 

[grizzlyshree]

Has not shown doesn't = doesn't have. There is nothing in manga that shows Tobirama didn't have space time barriers.

Also, he knows how to use the EDOs better. Not to mention he combined FTG and a sword together<< something Minato still hasn't done.

then what shows that Tobirama has space-time barrier? i wouldnt be surorised if he was the one who invented it. but what makes you think or assume that he has it?

 

[Touken]

then what shows that Tobirama has space-time barrier? i wouldnt be surorised if he was the one who invented it. but what makes you think or assume that he has it?

Not sure how but Tobirama was willing to teleport two Juubidamas.

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[H a n]

When it comes down to them.. It depends on who has the better reflexes.

 

[KingHashirama]

then what shows that Tobirama has space-time barrier? i wouldnt be surorised if he was the one who invented it. but what makes you think or assume that he has it?

The fact that he has FTg.. and It hasn't been stated that he can't use it. Space-time barrier is part of FTG..