[Spoilers] Clearing the confusion with Susano'o

[Dribbles]

In this thread, im just going to summarise exactly what susano'o is, and its upgrades. As you get the next upgrade of eyes, Susano'o gets an upgrade with it.

MS - When you get the Mangekyou Sharingan, you need to master both of your eye jutsu to unlock Susano'o. Once you have unlocked Susano'o, you can train it and master it to unlock your final MS Susano'o. EMS gives the next upgrade.

EMS - Once you get EMS, your Susano'o is combined with whoever you exchange eyes with, that means you can use the incomplete combined susano'o as well as the complete one. It is, however, impossible to stabilize it with these eyes. Brothers seem to have a matching pair of Susano'o since they are blood related.


Rinnegan - When you get the Rinnegan, you get the control to stabilize Susano'o, this now molds your Susano'o into its true form. It seems to even get more power with this upgrade if you look at Madara's Susano'o cutting through 5 mountains.. ._.

The reason Sasuke's Susano'o has a weird beak and just robes flying everywhere, is because he hasn't acquired the Rinnegan to stabilize it yet. Once he does stabilize it i see his Susano'o turning into an eagle. Yes im saying Sasuke's Susano'o will be flying around. The reason why Madara's susano'o is huge is because his MS susano'o and his brothers MS susano'o were a matching pair, as they were brothers the same with Itachi and Sasuke. Izuna's and Madara's susano'o were in the image of a giant warrior, thats why Sasuke and Itachi's is so tiny in comparison to Madara's.

I also believe the Rinnegan is 100% essential for the final fight between him and Naruto, as EMS is barely enough to do anything to Naruto at this stage.

Thanks for reading, ( if you did ) comment any arguments/agreements you have with this post, all are welcome.

 

[-Logic-]

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[Q of the Sharingan]

In this thread, im just going to summarise exactly what susano'o is, and its upgrades. As you get the next upgrade of eyes, Susano'o gets an upgrade with it.

MS - When you get the Mangekyou Sharingan, you need to master both of your eye jutsu to unlock Susano'o. Once you have unlocked Susano'o, you can train it and master it to unlock your final MS Susano'o. EMS gives the next upgrade.

EMS - Once you get EMS, your Susano'o is combined with whoever you exchange eyes with, that means you can use the incomplete combined susano'o as well as the complete one. It is, however, impossible to stabilize it with these eyes.

Rinnegan - When you get the Rinnegan, you get the control to stabilize Susano'o, this now molds your Susano'o into its true form.

The reason Sasuke's Susano'o has a weird beak and just robes flying everywhere, is because he hasn't acquired the Rinnegan to stabilize it yet. Once he does stabilize it i see his Susano'o turning into an eagle. Yes im saying Sasuke's Susano'o will be flying around. The reason why Madara's susano'o is huge is because his MS susano'o and his brothers MS susano'o were a matching pair, as they were brothers the same with Itachi and Sasuke. Izuna's and Madara's susano'o were in the image of a giant warrior, thats why Sasuke and Itachi's is so tiny.

I also believe the Rinnegan is 100% essential for the final fight between him and Naruto, as EMS is barely enough to do anything to Naruto at this stage.

Thanks for reading, ( if you did ) comment any arguments/agreements you have with this post, all are welcome.

When you say stabilize, do you mean that it can't become large like Madara's or that it doesn't get the samurai like armor in that huge state? Either way, it seems that Madara was able to use his perfect Susanoo with EMS since he was speaking like he used it against Hashi with his statement that landscape would change too much if they both fought.

 

[Uchiha boii]

EMS sasuke equals bijuu mode naruto with perfect sussano and that is a sharingan technique so why wouldnt ems be the requirement rinnegan has nothing to do with sussano and tsunade made it clear that hashi fought madaras perfect sussano which was ems madara we also havent seen sasuke go all out yet he must be stronger then what he showed us against those zetsu which is why ems is easily the requirement /thread

 

[shk1020]

Read my thread in my signature U_U

why was he banned? over 6,600 posts...just curious and surprised.


on topic:

EMS - Once you get EMS, your Susano'o is combined with whoever you exchange eyes with, that means you can use the incomplete combined susano'o as well as the complete one. It is, however, impossible to stabilize it with these eyes. Brothers seem to have a matching pair of Susano'o since they are blood related.

stabilize? it almost sounds like with EMS, you lose control over the susanoo - thus making it unreliable to use in a fight. and until you can unlock the rinnegan (which we know wont be easy - especially for sasuke) your EMS upgrade wouldnt be as useful. that is to say, the ultimate MS technique (susanoo) wouldnt be as powerful with EMS.

 

[NATRA]

Susano'o is a MS technique and i don't think that the rinnegan plays any role in it

 

[Uchicha Macho]

it so funny to see sasuke haters are so rebellious when they donot follow manga fact about the uchiha and sasuke

 

[dmac23]

actually madara never said that ems is what you need for the perfect susanoo nor rinnegan. it's still a mystery

 

[Zato]

How is this clearing up the confusion? All you did was made up what you believe how Susanoo works with no real facts. What we know about Susanoo is that you need both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi to obtain Susanoo and Susanoo levels are based on how much you raise your chakara levels. So far, Sasuke's Susanoo looks exactly the same as his original Susanoo before he gained the EMS. Even his final Susanoo looks exactly the same. Madara pretty much states that he has had perfect Susanoo before he even obtained the Rinnegan when Oonoki made the remark about how Madara toyed with him that long time ago. Madara has also made it somewhat clear that he didn't use the perfect Susanoo in his fight vs Hashirama because he states that when he uses it his enemies don't live to tell about it. We know that Hashirama did live after their battle.

 

[GsNp]

In this thread, im just going to summarise exactly what susano'o is, and its upgrades. As you get the next upgrade of eyes, Susano'o gets an upgrade with it.

MS - When you get the Mangekyou Sharingan, you need to master both of your eye jutsu to unlock Susano'o. Once you have unlocked Susano'o, you can train it and master it to unlock your final MS Susano'o. EMS gives the next upgrade.

EMS - Once you get EMS, your Susano'o is combined with whoever you exchange eyes with, that means you can use the incomplete combined susano'o as well as the complete one. It is, however, impossible to stabilize it with these eyes. Brothers seem to have a matching pair of Susano'o since they are blood related.


Rinnegan - When you get the Rinnegan, you get the control to stabilize Susano'o, this now molds your Susano'o into its true form. It seems to even get more power with this upgrade if you look at Madara's Susano'o cutting through 5 mountains.. ._.

The reason Sasuke's Susano'o has a weird beak and just robes flying everywhere, is because he hasn't acquired the Rinnegan to stabilize it yet. Once he does stabilize it i see his Susano'o turning into an eagle. Yes im saying Sasuke's Susano'o will be flying around. The reason why Madara's susano'o is huge is because his MS susano'o and his brothers MS susano'o were a matching pair, as they were brothers the same with Itachi and Sasuke. Izuna's and Madara's susano'o were in the image of a giant warrior, thats why Sasuke and Itachi's is so tiny in comparison to Madara's.

I also believe the Rinnegan is 100% essential for the final fight between him and Naruto, as EMS is barely enough to do anything to Naruto at this stage.

Thanks for reading, ( if you did ) comment any arguments/agreements you have with this post, all are welcome.

No. Just No. Your reasoning behind how MS works is completely wrong. And the manga clearly states you DO NOT NEED RINNEGAN for Complete Sussano'. Good day good sir.

 

[KidGamer65]

Why would anyone believe that any form of Susanoo would require Rinnegan, at the end of the day there is only one Susanoo with different forms whichi is a Mangekyo Sharingan technique.