Clearing the confusion Naruto+ Kurama > Sasuke + Itachi's eyes

[salamander uchiha]

Itachi eyes alone pawn Naruto + 9 tails + sage mode. It's those eyes that saved nardo from getting soul ripped by Nagato.

 

[YellowFang]

Yep, Naruto w/ Kurama > Sasuke w/ Transplants...

I disagree with the rest though,

 

[ANiMUS]

I honestly can't see why anyone still bothers with these stupid Naruto V Sasuke debates. By now you should have grown up and realized that this is all a waste of time.

Ppl who use the Itachi's argument are dumb because the don't get that Itachi has always. Sasuke's spare eyes in the first place. (that's why Kishimoto came up with the whole MS blindness thing)

Ppl who use the Kurama + Naruto argument are stupid because Naruto's whole schtick is friendship and cooperation. Naruto couldn't even breath without Kurama.

Just accept the characters as they since this is how the author intended them and stop with this petty nonsense.

 

[Jokule67]

Are you KingHashirama's Alt? Anyway all of this is besides the point that Naruto was more dependent. Why he was has nothing to do with the fact that he was.

You can't really compare them like that because Naruto more needed Kurama to fight than to live because Kurama was never going to escape anyway, there were already measures in place for That. Naruto was never scared of the fact that he would die from using the power he was just against using the power in general despite relying on it anyway.

Naruto controlling the kyuubi just made it easier for fans to say that it became apart of Naruto's power because prior to tht it was always referred to as Kurama's now and now it's referred to as Naruto's power.

At the bold that's not true. Sasuke didn't have to alter his fighting style beause of the curse mark it simply added more power, speed ect. to his performance in general. The kyuubi has a different effect that results in more extreme forms that dominate anything basic naruto was capable of on his own. Naruto's reliance was heavier based on his dependancy on kurama to win a fight

Dude without Curse Mark Sasuke would lose to Diedara, Orochimaru, and Ita(oh wait he lost CM lol). Sasuke depended HEAVILY on that for power. I cant believe you are ignoring this. Thats the SOLE reason he left. He was desperate for power and he obtained it.

Whereas Naruto didnt even have a handle on Kuruma because he was too evil (4tails). Without Kyuubi Naruto wouldnt be held back the way he is. He'd actually be War arc strong much faster.


Before he learned to control kyuubi power he only got victory with it against Haku(much needed), Neji, Pain doesnt count in my book because he was sealed anyway. Without Kyuubi Naruto Sage Mode would have been much stronger without it running out every 5 minutes. Hed be able to fuse with Ma and Pa.

 

[King Of Pop]

Whereas Naruto didnt even have a handle on Kuruma because he was too evil (4tails). Without Kyuubi Naruto wouldnt be held back the way he is. He'd actually be War arc strong much faster.

dat wank. stop. naruto without kurama would be nowhere near as strong with it. not sure why people keep saying kurama holds him when anytime he uses its power, naruto recieves speed, strength and ridiculous healing/recovery..sasuke impaled his lungs, yet he healed from it in secs, yea kurama certainly holds him back.

thats like me saying sasuke would be stronger without cs than with it because it drains his chakra.

 

[Greysama]

Sasuke using Itachis eyes =/= Sasukes techs being itachis power are u retarded :lol Sasuke himself said he also wanted the eyes to maximize his power. Inb4 scan of Sasuke saying he felt Itachi's power flowing through the eyes, that's just a misunderstanding beacuse None of the techniques he used in EMS belonged to Itachi but nice try tho. Next time know what you're talking about before you open your mouth and FRS is Naruto's jutsu while BD is Kurama's. He was only able to join the two because he incorporated Kurama's BD into the FRS and Fact is without Kurama he can't do shit at that level.

Wrong. MS Sasuke > SM Naruto in feats and stated by Naruto himself. Hebi Sasuke could arguably combat Naruto and even Summons using Genjutsu but even though it would be an interesting fight I'm sure Naruto would win but is ridiculous to even think of SM beating MS sasuke.

Prove it then

Bruh, you said that naruto's techniques are all kurama's when they're not, then you say sasuke's aren't itachis when Sasuke was said to have had all itachis techs transferred to him, bijuu Dama yes that's kurama the variations of any kind aren't him suck it up "Sasuke uses his own power" BS when he was sucking off ORO for power then got hagoromo' boost and JUUGOS senjutsu during the war he's as much ashura as naruto is your name says it all you got the hots for him

 

[shelke]

Truth and nothing but the truth, yo!

 

[Mori Jin]

A sentence for those who really think :
Sasuke had weaker power-ups than Naruto ; but it's still 4-1 .
Done here

Sasuke: I Lost

 

[Jokule67]

dat wank. stop. naruto without kurama would be nowhere near as strong with it. not sure why people keep saying kurama holds him when anytime he uses its power, naruto recieves speed, strength and ridiculous healing/recovery..sasuke impaled his lungs, yet he healed from it in secs, yea kurama certainly holds him back.

thats like me saying sasuke would be stronger without cs than with it because it drains his chakra.

When I say war arc I mean Sage Mode War Arc nothing else. No wank here man.

Kyuubi has held him back from completing his Sage Mode. Its supposed to be infinite with Ma&Pa continuisly absorbing Nature Energy. He was even last training to gather it while moving.

Also, with Kyuubi disturbing his chakra his control is messy, unpolished and crazy. He hardly maximizes on his chakras true potential. Without Kyuubi his chakra pool would be much higher because his chakra helps keep the fox in check. Kakashi and Yamato confirms this.

What I'm saying is Base Naruto would be more developed, refined, and Powerful. He'd reach War Arc level much faster because of his work ethic.

I know full well he wont get past Bijuu Sage Mode. Its the strongesr bijuu for goodness sakes.

 

[Yata Mirror]

Sasuke wasn't born with the Sharingan, he was born with eyes that can awaken the Sharingan.. and even use another's Sharingan..

Naruto wasn't born with Kurama, he was born with a body that can house Kurama..

They both used their genetics to their advantage.. stop being salty

 

[WalksInShadows]

with CS, Sasuke has spent literally every last second of 3 yrs and at least 3 straight arcs afterwards using a secondary power source. If that's not being dependent, idk what is

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